11 hours ago, just said:

I'd certainly like to have seen Guiu given a run of games to have a go. Works harder than Jackson, brave young fecker, has a real go in the air. There's a lot to like about him, but unfortunately he got injured at the wrong time.

We cannot, under any circumstances whatsoever, continue with Jackson as our starting centre-forward next season. Same with Sanchez in goal.

You will be in for a surprise. I get the impression they are looking for a backup for him. Delap seems destined for Utd; would instantly become their No 9, huge fan base, and they will pay him way more than we will.

5 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Not sure this is debatable.

Jackson absolutely destroyed bournemuth defense almost single handedly

Absolutely destroyed?

Was that the 1-0 away win or the game we salvaged a late 2-2 draw thanks to a 95th minute James free-kick?

16 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

f**k me - you are like a broken record. What part of I don’t care, or think it matters, don’t you understand?

Play Guiu, or Madueke, or Neto, or Maureen the tea lady for all I care. Or what about McNeilly - the young striker who led the line beautifully when the kids beat the first team (including Jackson?) a couple of weeks ago. All workable options, and players who actually have a future for the club. But for the 57th time, I don’t care - the most important thing is getting the best out of the best players, and a system and style of play that suits them.

Guiu is injured, i'm not a physio but i don't think that would be advised.

Madueke and Neto aren't strikers. We tried Neto up top against Arsenal and Villa and got bullied and lost both games, even though we dominated both earlier in the season with Jackson with a wom and a draw.

We played Mhueka up top and he was hopeless, just like McNeilly would be in the mens game.

More imaginary scenarios. Not sure how any of the options you've given us help your star boy Nkunku either.

4 hours ago, ducavis said:

You will be in for a surprise. I get the impression they are looking for a backup for him. Delap seems destined for Utd; would instantly become their No 9, huge fan base, and they will pay him way more than we will.

Just in pl alone, the 4 clear upgrade are

Wissa (I don't watch Brentford so i don't know what kind of player he is but just a quick google, he is short and he is 29 years old)

Isak 😂😂

Salah 😂😂

Haaland 😂😂

Finding an upgrade over Jackson is very difficult.

No it isn't. Throw a stone into a crowd and you'll hit a better striker.

Don't let Jackson throw it though, or he'll miss.

Edited April 16Apr 16 by Zeta

14 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

Just in pl alone, the 4 clear upgrade are

Wissa (I don't watch Brentford so i don't know what kind of player he is but just a quick google, he is short and he is 29 years old)

Isak 😂😂

Salah 😂😂

Haaland 😂😂

Finding an upgrade over Jackson is very difficult.

Come on bob.... clearly it would not be hard to replace this fraud.

But you need to stop thinking about like for like, and instead start thinking around the idea of changing how we play to get the best out of our core star players. It isn't about replacing Nicolas Jackson, but about replacing him, and the system, to better service the team and the good players we have.

30 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Guiu is injured, i'm not a physio but i don't think that would be advised.

Madueke and Neto aren't strikers. We tried Neto up top against Arsenal and Villa and got bullied and lost both games, even though we dominated both earlier in the season with Jackson with a wom and a draw.

We played Mhueka up top and he was hopeless, just like McNeilly would be in the mens game.

More imaginary scenarios. Not sure how any of the options you've given us help your star boy Nkunku either.

You are not stupid, but do come across as a simpleton at times....That or you have selective hearing/reading.

I have said multiple times (which you always choose to ignore) that it isn't just about replacing the Fraud - but instead about changing the way we play to get the best out of our good players.

I am not surprised that Mhueka failed on that one occasion he played in the current system. Or Neto that one time we played him alone up front. I think that anyone else we try would also fail. I genuinely believe that if we put Haaland in this current team and in this current system we would continue to struggle.

So again - stop being a twat and only arguing about the bit about jackson being replaced - when I am clearly not arguing for only like for like changes.

I get it - you like him and want him to play above all else... to the extent that you ignore any other opinion or comment. You see a comment about Jackson getting dropped and see red. That's fine. Be a fanboy. I am happy for you. But it doesn't change the fact that Jackson is absolutely rubbish.

Edited April 16Apr 16 by nonotnowjim

7 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Jackson absolutely destroyed bournemuth defense almost single handedly

Did he?

He played Bournemouth twice this season and scored 6.4 and 6.9 on sofa score respectively. Hardly the hyperbolic "single handed destruction" that you allude to.

8 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

You are not stupid, but do come across as a simpleton at times....That or you have selective hearing/reading.

I have said multiple times (which you always choose to ignore) that it isn't just about replacing the Fraud - but instead about changing the way we play to get the best out of our good players.

I am not surprised that Mhueka failed on that one occasion he played in the current system. Or Neto that one time we played him alone up front. I think that anyone else we try would also fail. I genuinely believe that if we put Haaland in this current team and in this current system we would continue to struggle.

So again - stop being a twat and only arguing about the bit about jackson being replaced - when I am clearly not arguing for only like for like changes.

I get it - you like him and want him to play above all else... to the extent that you ignore any other opinion or comment. You see a comment about Jackson getting dropped and see red. That's fine. Be a fanboy. I am happy for you. But it doesn't change the fact that Jackson is absolutely rubbish.

Was this when you said you wanted to play a back three with wing backs for Reece and two strikers for Nkunku but also have Cole Palmer at RW? I remember, its hard to forget something so nonsensical.

I've said multiple times on this forum that we should be looking to upgrade Jackson, i also recongise he's by far the best option we currently have. I can explain why players aren't good without having to call them c**ts or have digs at their personal lives like a weird little child. You're a bellend.

28 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Come on bob.... clearly it would not be hard to replace this fraud.

But you need to stop thinking about like for like, and instead start thinking around the idea of changing how we play to get the best out of our core star players. It isn't about replacing Nicolas Jackson, but about replacing him, and the system, to better service the team and the good players we have.

Who is this good player that we have?

Our best attacker is Palmer, 2nd best is Jackson n you have Madueke . That is it.

6 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Was this when you said you wanted to play a back three with wing backs for Reece and two strikers for Nkunku but also have Cole Palmer at RW? I remember, its hard to forget something so nonsensical.

I've said multiple times on this forum that we should be looking to upgrade Jackson, i also recongise he's by far the best option we currently have. I can explain why players aren't good without having to call them c**ts or have digs at their personal lives like a weird little child. You're a bellend.

Yes. I advocate for playing James, Palmer and Nkunku in their best positions (wing back, atm right and 2nd striker) in a system that suits them. Round pegs in round holes....what a novel idea!

2 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

Who is this good player that we have?

Our best attacker is Palmer, 2nd best is Jackson n you have Madueke . That is it.

Incorrect.

We have (in my humble opinion) 4 players, who when fit and on form are world class in their respective positions.

Those are Palmer (attacking midfield on the right), caicedo (cm), nkunku (2nd striker) and reece james (wing back).

There is then a tranch of serviceable supporting players (collwill, cucu, enzo, madueke, neto, Sancho, Chalobah) who are all decent to play a supporting role.

We then have a group of players who are simply not good enough to ever play for chelsea (sanchez, baddy, disasi, jackson, kdh, mudryk) -and who we should not play.

23 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Yes. I advocate for playing James, Palmer and Nkunku in their best positions (wing back, atm right and 2nd striker) in a system that suits them. Round pegs in round holes....what a novel idea!

what system is this? Please enlighten me, i'm yet to see a football coach manager to draw up a game plan of a back 3 with 2 strikers and someone playing wide right.

Please do your EUFA pro license, the footballing world is truly missing your imagination. This formation must bang on fifa for you.

8 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

what system is this? Please enlighten me, i'm yet to see a football coach manager to draw up a game plan of a back 3 with 2 strikers and someone playing wide right.

Please do your EUFA pro license, the footballing world is truly missing your imagination. This formation must bang on fifa for you.

Yep, an asymmetric system always works well on FM and fifa....

But again - you seem to be firmly in the mindset of putting boxes and rigid systems and numbers on a page. You do know that players can move around right?

Side story - do you know one of my favourite ever games? It was Chelsea vs Liverpool at the bridge in (i think in 97?). We were 2v0 down at half time and getting ripped a new one... and then Ruud made some subs, and we turned it around to win 4v2.

Until this day, I could not tell you the system or formation we played in that 2nd half. Players were moving around, all over the park, filling gaps, playing with energy, pride, determination and fight. Despite not having a definable formation - or players playing in pre determined boxes on the pitch, we were f**king awesome. It was the closest I ever saw to total football.

My point is, try not to get too hung up on numbers on a page, "what formation", "who plays in this particular space" .... instead, why not trying to play our best players, in their best positions, and letting our other expensively assembled supporting cast service them and fit in around them.

Edited April 16Apr 16 by nonotnowjim

28 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Yep, an asymmetric system always works well on FM and fifa....

But again - you seem to be firmly in the mindset of putting boxes and rigid systems and numbers on a page. You do know that players can move around right?

Side story - do you know one of my favourite ever games? It was Chelsea vs Liverpool at the bridge in (i think in 97?). We were 2v0 down at half time and getting ripped a new one... and then Ruud made some subs, and we turned it around to win 4v2.

Until this day, I could not tell you the system or formation we played in that 2nd half. Players were moving around, all over the park, filling gaps, playing with energy, pride, determination and fight. Despite not having a definable formation - or players playing in pre determined boxes on the pitch, we were f**king awesome. It was the closest I ever saw to total football.

My point is, try not to get too hung up on numbers on a page, "what formation", "who plays in this particular space" .... instead, why not trying to play our best players, in their best positions, and letting our other expensively assembled supporting cast service them and fit in around them.

That's great, you still won't be able to play Palmer, Nkunku another striker and James at wing back though.

41 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

That's great, you still won't be able to play Palmer, Nkunku another striker and James at wing back though.

That’s the kind of closed minded thinking that has got us into this mess in the first place….

2 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

I can explain why players aren't good without having to call them c**ts or have digs at their personal lives like a weird little child. You're a bellend.

I can (and have) explained why Jackson is trash - on probably hundreds of occasions. You just choose to ignore it.

• He can’t shoot

• He can’t pass

• He can’t head

• He doesn’t assist on a consistent basis

• He is weak

• He is poor at controlling the ball

• He is a poor dribbler

• He is stupid and loses his head to easily

• He is offside far too often.

• He misses too many easy chances.

The only thing he is better than average at is chasing down a lost cause, and trying to close down opposing players. He does this with energy and consistency, with his “headless chicken/bull in a china shop” routine.

He is rubbish.

2 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

You are not stupid, but do come across as a simpleton at times....That or you have selective hearing/reading.

I have said multiple times (which you always choose to ignore) that it isn't just about replacing the Fraud - but instead about changing the way we play to get the best out of our good players.

I am not surprised that Mhueka failed on that one occasion he played in the current system. Or Neto that one time we played him alone up front. I think that anyone else we try would also fail. I genuinely believe that if we put Haaland in this current team and in this current system we would continue to struggle.

So again - stop being a twat and only arguing about the bit about jackson being replaced - when I am clearly not arguing for only like for like changes.

I get it - you like him and want him to play above all else... to the extent that you ignore any other opinion or comment. You see a comment about Jackson getting dropped and see red. That's fine. Be a fanboy. I am happy for you. But it doesn't change the fact that Jackson is absolutely rubbish.

Even if you wanted a more fast pace counter attacking system, Jackson would still be a starter as that benefits him more so either way there's no real escaping him.

2 minutes ago, Remodez said:

Even if you wanted a more fast pace counter attacking system, Jackson would still be a starter as that benefits him more so either way there's no real escaping him.

I don’t agree. He still can’t shoot, assist regularly, head, dribble , or win any psychical duels….he still won’t be able to comprehend the offside rule, and he remains as thick as 2 short planks…. And he remains a liability….

So what’s the point of playing him….a waste of space

23 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

I can (and have) explained why Jackson is trash - on probably hundreds of occasions. You just choose to ignore it.

• He can’t shoot

• He can’t pass

• He can’t head

• He doesn’t assist on a consistent basis

• He is weak

• He is poor at controlling the ball

• He is a poor dribbler

• He is stupid and loses his head to easily

• He is offside far too often.

• He misses too many easy chances.

The only thing he is better than average at is chasing down a lost cause, and trying to close down opposing players. He does this with energy and consistency, with his “headless chicken/bull in a china shop” routine.

He is rubbish.

He can't shoot - better shot on target % (43.1%) than Madueke (37.7%), Neto (29.2%), Palmer (35.8%) and Sancho (27.3%). Marginally worse than Nkunku at 44% who you think is the second coming of Christ. Highest goals per shot ratio by everyone except Sancho, who barely shoots. By no means is he good at shooting, but he's the best we have.

He can't pass - More assists per90 than all our attackers not names Palmer. More goal creating actions than everyone not named Sancho.

He can't head - Yeah fairs, none of our attackers can though.

He doesn't assist on a consistent basis - Covered above.

He is weak - Based on what? Seen him bounce multiple players like the assist against Bounemouth and when he's played against Konate. Probably the strongest attacker we have so another weird one to bring up when you want the others to start ahead of him.

He is poor at controlling the ball - Covered in a previous message on this thread from the article you posted about Neto.

He is stupid and loses his head too easily - Our most loved strikers are literally Drogba and Costa...

He is offside far too often - Offside 18 times in 25 appearances this season. 0.72 times a game. This is something he's clearly worked on from last season.

He misses too many easy chances - I agree, certainly something he needs to work on. His G-xG is better than Nkunku's though, which shows its a problem with both our strikers.

"he is rubbish". The team scores more and concedes less with him in the team than any of our other attackers. He's clearly important.

Can we do better? Yes. Do we have better? No.

3 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Just in pl alone, the 4 clear upgrade are

Wissa (I don't watch Brentford so i don't know what kind of player he is but just a quick google, he is short and he is 29 years old)

Isak 😂😂

Salah 😂😂

Haaland 😂😂

Finding an upgrade over Jackson is very difficult.

I don't really look too much at these so i am not too familiar with the acronyms. I am assuming that the G-xG feld represents actual goals minus the expected goals. If I am correct, i think that's a pretty important stat, and also indicated out boy is pretty fkign horrendous when compared to everyone else in the division. Perhaps the column should be headed up CAwaB - Cows Ar$e with a Banjo

5 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

I don't really look too much at these so i am not too familiar with the acronyms. I am assuming that the G-xG feld represents actual goals minus the expected goals. If I am correct, i think that's a pretty important stat, and also indicated out boy is pretty fkign horrendous when compared to everyone else in the division. Perhaps the column should be headed up CAwaB - Cows Ar$e with a Banjo

yeah - his stats are horrendous. But more importantly is that we can see he is trash with our eyes.

33 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

He can't shoot - better shot on target % (43.1%) than Madueke (37.7%), Neto (29.2%), Palmer (35.8%) and Sancho (27.3%). Marginally worse than Nkunku at 44% who you think is the second coming of Christ. Highest goals per shot ratio by everyone except Sancho, who barely shoots. By no means is he good at shooting, but he's the best we have.

He can't pass - More assists per90 than all our attackers not names Palmer. More goal creating actions than everyone not named Sancho.

He can't head - Yeah fairs, none of our attackers can though.

He doesn't assist on a consistent basis - Covered above.

He is weak - Based on what? Seen him bounce multiple players like the assist against Bounemouth and when he's played against Konate. Probably the strongest attacker we have so another weird one to bring up when you want the others to start ahead of him.

He is poor at controlling the ball - Covered in a previous message on this thread from the article you posted about Neto.

He is stupid and loses his head too easily - Our most loved strikers are literally Drogba and Costa...

He is offside far too often - Offside 18 times in 25 appearances this season. 0.72 times a game. This is something he's clearly worked on from last season.

He misses too many easy chances - I agree, certainly something he needs to work on. His G-xG is better than Nkunku's though, which shows its a problem with both our strikers.

"he is rubbish". The team scores more and concedes less with him in the team than any of our other attackers. He's clearly important.

Can we do better? Yes. Do we have better?

Look geezer, I am not going to keep going around the houses with you. Comparing shots and stats of Jackson to others is like comparing apples and oranges. Why should you need to compare jackson's stats to these others, when these other players have not played up front for our first team on a regular basis. It's like saying Jackson is a brilliant keeper because he has let in less goals this season than sanchez and jorgensen.... it is irrelevant.

What is relevant is that Jackson has played up front for our first team. He has been given huge numbers of chances. He misses huge amounts. He doesn't create goals for others with any regularity (despite one of his key selling points being his ability to make space for others and bring others into play), he can't head, he is weak and loses physical duels, he can't control the ball, he can't dribble. We don't needs stats to prove this. I don't need to compare him to players who have not played in the same circumstances, because we can see it week in week out with our eyes. He hasn't scored for goodness knows how long. When did he last have an assist?

He is rubbish. So many people on here admit that he is not good enough to be chelsea's starting striker. Even you admit he isn't good enough and we can do better....so why bother continuing to play a player that clearly is out of his depth and not cut out for chelsea.

Edited April 16Apr 16 by nonotnowjim

4 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

Come on bob.... clearly it would not be hard to replace this fraud.

But you need to stop thinking about like for like, and instead start thinking around the idea of changing how we play to get the best out of our core star players. It isn't about replacing Nicolas Jackson, but about replacing him, and the system, to better service the team and the good players we have.

In the Moneyball parlance you are advocating "re-creating him in the aggregate !"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gpbgwdmRVQ

30 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Look geezer, I am not going to keep going around the houses with you. Comparing shots and stats of Jackson to others is like comparing apples and oranges. Why should you need to compare jackson's stats to these others, when these other players have not played up front for our first team on a regular basis. It's like saying Jackson is a brilliant keeper because he has let in less goals this season than sanchez and jorgensen.... it is irrelevant.

What is relevant is that Jackson has played up front for our first team. He has been given huge numbers of chances. He misses huge amounts. He doesn't create goals for others with any regularity (despite one of his key selling points being his ability to make space for others and bring others into play), he can't head, he is weak and loses physical duels, he can't control the ball, he can't dribble. We don't needs stats to prove this. I don't need to compare him to players who have not played in the same circumstances, because we can see it week in week out with our eyes. He hasn't scored for goodness knows how long. When did he last have an assist?

He is rubbish. So many people on here admit that he is not good enough to be chelsea's starting striker. Even you admit he isn't good enough and we can do better....so why bother continuing to play a player that clearly is out of his depth and not cut out for chelsea.

Nkunku has played upfront plenty.. You want these other players to go up top, but don't want to hear it when its blatantly obvious why they aren't up top.

You're like a record got stuck, you keep saying this without anything to back it up. You've got data in front of you that will show he's better than the alternatives currently.

We don't have anyone else until the end of the season. You can cry like a little baby about how you don't like him and you want him dropped but that's clearly not in Chelsea's interests between now and the end of the season. You can say you think he isn't good enough long term, no one is going to disagree with you. It's when you turn into a grumpy little twat claiming anyone would do better and you want his entire bloodline wiped from the face of the earth. We get it, shut the f**k up for once. Stop taking over every thread on this forum with your moaning, chances are he won't be leading the line for us next season. Until then go watch NFL or something its boring.