Ultimately, if Gallageher is on a low wage, why wouldnt he leave abroad to earn potentially double or triple if he runs down his contract with us and Atletico, not a wealthy club, cant afford what he's asking... I wouldnt have a problem with that as we'd get to see him for a final year, think he'll be better than last? who knows. Perhaps in that year they could figure something out. 

 

18 minutes ago, Argo said:

I guess we'll find out soon but I'd put good money on their goodbye posts/videos being significantly closer to Silvas level than Mounts.

Mount was supported through a drastic decline in ways I've only seen done to the same extent with Mourinho (in 15/16), he absolutely should have done better when it came to the fans.

Silva’s and Azpi’s goodbyes were heartfelt, they loved the club! There is also a case to be argued that Silva was gently pushed out by the end there though too!

Mason didn’t get supported at all, they turned their back on him for the ££££! It’s then made very easy to switch off that love for the club when you are no longer wanted around! What is he going to do, mope around and train with the reserves refusing to leave!

He got a transfer to a big club and a long NDA to sign from Chelsea!

I think all options are on the table until transfer deadline day. If he decided not to be another pure profit and join Villa, then good on him, ultimately he has the final say on his career. I'm sure he's professional enough to put all on the field even he's leaving in 12 months time.

The way this has been handled, I’d have no issue with him running his contract down and leaving on a free.

It will be very difficult for him to have a future at the club now. Doesn’t matter who the manager is either as seen with Poch.

I reckon Gallagher was identified in some corporate meeting as someone who should be sold by the bean counters. It’s seems they forgot to communicate this with Gallagher. You couldn’t make it up.

 

13 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Think we need to wait and see how this plays out. We don't know what Villa offered him nor do we know what Atletico will offer him. Gallagher clearly wants long term commitment here, or the biggest deal elsewhere. All power to him. 

Gallagher getting a 2+1 year extension whilst earning the same amount of money as Caicedo + Enzo has him among our top earners until he enters his prime years. I wouldn't necessarily consider that "forcing him out" which has been the notion this entire year. I'd go as far as saying the club are doing their part for a player the sporting directors don't even rate. Protecting his value whilst paying him what he deserves in terms of contribution. 

 

But Caicedo and Enzo are on 7 year contracts.

1 hour ago, TheCeleryKing said:

But Caicedo and Enzo are on 7 year contracts.

That’s more to do with amortisation of their enormous transfer fees than utter belief in their ability.

 

Maybe I’ve had a few too many tonight but I’m on team Conor 100% here. Seems like blueco is taking the same smear campaign approach thy did with mount but its gonna be a tough sell. Conor and his whole family have been true blue since before he was even in the academy, so to try and fool us into thinking he’s gonna do wrong by the club is risky at best and disingenuous at mid and really dumb at worst.

 

the kid has truly loved chels through and through and this is actually shameful, whether he is good enough or not is inconsequential. He was on the chopping block all last year, and what did he do, stayed fit and captained us from 11th to 6th, that is a fact. 
 

if he, as truly one of the last remnants of what Chelsea was. Wants to run his contract down to get a £15m signing bonus at Atlético next summer, instead of letting these twat SDs reap £30m profit. Good for him. I hope this is a wake up call to the powers that be to stop treating our club like a f**king software company that they just rolled into their portfolio and finding profit through cutting existing resources.

ive worked a decade in PE and hoped against hope it would be different in the sporting space but nope.

 

3 hours ago, 19seventyone said:

That’s more to do with amortisation of their enormous transfer fees than utter belief in their ability.

 

That doesn't matter, it still brings them a level of financial security and a different bargaining position themselves.

12 hours ago, Mod said:

Silva’s and Azpi’s goodbyes were heartfelt, they loved the club! There is also a case to be argued that Silva was gently pushed out by the end there though too!

Mason didn’t get supported at all, they turned their back on him for the ££££! It’s then made very easy to switch off that love for the club when you are no longer wanted around! What is he going to do, mope around and train with the reserves refusing to leave!

He got a transfer to a big club and a long NDA to sign from Chelsea!

He can still at the very least show respect for the fans that supported him through let's be honest 18 months of largely crap form.

Mata was forced out by Jose, went to the very same club yet did a heartfelt goodbye. So even if Mount was forced out and him taking the same route David Beckham did was some massive coincidence, there's no excuse for the utter contempt he shown the fans, absolutely none.

18 minutes ago, Argo said:

He can still at the very least show respect for the fans that supported him through let's be honest 18 months of largely crap form.

Mata was forced out by Jose, went to the very same club yet did a heartfelt goodbye. So even if Mount was forced out and him taking the same route David Beckham did was some massive coincidence, there's no excuse for the utter contempt he shown the fans, absolutely none.

Mata was very very different (still love that guy), it was very quick and he had no beef with the board that was drawn out for months! It was a very different era!

What contempt has Mason shown the fans? Joined one of the biggest clubs in the world cause he was forced out of our club by clowns! He knew we were not going to be happy but his hands were tied and can’t say anything about the situation! 

I also don’t remember Mata’s video being on the same light as Silva’s, Dave’s, Drogba’s, etc! In fact, why don’t we pull up Masons, Mata’s and Lampard’s goodbye videos and see whose lips are quivering more! 👀

24 minutes ago, Mod said:

Mata was very very different (still love that guy), it was very quick and he had no beef with the board that was drawn out for months! It was a very different era!

What contempt has Mason shown the fans? Joined one of the biggest clubs in the world cause he was forced out of our club by clowns! He knew we were not going to be happy but his hands were tied and can’t say anything about the situation! 

I also don’t remember Mata’s video being on the same light as Silva’s, Dave’s, Drogba’s, etc! In fact, why don’t we pull up Masons, Mata’s and Lampard’s goodbye videos and see whose lips are quivering more! 👀

He was cheered on and unconditionally supported (especially at games) through over a year of poor form and he repaid them with an ISIS style goodbye prerecorded months in advance.

This was Mata’s message.

https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/1/25/5345482/juan-mata-opens-up-in-emotional-goodbye-letter-to-chelsea-fans#:~:text=I will always feel the gratitude towards you.&text=Every message I got through,with so many fantastic players.

Not sure why he couldn't have done something similar for people that unconditionally supported him, I'm surprised Caroline McAteer (the head of the company he joined) didn't tell him as much, or maybe she did and he didn't care.

Edited August 2, 20241 yr by Argo

11 hours ago, TheCeleryKing said:

But Caicedo and Enzo are on 7 year contracts.

@19seventyone has already mentioned the amortization aspect but I think we need to consider the wages involved vs the actual length of the contract. 

A vast majority of fans on this forum saw Gallagher at best a utility option for a top level club. Not a week in/week out starter, but a player that every title winning club has. The workhorses. (Park, Milner, Ramires, Henderson, etc). Now it's no secret that ownership want to lower the wage bill, especially on the bench. It's the very reason they are open to selling Chilwell, Cucurella, Sterling, etc. Caicedo and Enzo are seen as integral players for the starting XI. If reports are to be true, Gallagher has been pushing to be paid just as much as them and on a long term deal. He want's starter money wages despite being a rotation option. 

My question is, would the club have granted him a long term deal earning wages akin to Colwill? £100kpw. 

3 minutes ago, Argo said:

He was cheered on and unconditionally supported (especially at games) through over a year of poor form and he repaid them with an ISIS style goodbye prerecorded months in advance.

This was Mata’s

https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/1/25/5345482/juan-mata-opens-up-in-emotional-goodbye-letter-to-chelsea-fans#:~:text=I will always feel the gratitude towards you.&text=Every message I got through,with so many fantastic players.

Not sure why he couldn't have done something similar for people that unconditionally supported him, I'm surprised Caroline McAteer (the head of the company he joined) didn't tell him as much, or maybe she did and he didn't care.

So Mata didn't even record a video and had someone else probably write a letter on his behalf! Whats the debate then? Timo also did the same!

I also wouldn't say Mason's video was months in advance, maybe a week or two at most as the bleached hair was already in the video!

Cheering on and unconditionally supporting a player is mostly part of supporting a club!

1 hour ago, Argo said:

He can still at the very least show respect for the fans that supported him through let's be honest 18 months of largely crap form.

Mata was forced out by Jose, went to the very same club yet did a heartfelt goodbye. So even if Mount was forced out and him taking the same route David Beckham did was some massive coincidence, there's no excuse for the utter contempt he shown the fans, absolutely none.

What is this 'same route Beckham did' you keep mentioning?

You're upset he only made a video yet praise someone that didn't even do a video, just got his PR team to write a letter? The knit picking is crazy. Mount was harassed by Chelsea's vocal minority for years and then low balled by the Directors after already agreeing on a contract and you still expect more from him? Weird. 

I mean so far it looks like the club made the right decision with Mount. At this rate I'll be surprised if he becomes an England regular anymore. 

Players will always do what's best for themselves. This whole notion that they are through and through is an afterthought if they can get a better deal elsewhere. Fans need to stop putting them at such a pedestal and other fans need to stop hating them for choosing alternatives that better their career. 

If Atletico are offering Gallagher a better wage and role, go for it. 

11 hours ago, 19seventyone said:

That’s more to do with amortisation of their enormous transfer fees than utter belief in their ability.

 

Okay, I am not a financial person and I do understand that the spread over years is more to do with their enormous signing on fees, but they still get 7 years at a big salary.

 

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

@19seventyone has already mentioned the amortization aspect but I think we need to consider the wages involved vs the actual length of the contract. 

A vast majority of fans on this forum saw Gallagher at best a utility option for a top level club. Not a week in/week out starter, but a player that every title winning club has. The workhorses. (Park, Milner, Ramires, Henderson, etc). Now it's no secret that ownership want to lower the wage bill, especially on the bench. It's the very reason they are open to selling Chilwell, Cucurella, Sterling, etc. Caicedo and Enzo are seen as integral players for the starting XI. If reports are to be true, Gallagher has been pushing to be paid just as much as them and on a long term deal. He want's starter money wages despite being a rotation option. 

My question is, would the club have granted him a long term deal earning wages akin to Colwill? £100kpw. 

Yeah, this we know as fans: Gallagher is a great squad player - bleeds all the blues. But yep, he is a squad player.

We have known he has been leaving for a while. It is sad. But his replacement has already been bought.

I wonder if we have some deal within a deal lined up with Atletico Madrid?  Gallagher for cash --- and then some separate but linked deal for Omorodion ?

 

I think the board wanted to cash in on Conor for a while, they tried to sell him to Villa, the contractual negotiations that were not going anywhere fast ,etc. Now they're leaking this bit about him only being a squad player, all done to force him to f**k off. Most other footballers would have been gone already but Gallagher genuinely loves the club and has been desperate to stay and prove his worth.

It's a sad situation, really. With Conor and Trev being pushed out the door, Reece is the last remaining piece of the old Chelsea that still remains there. They've managed to wipe out every trace of the past history, be that staff or squad, in a matter of two years.

53 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

What is this 'same route Beckham did' you keep mentioning?

 

 

21 minutes ago, abramovich said:

I think the board wanted to cash in on Conor for a while, they tried to sell him to Villa, the contractual negotiations that were not going anywhere fast ,etc. Now they're leaking this bit about him only being a squad player, all done to force him to f**k off. Most other footballers would have been gone already but Gallagher genuinely loves the club and has been desperate to stay and prove his worth.

It's a sad situation, really. With Conor and Trev being pushed out the door, Reece is the last remaining piece of the old Chelsea that still remains there. They've managed to wipe out every trace of the past history, be that staff or squad, in a matter of two years.

That’s the problem I have with this mess; Lukaku, Kepa and others are/were not treated this way because of their ridiculous wages. If I were him I would dig in and politely ask to go play for London club on loan in my last year.  Club needs the pure profit, but he can easily get a £10m+ sign on fee as a free transfer even if his wages are lower than he expects.

16 minutes ago, abramovich said:

I think the board wanted to cash in on Conor for a while, they tried to sell him to Villa, the contractual negotiations that were not going anywhere fast ,etc. Now they're leaking this bit about him only being a squad player, all done to force him to f**k off. Most other footballers would have been gone already but Gallagher genuinely loves the club and has been desperate to stay and prove his worth.

It's a sad situation, really. With Conor and Trev being pushed out the door, Reece is the last remaining piece of the old Chelsea that still remains there. They've managed to wipe out every trace of the past history, be that staff or squad, in a matter of two years.

Try and look at it it from the club's angle. Now, there is still a lot to be unraveled, but this is what I understand to be the case. 

Gallagher has allegedly been pushing for wages akin to Caicedo and Enzo. It's no secret the sporting directors don't rate Gallagher that highly and even the majority of this forum alone believe Gallagher is at best a squad player. It doesn't make financial sense to pay Gallagher those wages paired with a long term deal when his role/level of influence will likely be less than those two. Had he accepted a squad role with squad role wages (£100kpw as the baseline before Champions League incentives) he could of likely been offered a longer deal. Instead, to keep him happy as well as securing his value, they offered him Caicedo/Enzo wages whilst only a shorter contract. 

The public briefings are embarrassing though. 

25 minutes ago, Argo said:

 

 

This is nonsense! Mason wanted a United transfer simply because our club is now run by c**ts that saw him as ££££! The same with Conor, the same with Big Trev and watch more down the line! Cole Palmer?

3 minutes ago, Mod said:

This is nonsense! Mason wanted a United transfer simply because our club is now run by c**ts that saw him as ££££! The same with Conor, the same with Big Trev and watch more down the line! Cole Palmer?

Trev is the only one who accepted a contract extension and has accepted his squad role to be fair. 

I think his transfer is the most damning one. 

Reports coming out now that Conor is being forced to train away from the first team when he returns.

The only loophole this ownership needs to find is one that will get them out of that 10 year pledge not to sell.

 

11 minutes ago, Mod said:

This is nonsense! Mason wanted a United transfer simply because our club is now run by c**ts that saw him as ££££! The same with Conor, the same with Big Trev and watch more down the line! Cole Palmer?

The same Palmer most likely wouldn't be here if Mount was.

So let's say it is true and Mount leaving was totally their decision then I'm not sure why replacing a burnt out footballer with arguably the best player in the entire league is being used as a reason to critisise them even more so when (as you've alluded too) there's already more than enough legitimate reasons to do so.

3 minutes ago, Argo said:

The same Palmer most likely wouldn't be here if Mount was.

So let's say it is true and Mount leaving was totally their decision then I'm not sure why replacing a burnt out footballer with arguably the best player in the entire league is being used as a reason to critisise them even more so when (as you've alluded too) there's already more than enough legitimate reasons to do so.

What has it got to do with Palmer? He was a young lad at City during that period! Its a strawman bringing him into Mason's transfer-out!

If you want to talk Palmer though, I wouldn't even credit the board and give more of the credit to Poch and Palmer himself! If you buy enough sh*t and start throwing it at a wall, there is a chance that a few will stick!