10 minutes ago, petre ispirescu said:

You see it as decline, I don't. Remember we'd surely finish top four had it not been for Pochettino's awful tactics in the first half of the season. As soon as he switched to the new tactics in February, we looked very good. It is not decline, it is actually the normal path as the transfers were all young players and need time to gel. It happened in the second half of last season and I am sure they will pick up where they left off.

Going from CL winners to not being in the Europe for multiple years and rolling over in finals against school kids isn't a decline. God help this fan base. 

Selling this lad for 30 million (Robert Sanchez money) so we can afford our latest batch of 100 million unknowns says everything about the club at the moment unfortunately.

Killing the club one step at a time.

I’m taking a break maybe just a day or two, from the forum. I enjoy the chat and  been a member for a long time now  but the unending negativity gets me down. 

I guess Conor is too old for our squad as he is 24. Otherwise I don't see the reason to sell one of our best players.

41 minutes ago, ozboy said:

I’m taking a break maybe just a day or two, from the forum. I enjoy the chat and  been a member for a long time now  but the unending negativity gets me down. 

You and me both.

1 hour ago, JM7 said:

You would assume that Conor would be interested in a move otherwise the clubs wouldn’t have started negotiations 

With this bunch I wouldn’t be too sure about that, in fact, I’d wager he hasn’t a say in it!

1 hour ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Going from CL winners to not being in the Europe for multiple years and rolling over in finals against school kids isn't a decline. God help this fan base. 

We are entitled to different views and IMHO the club was/is right to release different Academy graduates. It happened a lot pre Clearlake era, it will happen in this era as well and so far none of those sold turned into top players. 

Bayern spent a fortune on a soon to be 30 yo Palhinha from Fulham. He is the same profile as Gallagher. Why did not Bayern go for Gallagher? Why isn't Liverpool or City interested in him? He fits Inter profile to a tee, why aren't they interested in him for such a low fee? Why no top clubs are interested in Gallagher and Chalobah if they are that good and available for basically huge discounts? 

Once again, I am not saying we have world class players in our squad that occupy their places. It's just that I do not think the likes of Gallagher and Chalobah will turn into top players.

If Palmer and Caicedo were Academy graduates and now discussed to be sold for profit, then I would have a big problem and would probably have your type of reaction. But not with Gallagher and Chalobah who I believe will have the same path as Abraham, Tomori, RLC or Mount and that's an average to decent career and nothing more than that.

1 hour ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Going from CL winners to not being in the Europe for multiple years and rolling over in finals against school kids isn't a decline. God help this fan base. 

Ironically the reason we "rolled over" is because our supposed second best player who should be kept at all costs missed two massive sitters to win it.

1 hour ago, ozboy said:

I’m taking a break maybe just a day or two, from the forum. I enjoy the chat and  been a member for a long time now  but the unending negativity gets me down. 

I think people are saddened by the thought of someone so Blue as Conor leaving. On top of which there are not many players left to make us feel proud and connected to. People need to vent, but admittedly negative, it feeling yet more down the spiral that we been on for the last 2-3 years.

42 minutes ago, Argo said:

Ironically the reason we "rolled over" is because our supposed second best player who should be kept at all costs missed two massive sitters to win it.

Was that not the game where he held the midfield together on his own while Caicedo and particularly Enzo stunk the place out? Pretty sure it was.

1 hour ago, petre ispirescu said:

We are entitled to different views and IMHO the club was/is right to release different Academy graduates. It happened a lot pre Clearlake era, it will happen in this era as well and so far none of those sold turned into top players. 

Bayern spent a fortune on a soon to be 30 yo Palhinha from Fulham. He is the same profile as Gallagher. Why did not Bayern go for Gallagher? Why isn't Liverpool or City interested in him? He fits Inter profile to a tee, why aren't they interested in him for such a low fee? Why no top clubs are interested in Gallagher and Chalobah if they are that good and available for basically huge discounts? 

Once again, I am not saying we have world class players in our squad that occupy their places. It's just that I do not think the likes of Gallagher and Chalobah will turn into top players.

If Palmer and Caicedo were Academy graduates and now discussed to be sold for profit, then I would have a big problem and would probably have your type of reaction. But not with Gallagher and Chalobah who I believe will have the same path as Abraham, Tomori, RLC or Mount and that's an average to decent career and nothing more than that.

No he isn't lmao and why are we pretending like Atletico Madrid aren't a top club? Very weird behavior. 

When you take into account the transfer fees we're paying for their replacements/competition we aren't making a profit. We're making profit on paper today and just kicking the financial burden down the road. 

3 hours ago, JM7 said:

You would assume that Conor would be interested in a move otherwise the clubs wouldn’t have started negotiations 

Club accepted bids from Everton and Spurs I believe and Gallagher refused each time. 

 

56 minutes ago, Argo said:

Ironically the reason we "rolled over" is because our supposed second best player who should be kept at all costs missed two massive sitters to win it.

Good job the billion dollar replacements won it for us then, isn't it! oh wait... another nonsense post, next. 

Palmer with more xG not converting, Jackson at CF with a single shot on target with almost more xG than all three of Gallagher's shots combines (massive sitters though according to you lol), £105m CM with pass accuracy in the 70's. Definitely Gallagher's fault though, lazy knit picking by you, be better. 

23 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Was that not the game where he held the midfield together on his own while Caicedo and particularly Enzo stunk the place out? Pretty sure it was.

It was, its just Argo being Argo. 

50 minutes ago, Valerie said:

I think people are saddened by the thought of someone so Blue as Conor leaving. On top of which there are not many players left to make us feel proud and connected to. People need to vent, but admittedly negative, it feeling yet more down the spiral that we been on for the last 2-3 years.

It is a very strange time to be a Chelsea fan. 

We are not winning and maybe not anytime soon. Unless you are a blueco fans, it is hard to believe that winning is in their plan. 

Football wise, Maresca football looks like another Sarriball, so we can expect snoozefest after snoozefest. 

We are also selling all the Cobham boys. I absolutely adore player like Gallagher. Discipline, run until his lung burst, love it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, petre ispirescu said:

We are entitled to different views and IMHO the club was/is right to release different Academy graduates. It happened a lot pre Clearlake era, it will happen in this era as well and so far none of those sold turned into top players. 

Bayern spent a fortune on a soon to be 30 yo Palhinha from Fulham. He is the same profile as Gallagher. Why did not Bayern go for Gallagher? Why isn't Liverpool or City interested in him? He fits Inter profile to a tee, why aren't they interested in him for such a low fee? Why no top clubs are interested in Gallagher and Chalobah if they are that good and available for basically huge discounts? 

Once again, I am not saying we have world class players in our squad that occupy their places. It's just that I do not think the likes of Gallagher and Chalobah will turn into top players.

If Palmer and Caicedo were Academy graduates and now discussed to be sold for profit, then I would have a big problem and would probably have your type of reaction. But not with Gallagher and Chalobah who I believe will have the same path as Abraham, Tomori, RLC or Mount and that's an average to decent career and nothing more than that.

You don't really believe that Conor would be sold because he's not good enough to play for Chelsea?

There are a load of imports that ain't good enough, but they are staying...for years and years on ridiculously long contracts .

Any decision to sell Conor will not be based on his ability or his worth to our team.

 

 

 

 

 

I feel like this was decided months ago and probably before Poch left. It may have even been one of the disagreements that led to Poch leaving. He clearly isn't keen to move, and by the look of things hasn't been offered a new deal. So the price keeps dropping and he may yet complicate things by deciding to see out his contract. Assuming he does leave I'd rather he went to Athletico, but I hope he only leaves if he gets the right move for himself as a player.

7 minutes ago, forbzy said:

I feel like this was decided months ago and probably before Poch left. It may have even been one of the disagreements that led to Poch leaving. He clearly isn't keen to move, and by the look of things hasn't been offered a new deal. So the price keeps dropping and he may yet complicate things by deciding to see out his contract. Assuming he does leave I'd rather he went to Athletico, but I hope he only leaves if he gets the right move for himself as a player.

Try years. 

Well at least they've spent half of Gallagher's transfer fee wisely already:

 

and you lot are trying to justify the sale has anything to do with ability and its not purely financial. Braindead. 

KDH is the Gallagher replacement. 

4 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

KDH is the Gallagher replacement. 

Aye, as Tosin was the Chalobah one.

6 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

KDH is the Gallagher replacement. 

That is all fine until you remember we are cutting it close with homegrown players. We will also have to make do with fewer players in the Conference League as there are club trained rules. 
For every player that comes through the academy that they ship out, the club will run into compliance issues.

47 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

 

 

Lol....almost 17 mill for a teenager keeper. This must make him the most expensive teenage goalkeeper in history. Another first for our wise owners. 

5 minutes ago, ducavis said:

That is all fine until you remember we are cutting it close with homegrown players. We will also have to make do with fewer players in the Conference League as there are club trained rules. 
For every player that comes through the academy that they ship out, the club will run into compliance issues.

The homegrown players we are genuinely trying to replace have already been replaced with homegrown players. Not sure what you are talking about. 

5 minutes ago, Nick05 said:

Lol....almost 17 mill for a teenager keeper. This must make him the most expensive teenage goalkeeper in history. Another first for our wise owners. 

I don't know much about Penders, but on its own this signing might be reasonable if the scouts have done their jobs. 

However, when you consider we have also spent decent money on young keepers Petrovic, Jorgensen, and Slonina in the last year or so this looks ridiculous. Not to mention we also purchased Sanchez just a year ago. I thought there were new limits on loans in which case how would we possibly ensure all these players have some first team action?