5 hours ago, Bob stark said:

It is very easy to recommended Haaland, Bellingham, and Rice. Even a fan like me could see their talent (not Caicedo, I have never watched him before Brighton). They are already playing at high level in PL or cl already. 

The hard part is to recommend signing player like Palmer and the even harder part is meeting your manager demand. 

 

As stated above, all three of them during that time were relatively at the very early stages of their career. Haaland breaking through at Salzburg, Rice who was alternating at CB at West Ham, and Bellingham at Birmingham. Doubt anyone would've predicted the heights they'd reach at the time. 

2 hours ago, dermott said:

It's one thing identifying talent, another thing to both man-manage and have tactical nouse. Has much in common with S. Gerrard apart from the talent identifying.

Agreed. Management isn't for him. 

14 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

As stated above, all three of them during that time were relatively at the very early stages of their career. Haaland breaking through at Salzburg, Rice who was alternating at CB at West Ham, and Bellingham at Birmingham. Doubt anyone would've predicted the heights they'd reach at the time. 

Agreed. Management isn't for him. 

Everyone wanted Bellingham when he was with Birmingham, same with Haaland. Both picked Dortmund because both knew they will play tons in Dortmund and Germany is a much better league for young player. Less pressure and the level of physicality is far less. 

Rice was already very good for a long time, but west ham never wanted to sell, they wanted 100 m when we signed kai/werner which is why we didn't get him. 

7 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Everyone wanted Bellingham when he was with Birmingham, same with Haaland. Both picked Dortmund because both knew they will play tons in Dortmund and Germany is a much better league for young player. Less pressure and the level of physicality is far less. 

Rice was already very good for a long time, but west ham never wanted to sell, they wanted 100 m when we signed kai/werner which is why we didn't get him. 

And they knew Dortmund was a selling club, a stepping stone.

Give Lampard Cech’s old job. Been screaming this for ages. 
 

 

2 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Give Lampard Cech’s old job. Been screaming this for ages. 
 

 

He already helped the owners out once, why not do so again in a role better suited to his talents.

Get James Corden to put a word in again! f**king Circus!

I've been begging for Joe Wilkinson to get the DOF role for ages.

1 hour ago, ross91690 said:

I've been begging for Joe Wilkinson to get the DOF role for ages.

Sign of the Twine

4 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Quote

Rio Ferdinand on Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard Debate (Obi-Wan Podcast) :

"The one I enjoyed playing most with was Scholes. He could dictate a game, he could decide a game, and he got other people playing better. He was a genius, but if I was a manager for a season, i'm picking Lampard."

 

 

 

Seems Lamps has been appointed Coventry coach - wish him all the best.

Hope he does well there and kicks-on again. If he fails, that will probably be his last appointment. Looks like Adi Viveash has left Coventry which is a shame as he's always done so well with the youngsters. I expect Joe Edwards will join Lamps.

 

'Now or never for Lampard - the stakes are high at Coventry'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4gxn3150y2o

Strange, I always thought Lampard would go to the top in management. Very intellectual, knows the game, appears to be well liked. 
 

Suppose it shows just how elite top football actually is. There’s something that marks elite managers out from good/average managers. I’m not entirely sure what it is but there’s something different. 

1 hour ago, JM7 said:

Strange, I always thought Lampard would go to the top in management. Very intellectual, knows the game, appears to be well liked. 
 

Suppose it shows just how elite top football actually is. There’s something that marks elite managers out from good/average managers. I’m not entirely sure what it is but there’s something different. 

I think him taking the Chelsea job so early didn't help. 

Had a good first season at Chelsea, but the job was clearly too big for him, the signs were all there. Once he was at Chelsea it's hard to dip back down into the lower leagues again, I saw the Everton sacking coming a mile off, he's just not ready for those jobs. 

Hope it goes well for him. I would love to see Frank succeed in management.

If it doesn't work out for him this time around we should 100% look to bring him back into the club in some capacity.

Something similar to what Cech used to do with us. Clearly a very intelligent bloke and some of the players he's identified in the past have gone on to have ridiculous trajectories. Elite talent ID. 

10 hours ago, JM7 said:

 

Suppose it shows just how elite top football actually is. There’s something that marks elite managers out from good/average managers. I’m not entirely sure what it is but there’s something different. 

This bit...He's still early into his career but I agree. A lot of work/experirnce needed to be done to become elite. I just hope he understands its different front being a player. He needs to soak up knowledge and not think or act like he's the finished article yet.

20 hours ago, JM7 said:

Strange, I always thought Lampard would go to the top in management. Very intellectual, knows the game, appears to be well liked. 
 

Suppose it shows just how elite top football actually is. There’s something that marks elite managers out from good/average managers. I’m not entirely sure what it is but there’s something different. 

I think it's called having elite players who can stay fit !

That, and taking a job when a club is on the up, and the rivals are in decline. Good timing basically ... 

On 29/11/2024 at 06:23, JM7 said:

Strange, I always thought Lampard would go to the top in management. Very intellectual, knows the game, appears to be well liked. 
 

Suppose it shows just how elite top football actually is. There’s something that marks elite managers out from good/average managers. I’m not entirely sure what it is but there’s something different. 

As @Sexyfootball said, the most important thing by far to become elite manager is to have elite player because the gap between elite manager to good manager is so much smaller compare to elite player vs good player

 

Edited November 30, 20241 yr by Bob stark

FA Cup 3rd round home tie against Coventry please. Never get bored of singing Sir Lampard's name. 

On 28/11/2024 at 22:23, JM7 said:

Strange, I always thought Lampard would go to the top in management. Very intellectual, knows the game, appears to be well liked. 
 

Suppose it shows just how elite top football actually is. There’s something that marks elite managers out from good/average managers. I’m not entirely sure what it is but there’s something different. 

At no point did I think he would go to the top and the fact he is still getting jobs is a mystery.

 

I am interested to see how well he does at Coventry, for me the verdict is still out on his abilities as a manager.

1 hour ago, strider6004 said:

I am interested to see how well he does at Coventry, for me the verdict is still out on his abilities as a manager.

I'd love to be wrong but I think he should have held his hands up like Neville did.

His whole selling point back at Derby and the early Chelsea time was that he'll grow and stop making constant rookie mistakes but if anything he's making more.