4 hours ago, bluetrooper said:

Right, transfer window is now shut, the club has decided that it would sell the Champions League-winning team to fund purchases. My reckoning is we only have Reece James left in the first team from that heady night... Chillwell is training with the reserves without a squad number. 

Now that there are no Champions League winners left to sell bar the two mentioned above, we're starting to cash in on the signings made when the new ownership took over.

Stirling is now halfway out of the club and we've sold two Champions League winners to the Arse... 

Just listing this here as anything that now happens to the club is laid firmly at the owners. Maresca has to deliver this season or things could go south quite quickly for the club. We've just witnesed a billion quid gamble.   

 

 

Shouldn't Sterling form part of that anything that happens now. Wasn't Sterling Boehly's first big coup?

1 hour ago, DrBlue said:

The Osimhen saga is a disgrace.  How the club and the player can be so far apart and continue on and on is ridiculous.  The communication between them must have been conducted between complete idiots.

Our SDs bargaining strategy 

13 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

Where are you getting that from?

Related party transactions are permitted in the rule. Only the 'fair market value' will count towards any reporting, though.

UEFA can't come out with a blanket judgement, without first assessing the Chelsea hotel deal. If they did- which is what Martyn Ziegler claims - then it would be prejudice, and would never hold up in CAS.

https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/news/football-finance-expert-explains-the-problem-chelsea-now-have-after-what-uefa-just-confirmed/

And multiple other sources.

1 hour ago, DrBlue said:

The Osimhen saga is a disgrace.  How the club and the player can be so far apart and continue on and on is ridiculous.  The communication between them must have been conducted between complete idiots.

How do you know what happened in the negotiations by the way? Surely you're not basing things on what the Twatterati were saying?

1 hour ago, DrBlue said:

The Osimhen saga is a disgrace.  How the club and the player can be so far apart and continue on and on is ridiculous.  The communication between them must have been conducted between complete idiots.

Osimhen wouldn't lower his wage demand. Simple.

2 minutes ago, dermott said:

Osimhen wouldn't lower his wage demand. Simple.

Yeah, and they were SO far off they should have moved on days and probably weeks ago.  If a negotiation is that far apart then it isn't worth spending any time on it and you need to move on to something else.

9 minutes ago, Gordon Bennett said:

How do you know what happened in the negotiations by the way? Surely you're not basing things on what the Twatterati were saying?

Fair comment.  There is always a chance there is some other story that comes out later.

At this point, it simply looks like the Osimhen team was not going to budge off of their basic level and Chelsea were never ever in that range, i.e. they were always FAR apart.  If that is true then it was ridiculous to continue to spend time negotiating.

Not sure how serious these guys about signing Osimhen. If they were, leaving it to the last day certainly didn't give us much leverage to work with. My guess is it's always a hopeful signing, just hope his Saudi deal collapse, and he has to accept the low ball offer. The same could be said about the fire sale, sure they got rid of Sterling for a year, but should have done a lot more before the deadline day.

1 minute ago, icecoolguy22 said:

Not sure how serious these guys about signing Osimhen. If they were, leaving it to the last day certainly didn't give us much leverage to work with. My guess is it's always a hopeful signing, just hope his Saudi deal collapse, and he has to accept the low ball offer. The same could be said about the fire sale, sure they got rid of Sterling for a year, but should have done a lot more before the deadline day.

Maybe it was Napoli / Osimhen holding out until the last day? Would certainly make sense waiting for the Saudi offer as it would give them both greater leverage in negotiations.

Chelsea also wanted a loan deal. Frankly, it's silly to say they wasted time on the negotiation. It wasn't to the detriment of other negotiations. As with all negotiations, you never know.

4 hours ago, hawkster said:

Well that was another fek up ,   arse are not paying a loan fee and less than half his wages .how the fek does that working our favour . Sancho in for some weird reason 

Chilly and Trev still here only bonus I can see is Lukaku is finally gone ..clowns

 

Sry to upset you mate but Trev has gone on loan too.

Ggggrrrrr...I was hoping the owners concede we couldn't sell him and he joins up again with the first squad. But ugh, disaster brothers and tosspot as backup instead.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Gentian said:

Signing Sanchez makes sense from business point of view as he is still young and has alot to prove £25mill is a bargain if he delivers.
My guess is that Mudryk and Madueke will be gone as early as January. Mudryk because he has being very poor and i see very little game time for him now that we have Neto and Felix and Madueke will probably be sold for profit and Sanchez will take his place on the right. 
So, it will take one or two more windows to make this right because i do believe that disasi and badiashile will be gone too at some point. 
I am optimistic because clearly the owners are willing to spend money to improve this team rather than just hiring and firing managers.

I don't think they'll sell Noni in january, not until they guarantee top dollar! He's jumped up 20-30mil just with the wolves game. I say the summer will be the earliest depending how Neto, felix, george, sancho, etc get on.

Edited August 31, 20241 yr by Simplymo

1 hour ago, dermott said:

Osimhen wouldn't lower his wage demand. Simple.

Think he'd have done it in the end, but Chelsea's offer was simply a disgrace.

He is on 11M per year guaranteed at Napoli. To offer him 4M per year plus another 4M in add-ons is like taking the absolute piss.

If a bigger company than the one I'm at would offer me a job saying how great I am and how much they'd like to sign me, but I need to reduce my salary by around 60%, I'd tell them to f**k right off and forget I even exist in this universe.

I know there is a new wage structure at Chelsea, but unless you find the next big thing on the cheap, you are never going to sign the likes of Haaland, Osimhen, Kane, Lewandowski by offering those wages. That's Calvert-Lewin at Everton type of wages...

1 hour ago, Gordon Bennett said:

Maybe it was Napoli / Osimhen holding out until the last day? Would certainly make sense waiting for the Saudi offer as it would give them both greater leverage in negotiations.

That's a possiblity. But as a buyer, if these SD and owners are serious about getting a better striker, leaving it to the last day and betting on the other side running out of options is certainly not very sincere or serious. Maybe they will try again and Osimhen maybe a lot more accommodating, or he will may take other options and never deal with CFC again. We may have dodged a bullet, but we all know the current quality of the  strikers at disposal.

56 minutes ago, dermott said:

Chelsea also wanted a loan deal. Frankly, it's silly to say they wasted time on the negotiation. It wasn't to the detriment of other negotiations. As with all negotiations, you never know.

It's almost like they were negotiating during the negotiations...which apparently is now the wrong thing to do according to some fans...

The transfer strategy of the owners and sporting directors. If you don't laugh, you will cry.

It’s Always Sunny at Stamford Bridge ! 

8 hours ago, I am a CPA said:

Massive, massive overreactions in here.

Lay the blame at Sterling for not being good enough at all for the past 2 years.

Lay the blame at Chilly for not being able to keep fit and for being happy not to play football anymore.

Lay the blame at the premier league for making it so that academy players sold are pure profit.

Lay the blame at Badiashile for being amazing for 6 months and then looking like a sunday league player from then on.

Lay the blame at Chuk for not being able to keep fit at all.

Lay the blame at Marina for leaving an old, unathletic team for the new owners to clean up.

Have there been some bad signings? Yeah, but what club doesn't do that?

Oh right, so we're OK and the club is doing everything right and the team is much better than it used to be , and our transfer policy is perfect.

5 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Shouldn't Sterling form part of that anything that happens now. Wasn't Sterling Boehly's first big coup?

True.

He was our ' marquee ' signing !

5 hours ago, dermott said:

https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/news/football-finance-expert-explains-the-problem-chelsea-now-have-after-what-uefa-just-confirmed/

And multiple other sources.

The author of that article may consider himself to be an expert but he just simply hasn’t got a clue as to what the PSR/FFP submissions are or what concessions were granted as a consequence of the sanctions.

UEFA don’t treat the excesses  by way of points deduction ( albeit the have lower thresholds) meaning if we have broken the limits the likelihood is that we would be subjected to a fine based on a% of the EL Conference prize money and possibly a squad restruction

Ironically by my back of a fag calculations the 24/25 window has worked out well in terms of  impact on squad costs. 

What I hear you say well here’s some numbers to boggle the mind

1) Players who left will have resulted in player trading profit of around €144 million with wages saved of around €1.8 million a week ( I have only assumed that we are saying €150k a week re Sterling) and some €35 million Pa off the annual amortisation charge. 
 So squad costs reduce by some €135 million per annum .

But

2) Players we signed will be costing around € 900 k a week or €46.8 million Pa and amortisation will grow by around € 60 million Pa . 
So  the squad savings I mention above reduce to circa €30 million Pa 

But I haven’t included in 1 ) fees in respect of players like Anjorin which I reckon are around €15 million. Fees for loans or indeed extra sums we have received as part of the deals for players we sold in the past. Players like Gilmour.

 

 

Edited August 31, 20241 yr by terraloon

6 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

Shouldn't Sterling form part of that anything that happens now. Wasn't Sterling Boehly's first big coup?

Stirling is dead to me. The fact he's still costing us money is ludicrus. He failed and has been moved on. Shame we cant say the same with our owners. 

On 26/08/2024 at 00:41, SydneyChelsea said:

PSR was introduced in 2013. The 'concerns' that have been reported just have very tenuous links to transfers. 

Agree 100% with that . 

 

Did Richard Masters say the investigation into our self reported issues would be over soon and our punishment handed out quickly?

Get on with it then.

Bit negative in here regards the owners.

They’re trying to implement something completely different to what the club, and for that matter the sport, are used to. Is it going to work? I think we’ll be able to judge by the end of this season (If we qualify for CL) and certainly next (Title Challenge)

Signings/Outgoings wise it’s been a mixed bag from the start (take away that first window that was quickfire) For every Sterling there’s been a Palmer. I suppose if you look at the ‘core’ of the team they’re trying to build there’s something to go for. 
 

I get it’s easy to go full ‘Yanks Out’ mode but other than fluffing signing a proper striker for 4/5 windows and a change of manager constantly changing the role of a Goalkeeper the squad is getting there. 

8 hours ago, dermott said:

Osimhen wouldn't lower his wage demand. Simple.

That and his agent wanted a fat agent fee, hence the back and forth of making the deal permanent. 
 

This all goes back to him signing that extension in January mind you when it was clear he wanted to leave. Now he’s either going to waste half a season training with the U21s or fading into obscurity at Saudi despite his agent publicly saying he’s too good for that league. 
 

Horribly, horribly advised. 

5 hours ago, terraloon said:

The author of that article may consider himself to be an expert but he just simply hasn’t got a clue as to what the PSR/FFP submissions are or what concessions were granted as a consequence of the sanctions.

UEFA don’t treat the excesses  by way of points deduction ( albeit the have lower thresholds) meaning if we have broken the limits the likelihood is that we would be subjected to a fine based on a% of the EL Conference prize money and possibly a squad restruction

Ironically by my back of a fag calculations the 24/25 window has worked out well in terms of  impact on squad costs. 

What I hear you say well here’s some numbers to boggle the mind

1) Players who left will have resulted in player trading profit of around €144 million with wages saved of around €1.8 million a week ( I have only assumed that we are saying €150k a week re Sterling) and some €35 million Pa off the annual amortisation charge. 
 So squad costs reduce by some €135 million per annum .

But

2) Players we signed will be costing around € 900 k a week or €46.8 million Pa and amortisation will grow by around € 60 million Pa . 
So  the squad savings I mention above reduce to circa €30 million Pa 

But I haven’t included in 1 ) fees in respect of players like Anjorin which I reckon are around €15 million. Fees for loans or indeed extra sums we have received as part of the deals for players we sold in the past. Players like Gilmour.

 

 

Agent fees must be quite large I would have thought?

If amortisation is set increase by 60m euros pa that's going to be an annual cost of around £240m a year isn't it?.