How can we not get attached to academy players ? Especially when we replace them with unproven players who are not better than them. 

If it happens is a great move for Conors career.

One of the top, most experienced coaches around to help him further improve. New league, New experience. 

For those reasons I am happy with whatever fee we get, happy for Conor. Think it will be really good for him.

30 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

If it happens is a great move for Conors career.

One of the top, most experienced coaches around to help him further improve. New league, New experience. 

For those reasons I am happy with whatever fee we get, happy for Conor. Think it will be really good for him.

I wonder what happens when you take Gallagher out of this side? I guess we'll find out, I agree with you and some others on here, him going to Spain will be far easier to take than seeing him turn out for a premiership side, but we are selling a one man wrecking ball who wins A LOT of balls in the oppos final third and was our best-performing midfielder last season. To me, he was the only player with energy in the midfield and ran himself into the ground. 

Will be sorely missed by me, great player to have around a club. Top, top pro and for change you can find down the sofa of a billionaires house. 

 

1 hour ago, bluetrooper said:

I wonder what happens when you take Gallagher out of this side? I guess we'll find out, I agree with you and some others on here, him going to Spain will be far easier to take than seeing him turn out for a premiership side, but we are selling a one man wrecking ball who wins A LOT of balls in the oppos final third and was our best-performing midfielder last season. To me, he was the only player with energy in the midfield and ran himself into the ground. 

Will be sorely missed by me, great player to have around a club. Top, top pro and for change you can find down the sofa of a billionaires house. 

 

Oh don't get me wrong, I want him to stay and think he is a very useful player who loves the club.

These owners are all about the money though, so is what is, conor deserves better and he will get better at Atletico, he is a top pro.

7 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Oh don't get me wrong, I want him to stay and think he is a very useful player who loves the club.

These owners are all about the money though, so is what is, conor deserves better and he will get better at Atletico, he is a top pro.

Think this might be the way we're going to go for several seasons until the kids grow up into footballers and either win something, which improves sell-on value, or just sell them at more than they were bought. It's a bit depressing thinking about it tbh. 

If he goes then Atletico are probably getting a midfielder who will improve them, he's a Simeone type player for sure, probably smash LaLiga to pieces. Atletico's portential gain is definitely a loss to us. 

4 hours ago, DidierDrogbalala said:

How can we not get attached to academy players ? Especially when we replace them with unproven players who are not better than them. 

And who ultimately cost more.

BlueCo are financial geniuses though, don't forget. They must be because they're rich and therefore must have added a lot of value to society.

Do fans think a group of venture capitalists care about connections?

The fact these 🤡 have turned one of the most successful teams in the last a 20 years into top 4 hopefuls should tell you what they think of the fans. As long as they make money they give zero f**ks.
We are only £££ to them nothing else. 
Look at who they hired for sporting directors Laurel and Hardy!! 

Absolute 🤡🤡

If a new academy player comes through who has any potential will get flogged for profit. This was my statement on don’t getting attached.

Did we not sell another young lad who made his debut last season under Poch?

I think it will be a great move if he gets it, playing under a proven manager who's willing to win at all cost. At least he's not going to Spurs or other top tier English teams, so won't be any hate on him. It's not surprising our late season form surge happened when he was playing well and leading the team, think we will feel his absence without him.

It’ll be hilarious if he refuses 

Just now, Sconnie Blue said:

It’ll be hilarious if he refuses 

Tbh, I wouldn't be upset if he tells boehly to fk off and runs his contract down. The way the club has treated a homegrown that bleeds blue is horrible. He's on rubbish wages compared to the rest but he puts in more of a shift than anyone.

Him and Trev...they've stuck with the club and deserve better from the club.

I've never felt this detached from the club for as long as I can remember.

The owners have ripped the soul out of the club in the space of two years.

Edited July 31, 20241 yr by Jezz

If (when) he goes there truly is no lasting remnant of culture left. Reece James is proper chels I guess, but not to the same level as Conor.

I hope he absolutely kills it in Spain, which he definitely will as that’s a perfect fit for him…

 

imagine when we were talking to simeone last spring… would’ve been incredible for this squad. 

 

8 minutes ago, H2SO4aq said:

Reece James is proper chels I guess, but not to the same level as Conor.

Sorry, what?

8 minutes ago, H2SO4aq said:

If (when) he goes there truly is no lasting remnant of culture left. 

How especially after seeing Silvas goodbye video in comparison to Mounts are we still stuck with the idea that "the culture" absolutely has to come from Cobham?

And that's before I get started on Drogba, Zola, Lampard etc...

Gallagher is a decent player, but nothing more than that to be honest. We all know he is a workhorse and brings a lot of energy and there is no wonder he is wanted and will probably play for a manager that has these attributes as his main requirements for his players.

IMHO Gallagher and Chalobah are way too overrated by the Chelsea fans. Good players, but definitely not that good as a lot of Chelsea fans think. 

Time has proven that we've never come to regret selling the English players, it's actually the foreigners that have gone to become superstars (KDB, Salah).

2 hours ago, petre ispirescu said:

Gallagher is a decent player, but nothing more than that to be honest(1). We all know he is a workhorse and brings a lot of energy (2) and there is no wonder he is wanted and will probably play for a manager that has these attributes as his main requirements for his players.

IMHO Gallagher and Chalobah are way too overrated by the Chelsea fans. Good players, but definitely not that good as a lot of Chelsea fans think. (3)

Time has proven that we've never come to regret selling the English players,(4)  it's actually the foreigners that have gone to become superstars (KDB, Salah). 

I'm sure people don't understand why fans are upset, i'll break it down:

1) that's your opinion, he was our second highest rated player last season behind C.Palmer. If Gallagher is nothing more than decent, the rest of our squad must be absolutely pants.

2) You say it like this isn't an important quality for successful teams? Fergie had Park Ji Sung, Liverpool had Hendo, we had Kante. All successful teams have energy to disrupt opposition when needed, you don't want a team that's immobile.

3) i'm still yet to see a Chelsea fan claim they're world class, or even anything more than squad players. People are upset because instead of using these players as perfect squad rotation options we're selling them for pennies and signing arguably worse players for more money. Chalobah IS better than Badiashile and probably on par with Disasi. Gallagher IS better than Ugochukwu, Lavia, Santos, Casadei, KDH and i'd argue in the two years he's been here he's been better than Enzo consitently. He has his technical flaws but the fact is he's played better than all of them. Caicedo is the only one that can have a claim against him last year. 

4) RLC is better than all those mentioned above. Tomori and Guehi would have saved us millions of pounds and the pain of some of the players we've seen over the years (Koulibaly/Badiashile/Disasi/Sarr). I think we'll come to regret Lewis Hall in a few years. CHO although we don't regret him would have saved us £60m we spent on Mudryk for more output. 

I understand the foreign fan may not understand the affinity the local fan has to the academy players but we want to see it. We're not claiming they're going to be world beaters but they'll save us untold money on transfer fees and actually have the desire to help Chelsea and leave their all on the pitch. Gilchrist will probably never be good enough but i'd rather have him on the bench than some Caleb Wiley or some other random player that isn't better, at least with Gilchrist he's one of us and i'll take that for a moment like his first goal over a poor foreign import any day. 

I have never felt so disconnected from Chelsea as I am right now 

I don’t even want to go to games though I’m sure that will change 

they have literally ripped the heart out of the club 

asset stripped everything and brought nothing to the club 

I hope Roman looks at it and thinks wtf 

someone didn’t do there due diligence here 

12 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

I'm sure people don't understand why fans are upset, i'll break it down:

1) that's your opinion, he was our second highest rated player last season behind C.Palmer. If Gallagher is nothing more than decent, the rest of our squad must be absolutely pants.

2) You say it like this isn't an important quality for successful teams? Fergie had Park Ji Sung, Liverpool had Hendo, we had Kante. All successful teams have energy to disrupt opposition when needed, you don't want a team that's immobile.

3) i'm still yet to see a Chelsea fan claim they're world class, or even anything more than squad players. People are upset because instead of using these players as perfect squad rotation options we're selling them for pennies and signing arguably worse players for more money. Chalobah IS better than Badiashile and probably on par with Disasi. Gallagher IS better than Ugochukwu, Lavia, Santos, Casadei, KDH and i'd argue in the two years he's been here he's been better than Enzo consitently. He has his technical flaws but the fact is he's played better than all of them. Caicedo is the only one that can have a claim against him last year. 

4) RLC is better than all those mentioned above. Tomori and Guehi would have saved us millions of pounds and the pain of some of the players we've seen over the years (Koulibaly/Badiashile/Disasi/Sarr). I think we'll come to regret Lewis Hall in a few years. CHO although we don't regret him would have saved us £60m we spent on Mudryk for more output. 

I understand the foreign fan may not understand the affinity the local fan has to the academy players but we want to see it. We're not claiming they're going to be world beaters but they'll save us untold money on transfer fees and actually have the desire to help Chelsea and leave their all on the pitch. Gilchrist will probably never be good enough but i'd rather have him on the bench than some Caleb Wiley or some other random player that isn't better, at least with Gilchrist he's one of us and i'll take that for a moment like his first goal over a poor foreign import any day. 

Ask yourself this - would you sign them if they were playing for Wolves or Brentford? Would you resign the likes of RLC, Abraham or Guehi? 

No English player that has left Chelsea has hit new heights. I see Abraham is now linked with a move to Palace. I mean, if all these players were that good, why no big club is intersted in them? Gallagher and Chalobah are available for affordable prices given the crazy state of the market, yet there is only a few clubs they are linked with.

I'm not saying Badiashile or Disasi are better players, it's just that I feel Chalobah and Gallagher are way too overrated here. As a matter of fact, Chalobah was already replaced in the squad by Tosin A. who, IMHO, is of the exact same quality. Plus he was on a free, so selling Chalobah makes perfect sense in the grand scheme of business things.

25 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

I'm sure people don't understand why fans are upset, i'll break it down:

1) that's your opinion, he was our second highest rated player last season behind C.Palmer. If Gallagher is nothing more than decent, the rest of our squad must be absolutely pants.

2) You say it like this isn't an important quality for successful teams? Fergie had Park Ji Sung, Liverpool had Hendo, we had Kante. All successful teams have energy to disrupt opposition when needed, you don't want a team that's immobile.

3) i'm still yet to see a Chelsea fan claim they're world class, or even anything more than squad players. People are upset because instead of using these players as perfect squad rotation options we're selling them for pennies and signing arguably worse players for more money. Chalobah IS better than Badiashile and probably on par with Disasi. Gallagher IS better than Ugochukwu, Lavia, Santos, Casadei, KDH and i'd argue in the two years he's been here he's been better than Enzo consitently. He has his technical flaws but the fact is he's played better than all of them. Caicedo is the only one that can have a claim against him last year. 

4) RLC is better than all those mentioned above. Tomori and Guehi would have saved us millions of pounds and the pain of some of the players we've seen over the years (Koulibaly/Badiashile/Disasi/Sarr). I think we'll come to regret Lewis Hall in a few years. CHO although we don't regret him would have saved us £60m we spent on Mudryk for more output. 

I understand the foreign fan may not understand the affinity the local fan has to the academy players but we want to see it. We're not claiming they're going to be world beaters but they'll save us untold money on transfer fees and actually have the desire to help Chelsea and leave their all on the pitch. Gilchrist will probably never be good enough but i'd rather have him on the bench than some Caleb Wiley or some other random player that isn't better, at least with Gilchrist he's one of us and i'll take that for a moment like his first goal over a poor foreign import any day. 

It's pointless talking about RLC, Tomori, Guehi nothing to do with current owners. But sold for the same reason that all clubs sell homegrown talent. It's playing to the rules. They don't make the rules they just play by them

I'll tell you who was better than anyone probably including Palmer at this stage of his career that was  De Bruyne, Salah, Mata. All of whom were disposed of by Mourinho.
Noone abandoned the club then, though that was when our period of being at the top really came to an end.
There is just so much opposition to wealthy american owners. I am coming to think it is a class thing. 

4 minutes ago, petre ispirescu said:

Ask yourself this - would you sign them if they were playing for Wolves or Brentford? Would you resign the likes of RLC, Abraham or Guehi? 

No English player that has left Chelsea has hit new heights. I see Abraham is now linked with a move to Palace. I mean, if all these players were that good, why no big club is intersted in them? Gallagher and Chalobah are available for affordable prices given the crazy state of the market, yet there is only a few clubs they are linked with.

I'm not saying Badiashile or Disasi are better players, it's just that I feel Chalobah and Gallagher are way too overrated here. As a matter of fact, Chalobah was already replaced in the squad by Tosin A. who, IMHO, is of the exact same quality. Plus he was on a free, so selling Chalobah makes perfect sense in the grand scheme of business things.

there was no need to sign tosin from a mid table rival. 

Would I have RLC, Abraham and now England regualr defender Guehi ahead of what we signed. I would actually. Guehi has become an England starter and replaced Harry Maguire. RLC could fill in across a number of positions in midfield, defence, and Abraham wasnt pretty to look at but scored goals for us and offers something different. 

You have just watched two seasons of decline on the pitch under the new ownership despite spending 1 billion dollars on new players. IMO, the reason for this is that the players weve signed, for a number of reasons haven't settled in the UK or Premier League yet, been injured or just not found form. That could all change again with our fifth manager in two seasons but the general flow has been decline rather than regeneration. 

So no I dont share your view selling Chalobah is a great move in the grand scheme of things but It'll probably happen, along with Gallagher to balance the books... So self imposed off field spending has left us here. I find this frustrating as a fan. 

 

We sold Nathan ake, everyone thought it was a good idea(too short). I’d have Guehi back. Tomori makes as many mistakes as Disasi. Abraham hasn’t done that well. Good sale. 

Edited July 31, 20241 yr by ozboy

🚨 Club-to-club agreement almost there for the transfer of Conor Gallagher to Atlético Madrid from Chelsea, then its up to Conor.

(@FabrizioRomano) #CFC

Just now, JM7 said:

🚨 Club-to-club agreement almost there for the transfer of Conor Gallagher to Atlético Madrid from Chelsea, then its up to Conor.

(@FabrizioRomano) #CFC

You would assume that Conor would be interested in a move otherwise the clubs wouldn’t have started negotiations 

22 minutes ago, petre ispirescu said:

Ask yourself this - would you sign them if they were playing for Wolves or Brentford? Would you resign the likes of RLC, Abraham or Guehi? 

No English player that has left Chelsea has hit new heights. I see Abraham is now linked with a move to Palace. I mean, if all these players were that good, why no big club is intersted in them? Gallagher and Chalobah are available for affordable prices given the crazy state of the market, yet there is only a few clubs they are linked with.

I'm not saying Badiashile or Disasi are better players, it's just that I feel Chalobah and Gallagher are way too overrated here. As a matter of fact, Chalobah was already replaced in the squad by Tosin A. who, IMHO, is of the exact same quality. Plus he was on a free, so selling Chalobah makes perfect sense in the grand scheme of business things.

We don't  have to sign them, we already have them at the club for free. We're selling them for peanuts to sign the players of Wolves and Brentford standard for substantially more money. In fact, we aren't even doing that. We're signing Championship level players. 

Can you explain how Chalobah and Gallagher are over rated? Point out where anyone is calling them world class players. You can't have a squad of 25 world class players, you need squad players which is exactly what they are perfect for. We could have signed Tosin anyway for free, the point still stands we spent £40m each on Badiashile and Disasi when we had Chalobah for free. Keep Chalobah and Guihi and you've saved £80m and got two better players. 

I don't really understand how people don't get this. Hey, at least we got rid of our second highest rated player and captain for much of last season and replaced him with a 25 year old that's only just had his breakout season in the Championship. Real upgrade for the squad. 

16 minutes ago, bluetrooper said:

there was no need to sign tosin from a mid table rival. 

Would I have RLC, Abraham and now England regualr defender Guehi ahead of what we signed. I would actually. Guehi has become an England starter and replaced Harry Maguire. RLC could fill in across a number of positions in midfield, defence, and Abraham wasnt pretty to look at but scored goals for us and offers something different. 

You have just watched two seasons of decline on the pitch under the new ownership despite spending 1 billion dollars on new players. IMO, the reason for this is that the players weve signed, for a number of reasons haven't settled in the UK or Premier League yet, been injured or just not found form. That could all change again with our fifth manager in two seasons but the general flow has been decline rather than regeneration. 

So no I dont share your view selling Chalobah is a great move in the grand scheme of things but It'll probably happen, along with Gallagher to balance the books... So self imposed off field spending has left us here. I find this frustrating as a fan. 

 

You see it as decline, I don't. Remember we'd surely finish top four had it not been for Pochettino's awful tactics in the first half of the season. As soon as he switched to the new tactics in February, we looked very good. It is not decline, it is actually the normal path as the transfers were all young players and need time to gel. It happened in the second half of last season and I am sure they will pick up where they left off.

45 minutes ago, ozboy said:

It's pointless talking about RLC, Tomori, Guehi nothing to do with current owners. But sold for the same reason that all clubs sell homegrown talent. It's playing to the rules. They don't make the rules they just play by them

I'll tell you who was better than anyone probably including Palmer at this stage of his career that was  De Bruyne, Salah, Mata. All of whom were disposed of by Mourinho.
Noone abandoned the club then, though that was when our period of being at the top really came to an end.
There is just so much opposition to wealthy american owners. I am coming to think it is a class thing. 

KDB and Salah were both dog sh*t for Chelsea, lets not pretend they did anything good in a blue shirt. KDB had potential but hadn't showed any of it except for half a pre season game that summer. Its also a completely different argument altogether though, we aren't talking about keeping these academy lads because they'll become world beaters. They should be kept to fill out the squad rather than wasting insane amounts of money on unheard of gambles. 

I don't know how so many people are completely missing the point or just choosing to ignore it.