3 hours ago, Zeta said:

I don't want us to make another hugely overpriced transfer. When do they ever work out for us?

Lukaku - 100m - FLOP
Havertz - 70m - Jury is out
Kepa - 70m - FLOP
Morata - 60m - FLOP
Pulisic - 57m - Jury is out
Torres - 50m - FLOP
Werner - 47m - FLOP

It never works and we are always left trying to get rid of them for years.

In what way is the Jury still out on Pulisic?  

If anyone hasn't reached the obvious conclusion by now I worry for them.

Looking at that list Werner and Havertz were the only 2 player I had high expectations for prior to signing for us.  I felt the rest had already proved themselves not good enough prior to signing for us or were past their prime in Nando's case.

Edited August 12, 20223 yr by HazardousChoice

34 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

We've generally done alright when splashing the cash to sign defenders.

Of the 10 defenders below (I'm ignoring Cuadrado because he was a winger when we signed him), only Baba and Zappa have been poor buys.

Obviously early days on Koulibaly and Cucurella, but so far so good !

Wouldn't say Chilwell was a good buy myself.  We paid a massive fee for a player that isn't top tier and so far he's had an inconsistent season and a bad injury that derailed his 2nd one.

The Jury is certainly still out on Ben and I worry for him if Fofana signs as I'd expect Cucurella to start most games at Wingback then.

13 minutes ago, forbzy said:

Or not?

 

To be fair anyone can open a Twitter account and state fiction is fact.

Could just easily quote one saying we are signing Zaha for 25mill or McGuire for 65mill.

8 minutes ago, HazardousChoice said:

In what way is the Jury still out on Pulisic?  

If anyone hasn't reached the obvious conclusion by now I worry for them.

Looking at that list Werner and Havertz were the only 2 player I had high expectations for prior to signing for us.  I felt the rest had already proved themselves not good enough prior to signing for us or were past their prime in Nando's case.

In the way @Zeta baited a trap for you and you fell for it hook, line and sinker 

1 minute ago, axman2526 said:

To be fair anyone can open a Twitter account and state fiction is fact.

Could just easily quote one saying we are signing Zaha for 25mill or McGuire for 65mill.

Maguire for 65m? Who would post sci-fi like that? 😉

Just now, forbzy said:

Maguire for 65m? Who would post sci-fi like that? 😉

Man United fans.

25 minutes ago, HazardousChoice said:

Wouldn't say Chilwell was a good buy myself.  We paid a massive fee for a player that isn't top tier and so far he's had an inconsistent season and a bad injury that derailed his 2nd one.

The Jury is certainly still out on Ben and I worry for him if Fofana signs as I'd expect Cucurella to start most games at Wingback then.

I didn't say Chilwell was a good buy either ; I don't think anyone would disagree that he made a great start, faded, came back very strong in second season (and then got injured). He's definitely a long way from being a bad buy like say Baba Rahman though, and he still has an excellent chance of ending up in the "good" category by the time he is done here ... 

 

 

It’s not our money anyway 

get it done 

would be hilarious for everyone to complain oh no they spend 85 million on a defender oh no how dare they 

10 minutes ago, azpi28 said:

It’s not our money anyway 

get it done 

would be hilarious for everyone to complain oh no they spend 85 million on a defender oh no how dare they 

Ok when United, Pool and City do it lol.

 

I don’t recall Liverpool fans having any issue breaking the world record fee for a GK and CB at the time. 
 

I swear it’s only our fans that get bent outta shape about price. 

Edited August 12, 20223 yr by Sconnie Blue

Ben Jacobs update:

Wesley Fofana update. Currently more of a back and forth, which is exactly what #CFC hoped for after first two bids rejected. Chelsea have been using intermediaries to try and speed up a deal instead of just 'blind' bidding.

#LCFC stance has softened from 'not for sale' to 'not looking to sell'. Fofana still expected to play against Arsenal unless anything dramatic changes this evening. #CFC hoping for under £80m with an appealing structure to Leicester. But it still may take a world record fee.

Chelsea not only want a slightly cheaper deal (normal when negotiating), especially with their initial valuation closer to £55m. & they'd also prefer Fofana not to have the tag of 'world record defender'. That comes with hype & pressure. Harry Maguire found this out the hard way.

Chelsea know Leicester, should they sell, also want a replacement and may need the funds to get one. They're using this to try & move a sale along faster giving Leicester time to move in market. But #LCFC remain tough negotiators. Chelsea optimistic but deal by no means done.

#LCFC still controlling the timescale (and ultimately the sale) on their own terms, even knowing Fofana wants the move. Other thing to add, once talks become verbal it's often less about placing a bid and more about back and forth before doing so, to try and cut out wasted time.

5 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Ben Jacobs update:

Wesley Fofana update. Currently more of a back and forth, which is exactly what #CFC hoped for after first two bids rejected. Chelsea have been using intermediaries to try and speed up a deal instead of just 'blind' bidding.

#LCFC stance has softened from 'not for sale' to 'not looking to sell'. Fofana still expected to play against Arsenal unless anything dramatic changes this evening. #CFC hoping for under £80m with an appealing structure to Leicester. But it still may take a world record fee.

Chelsea not only want a slightly cheaper deal (normal when negotiating), especially with their initial valuation closer to £55m. & they'd also prefer Fofana not to have the tag of 'world record defender'. That comes with hype & pressure. Harry Maguire found this out the hard way.

Chelsea know Leicester, should they sell, also want a replacement and may need the funds to get one. They're using this to try & move a sale along faster giving Leicester time to move in market. But #LCFC remain tough negotiators. Chelsea optimistic but deal by no means done.

#LCFC still controlling the timescale (and ultimately the sale) on their own terms, even knowing Fofana wants the move. Other thing to add, once talks become verbal it's often less about placing a bid and more about back and forth before doing so, to try and cut out wasted time.

Don’t think it was the pressure that got to Maguire but more his extreme lack of footballing ability 

8 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Ben Jacobs update:

Wesley Fofana update. Currently more of a back and forth, which is exactly what #CFC hoped for after first two bids rejected. Chelsea have been using intermediaries to try and speed up a deal instead of just 'blind' bidding.

#LCFC stance has softened from 'not for sale' to 'not looking to sell'. Fofana still expected to play against Arsenal unless anything dramatic changes this evening. #CFC hoping for under £80m with an appealing structure to Leicester. But it still may take a world record fee.

Chelsea not only want a slightly cheaper deal (normal when negotiating), especially with their initial valuation closer to £55m. & they'd also prefer Fofana not to have the tag of 'world record defender'. That comes with hype & pressure. Harry Maguire found this out the hard way.

Chelsea know Leicester, should they sell, also want a replacement and may need the funds to get one. They're using this to try & move a sale along faster giving Leicester time to move in market. But #LCFC remain tough negotiators. Chelsea optimistic but deal by no means done.

#LCFC still controlling the timescale (and ultimately the sale) on their own terms, even knowing Fofana wants the move. Other thing to add, once talks become verbal it's often less about placing a bid and more about back and forth before doing so, to try and cut out wasted time.

Easily done.

Let's say Leicester want 85mill for Fofana, and our only gripe about that is the "world's most expensive defender" tag.

Do what we did with Napoli, Sarri and Jorgi. Tack Sarris release fee on to Jorgis fee so Sarri is "free".

Pay 60mill for Fofana and say 45mill for Tieldmans who would normally go at 20mill, as an example. Then we get a good midfielder too.

11 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Ben Jacobs update:

Wesley Fofana update. Currently more of a back and forth, which is exactly what #CFC hoped for after first two bids rejected. Chelsea have been using intermediaries to try and speed up a deal instead of just 'blind' bidding.

#LCFC stance has softened from 'not for sale' to 'not looking to sell'. Fofana still expected to play against Arsenal unless anything dramatic changes this evening. #CFC hoping for under £80m with an appealing structure to Leicester. But it still may take a world record fee.

Chelsea not only want a slightly cheaper deal (normal when negotiating), especially with their initial valuation closer to £55m. & they'd also prefer Fofana not to have the tag of 'world record defender'. That comes with hype & pressure. Harry Maguire found this out the hard way.

Chelsea know Leicester, should they sell, also want a replacement and may need the funds to get one. They're using this to try & move a sale along faster giving Leicester time to move in market. But #LCFC remain tough negotiators. Chelsea optimistic but deal by no means done.

#LCFC still controlling the timescale (and ultimately the sale) on their own terms, even knowing Fofana wants the move. Other thing to add, once talks become verbal it's often less about placing a bid and more about back and forth before doing so, to try and cut out wasted time.

I am beginning to think you are this Ben Jacobs mate 😉

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

To be fair anyone can open a Twitter account and state fiction is fact.

Could just easily quote one saying we are signing Zaha for 25mill or McGuire for 65mill.

It was an actual journalist though. Santi Aouna is pretty reliable.

* CB 

Edited August 12, 20223 yr by azpi28

Leicester have communicated to Chelsea the official fee to release Wesley Fofana would amount to €95million. Negotiations should intensify this weekend with the English intermediaries involved in the case (via @Santi_J_FM) #CFC #LCFC

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

I am beginning to think you are this Ben Jacobs mate 😉

I’m a man of many disguises 

Intermediaries will be keen. they only make money if it happens.

The management of Leicester is finally starting to open the door for the departure of Wesley Fofana, who has already agreed on personal terms with Chelsea. (via @Santi_J_FM) #CFC #LCFC

Sounds like we’re getting closer and closer. 

17 minutes ago, JM7 said:

I’m a man of many disguises 

The worry is Eric Dire has his one good game of the season on Sunday, and we start chasing after him.

Fun fact Eric Dire and Danny Dire went to the same secondary school and their PE teacher says Danny is still the better defender.