I don't see a problem with the 5 subs rule, they are using that rule in Bundesliga right now and I think if Serie A continues they will have it as well.

I'm a bit afraid of our own team that lacks some experience though, I wouldn't want us to lose the 4th position due to the overall strange conditions. Obviously it would be the same for every club but we depended mostly on Tammy,Mount and Pulisic to either score or create goals this season and if they find it hard to adapt due to these unusual conditions someone else would need to save the team from losing the top 4 position. I would trust in Willian and Jorginho to rally the team towards a few wins if our younger players would start to struggle. But I do trust our team overall and Frankie as well, if anyone were to know how to fully take the advantage of the 5 sub rule it's our own Frankie.

Edited June 6, 20206 yr by Gol15

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

 

We've seem to have rolled out Operation Confusion by not restricting ourselves to fielding only one squad number 16 

Artificial crowd noise available to UK viewers after use in Bundesliga - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52950715

4 hours ago, Boyne said:

Artificial crowd noise available to UK viewers after use in Bundesliga - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52950715

It works very well, tuned into Levekusen/Munich after about 10 minutes and forgot there was no crowd until they zoomed to the subs sat around empty seats.

Edited June 7, 20206 yr by Argo

Very interesting that Leagues One and Two have now drawn a line under the season, and decided the table positions and ups/downs based on average points ...

2 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Very interesting that Leagues One and Two have now drawn a line under the season, and decided the table positions and ups/downs based on average points ...

That how our women's team clinched the title 

So that's the women's leage and men's leagues 1 and 2 ended. Noooooo, the Premiership restarting has nothing to do with big money at all.

I don’t understand the virus testing for the PL. Surely, if 1 player tests positive (which 1 player did this week), then the whole squad needs to go into quarantine for 14 days or be retested to make sure they haven’t got it? Doesn’t make sense.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53005324

Players and coaching staff will not be required to wear masks at stadiums when the Premier League restarts.

Players will be encouraged not to spit or clear their noses and not to break social distancing during goal celebrations.

There will be no ball boys or girls - a system of sterilised replacement balls will be used.

Aston Villa v Sheffield United will be the first game when the league returns on 17 June.

In Germany's Bundesliga players and staff have been required to wear masks at all times, except for during play.

In the Premier League they will not have to wear masks at all, even in the changing room or on the bench, although the fourth official as well as doctors and physios will have to.

On Thursday the Premier League announced there will be a minute's silence to remember those who have died with coronavirus before the first matches.

Heart-shaped badges in tribute to frontline NHS staff will also be worn on kits.

Clubs agreed to a range of medical and operational protocols for the restart of the season at a meeting on Thursday.

There will be strict limits on those allowed into stadiums on matchdays and grounds will be split into zones, including the tunnel and pitchside.

In total only 300 people will be in each stadium, with no more than 110 in the 'red zone' including players, club staff and officials.

There will be deep cleaning of corner flags, goalposts, substitution boards and match balls before and after each fixture.

Some extra disinfection, such as of the substitution board after it is used, is likely to take place during matches and at half-time, while other work will be carried out during drinks breaks if they are permitted by the league.

The medical protocols stipulate how squads and coaching staff must travel to and from games, observing social distancing.

Clubs will be encouraged to fly on longer away trips to limit use of hotels, and every player and coach will be temperature checked before they arrive at the stadium.

Players will have to hand sanitise when they enter and leave the field of play.

Meanwhile, players are working with the Premier League on a Black Lives Matter tribute but details are yet to be finalised.

38 minutes ago, Boyne said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53005324

Players and coaching staff will not be required to wear masks at stadiums when the Premier League restarts.

 

 

Players will be encouraged not to spit or clear their noses and not to break social distancing during goal celebrations.

 

 

There will be no ball boys or girls - a system of sterilised replacement balls will be used.

Aston Villa v Sheffield United will be the first game when the league returns on 17 June.

In Germany's Bundesliga players and staff have been required to wear masks at all times, except for during play.

In the Premier League they will not have to wear masks at all, even in the changing room or on the bench, although the fourth official as well as doctors and physios will have to.

On Thursday the Premier League announced there will be a minute's silence to remember those who have died with coronavirus before the first matches.

Heart-shaped badges in tribute to frontline NHS staff will also be worn on kits.

Clubs agreed to a range of medical and operational protocols for the restart of the season at a meeting on Thursday.

There will be strict limits on those allowed into stadiums on matchdays and grounds will be split into zones, including the tunnel and pitchside.

In total only 300 people will be in each stadium, with no more than 110 in the 'red zone' including players, club staff and officials.

There will be deep cleaning of corner flags, goalposts, substitution boards and match balls before and after each fixture.

Some extra disinfection, such as of the substitution board after it is used, is likely to take place during matches and at half-time, while other work will be carried out during drinks breaks if they are permitted by the league.

The medical protocols stipulate how squads and coaching staff must travel to and from games, observing social distancing.

Clubs will be encouraged to fly on longer away trips to limit use of hotels, and every player and coach will be temperature checked before they arrive at the stadium.

Players will have to hand sanitise when they enter and leave the field of play.

Meanwhile, players are working with the Premier League on a Black Lives Matter tribute but details are yet to be finalised.

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f**k me, is all this bollox really worth it, just for a game of football, I'm quite happy to wait until things are more normal. 

3 minutes ago, chi blue said:

f**k me, is all this bollox really worth it, just for a game of football, I'm quite happy to wait until things are more normal. 

Agree, I can see footballers forgetting about not spitting and clearing their noses. Like you, I'm happy to wait until things are more normal. The other day I applied for a refund on this season's ST. Did you apply for a refund. It will be interesting to see how many ST holders asked for a refund; how many use the money as a credit against next season; and how many gave the money to one of the club's charities. I did, briefly, think about using the money against next season's ST but decided not to as goodness knows when we'll be allowed back in to the ground.

9 hours ago, Boyne said:

Agree, I can see footballers forgetting about not spitting and clearing their noses. Like you, I'm happy to wait until things are more normal. The other day I applied for a refund on this season's ST. Did you apply for a refund. It will be interesting to see how many ST holders asked for a refund; how many use the money as a credit against next season; and how many gave the money to one of the club's charities. I did, briefly, think about using the money against next season's ST but decided not to as goodness knows when we'll be allowed back in to the ground.

I decided on a credit, mainly because I couldn't be bothered to faff about on our website to get three lots of refunds, but i still might decide to get refund. The way the government seem to change things once people put pressure on them, I think social distancing will soon come down to 1 metre, to help economy. In August pressure will then mount by league 1,2 and championship clubs to allow some fans in or they won't survive, which will lead to premiership clubs allowing fans in. My view has changed In last few weeks and I reckon by Christmas grounds will be possibly 60% capacity, Chelsea for instance season ticket holders only and no away fans. 

 

2 hours ago, chi blue said:

I decided on a credit, mainly because I couldn't be bothered to faff about on our website to get three lots of refunds, but i still might decide to get refund. The way the government seem to change things once people put pressure on them, I think social distancing will soon come down to 1 metre, to help economy. In August pressure will then mount by league 1,2 and championship clubs to allow some fans in or they won't survive, which will lead to premiership clubs allowing fans in. My view has changed In last few weeks and I reckon by Christmas grounds will be possibly 60% capacity, Chelsea for instance season ticket holders only and no away fans. 

It was the first time I'd used the ticket exchange when I applied for the refund. I then received an email from the club asking for either a bank statement or voided cheque. I don't know if that is standard for using the ticket exchange. Most of the people I go to the games with have applied for refunds.

It will be interesting to see when grounds re-open and as you say may only be for season ticket holders. I wonder if people (unless they come those they live with) are moved around to allow for social distancing. Would be a nightmare to administer. Also wonder if the bars, kiosks and shop will stay closed to allow for social distancing.

So many businesses etc asking for a drop of distancing to one metre. It will be interesting to see what happens after the opening of shops on Monday.

Any update on the hair cut?!

CL is planned to be back. Do we have a chance?? [emoji16]

2 hours ago, evissy said:

CL is planned to be back. Do we have a chance??

Absolutely 

Hopefully the merchandise designers make one "double" coffee mug when we also win the FA Cup. Unlike the Spurs' trophy cabinet, room in my kitchen cupboard is at a premium 

3 hours ago, evissy said:

CL is planned to be back. Do we have a chance??

I don’t get how this is going to work. Players will have changed clubs, can a player that played for team A play for them despite playing for team B? If not then as an example we’ll lose Willian, Pedro and any other players we move on meaning we’d have a reduced squad. 
 

The new season will presumably started by then so do CL teams just piss off from their domestic leagues for a few weeks? That’ll cause even more congestion in an already congested season. 
 

Do they keep the 1st leg results already played months ago? If so is there any point in going? We’re 3-0 down against a very strong side. We’ve done it before but I don’t think it’ll happen again. 
 

Just knock it on the head!

28 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

I don’t get how this is going to work. Players will have changed clubs, can a player that played for team A play for them despite playing for team B? If not then as an example we’ll lose Willian, Pedro and any other players we move on meaning we’d have a reduced squad. 
 

The new season will presumably started by then so do CL teams just piss off from their domestic leagues for a few weeks? That’ll cause even more congestion in an already congested season. 
 

Do they keep the 1st leg results already played months ago? If so is there any point in going? We’re 3-0 down against a very strong side. We’ve done it before but I don’t think it’ll happen again. 
 

Just knock it on the head!

Totally agree i had a look at how they think it will work a few days ago. It looks like we will still have to go to Germany for the second leg then then the rest of the competition is played in Portugal.

Teams could seriously be weakened with transfers by this stage. Our final game is on the 26th July and if we get to the FA cup final its on the 1st August then the champions league starts again on the 7-8 August.  

I know the players have been off a few months but your basically asking players to play for two year with only a few weeks off due to the euros in 2021. 

9 minutes ago, Belfast_blue5 said:

Totally agree i had a look at how they think it will work a few days ago. It looks like we will still have to go to Germany for the second leg then then the rest of the competition is played in Portugal.

Teams could seriously be weakened with transfers by this stage. Our final game is on the 26th July and if we get to the FA cup final its on the 1st August then the champions league starts again on the 7-8 August.  

I know the players have been off a few months but your basically asking players to play for two year with only a few weeks off due to the euros in 2021. 

Don’t forget the World Cup is the year after that and completely f**king up the European seasons. 

4 hours ago, evissy said:

CL is planned to be back. Do we have a chance??

The annoying thing is if it was 2-0 I reckon we would have. With the Bundi ending about a month before the CL is back while the PL season ending and the restart of the CL being pretty much coming off the back of the PL ending we will have a massive advantage with match fitness. Same if we somehow pull this off and get Leipzig or Paris in the quarters.

3-0 will probably be too big a mountain even with said advantage unfortunately. 

On 12/06/2020 at 10:48, Boyne said:

It was the first time I'd used the ticket exchange when I applied for the refund. I then received an email from the club asking for either a bank statement or voided cheque. I don't know if that is standard for using the ticket exchange. Most of the people I go to the games with have applied for refunds.

It will be interesting to see when grounds re-open and as you say may only be for season ticket holders. I wonder if people (unless they come those they live with) are moved around to allow for social distancing. Would be a nightmare to administer. Also wonder if the bars, kiosks and shop will stay closed to allow for social distancing.

So many businesses etc asking for a drop of distancing to one metre. It will be interesting to see what happens after the opening of shops on Monday.

Any update on the hair cut?!

Haircut all done mate, he must of had barbers frustration syndrome, as went for it in a big way, within half an hour I went from Noddy Holder to Jimmy Somerville!!! I wasn't impressed. I reckon bars and kiosks will be closed, social distancing definitely will be 1 metre by 4th July. Reckon limited crowds by September rising slowly through the weeks.

General consensus on teh radio this morning was that if you reduce the distancing from 2 metres to 1 you increase the chances of catching the virus between 4 and 10 times.  Also the time needed in that sort of proximity to catch the virus drops from 2 minutes to 6 seconds.

 

Scary as f**k if the government are considering this just so we can all go to the pub and forget about how badly it's all been handled and how sh*ttier it's going to get as they force through their crash-out brexit madness.

8 minutes ago, yorkleyblue said:

General consensus on teh radio this morning was that if you reduce the distancing from 2 metres to 1 you increase the chances of catching the virus between 4 and 10 times.  Also the time needed in that sort of proximity to catch the virus drops from 2 minutes to 6 seconds.

 

Scary as f**k if the government are considering this just so we can all go to the pub and forget about how badly it's all been handled and how sh*ttier it's going to get as they force through their crash-out brexit madness.

Out of curiosity: what's the latest on available tests and access to those tests in the UK? I think I read somewhere that's the number of tests required on a weekle basis to get the Premiership rolling again. Please don't tell me care workers and others of at-risk groups still have a fight on their hands getting tested regularly.

1 hour ago, yorkleyblue said:

General consensus on teh radio this morning was that if you reduce the distancing from 2 metres to 1 you increase the chances of catching the virus between 4 and 10 times.  Also the time needed in that sort of proximity to catch the virus drops from 2 minutes to 6 seconds.

 

Scary as f**k if the government are considering this just so we can all go to the pub and forget about how badly it's all been handled and how sh*ttier it's going to get as they force through their crash-out brexit madness.

I saw it being reported like this:

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Is it safe to reduce the distance?

A recent Lancet study commissioned by the World Health Organization found that the chance of transmitting or becoming infected by the virus, with no other protection in place such as a face mask, fell dramatically with distance. At 1 metre, the risk was 12.8% but this dropped to 2.6% at 1.5 metres and to about 1.3% at 2 metres.

I don't know what the percentages mean exactly, because the infection risk will obviously depend on a lot of other things (exposure time, indoors vs. outdoors, etc) but you can probably use it to get an idea of the relative risk of the different distances. From this it appears there's a significant benefit from increasing the distance from 1 to 1.5 metres, but a much smaller benefit if it's increased further from 1.5 to 2 metres. So 1.5 metres would seem to be a sensible compromise between safety and Wetherspoons-friendliness. Not that this lot have a record of doing anything sensibly.

OK, @Valerie,  I won't tell you.

That was a lie.  (See, I could be a Tory after all!)

There are nowhere near enough tests being carried out, our wonderful government are counting a nose test, a throat swab and an immunity test on the same person as three test, they count postal tests as having been carried out when they are dispatched. not when they have been returned and tested and STILL they are falling short of the numbers they promised us weeks ago.

Care homes and essential service workers are NOT being tested routinely and only if you have symptoms can a normal citizen ask for a test, upon which you mostly have to travel to a drive-through testing centre, sometimes up to 100 miles or more away from your home.

No-one but politicians, football players and other sports people and those who can afford to pay privately are getting regular tests.  And we still aren't testing people arriving at the airports and ferry ports, not implementing quarantine in any regulated way. and keep on encouraging the common-sense filled great british public to push further and further against the restrictions that should be keeping us safe purely to carry on the madness of brexit.

I wonder how many of the johnson-supporting members we have in here were up in London at the weekend, throwing bottles of piss at the police and pissing on memorials to murdered policemen. My money is on at least two that I can think of.

Edited June 16, 20206 yr by yorkleyblue

46 minutes ago, bluedave said:

I saw it being reported like this:

I don't know what the percentages mean exactly, because the infection risk will obviously depend on a lot of other things (exposure time, indoors vs. outdoors, etc) but you can probably use it to get an idea of the relative risk of the different distances. From this it appears there's a significant benefit from increasing the distance from 1 to 1.5 metres, but a much smaller benefit if it's increased further from 1.5 to 2 metres. So 1.5 metres would seem to be a sensible compromise between safety and Wetherspoons-friendliness. Not that this lot have a record of doing anything sensibly.

So 1.3% chance of infection at 2 metres as opposed to 12.8% at 1 metre.  Very nearly 10 times more likely then.  At 1.5 metres you double your chances of infection.  I know what distance I am keeping from everyone and will continue until I'm convinced that it's safe. 

Did you see the utter f**king cretins on Monday morning trying to batter their way into the Nike shop on Oxford Street, because their inviolable human rights to buy a new pair of trainers meant that their own and other people's lives didn't matter?