49 minutes ago, The Boehly Babes said:

Needs to just get the surgery and write this season off.

He’s a shadow of the player he was under Poch.

No point prioritising a ‘World Cup’ year in a position he’s probably 4th choice currently?

We know the player he is and to get back to that the surgery is inevitable.

I don't even know what is going on with Palmer anymore. They say surgery is not needed, but if it's not needed then he needs to play more. So many players are in and out of the squad, it's impossible to gain any momentum. You can play well in one game and find yourself on the bench in the next one.

It's the same with James. He's constantly under protection apparently, but we can't have him playing one game and then missing the next one or only playing 20 minutes. We need him on the pitch. CB's chopping and changing every game too. No balance in this squad, it's just throwing a bunch of players together and hoping it sticks.

I want to see Palmer and Estevao playing 90 minutes together most weeks, but it's never happening. Every other club manages it, but not us. We need to keep playing our dogsh*t players to keep their market value up apparently.

2 minutes ago, GarnachoCheese said:

I suspect his groin issue has more to do with that…

Just now, Sconnie Blue said:

I suspect his groin issue has more to do with that…

The stats date back to last year too.

19 hours ago, GarnachoCheese said:

The stats date back to last year too.

849 of those minutes are from this season though and all he has been doing is fighting to get fit, and as we saw in the CWC, he was brilliant with Pedro. I would say this is much more to do with his groin injury than Jackson not being on the pitch.

Edited February 5Feb 5 by Scott Harris

On 03/02/2026 at 22:20, The Boehly Babes said:

Needs to just get the surgery and write this season off.

He’s a shadow of the player he was under Poch.

No point prioritising a ‘World Cup’ year in a position he’s probably 4th choice currently?

We know the player he is and to get back to that the surgery is inevitable.

Is surgery even an option? I remember reading that the groin strain is not something surgery would definitely help with, and it just needs rest.

2 minutes ago, Shweaves said:

Is surgery even an option? I remember reading that the groin strain is not something surgery would definitely help with, and it just needs rest.

Is it not something very similar to what RJ struggled with for multiple years before getting some miracle surgery and resting up? Which, touch wood, seems to have worked so far this season.

On 04/02/2026 at 15:09, Sconnie Blue said:

I suspect his groin issue has more to do with that…

Palmer isn't alone in having groin issues since Jackson stopped playing for us

Just talked to another mate of mine who played Uni footy. He basically confirmed what many of us already assumed. (He had a sports hernia surgery years back). Groin issues take months, sometimes years to overcome naturally. So for a professional footballer, to simply sit down and do nothing for 12+ months in hopes to not aggravate the injury is an impossibility.

Palmer wants to play in the World Cup. I think based on the evidence its clear he's told the medical staff and they are managing his minutes + pain tolerance.

The good news is, like Enzo, if he gets the surgery in the summer after the world cup, he should be back just at the tail end of preseason.

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Palmer wants to play in the World Cup. I think based on the evidence it’s clear he's told the medical staff and they are managing his minutes + pain tolerance.

I don’t begrudge anyone wanting to play in the World Cup but someone needs to properly advise him, performing as he currently is, with the wealth of talent England has in that position, it’s no guarantee at all.

We all know, fully fit, Cole Palmer is Englands best player. However the current Cole Palmer is miles off the pace.

Morgan Rogers, Phil Foden, Jude Bellingham (If they push him further forward to accommodate Rice + Andersen/Wharton) are all ahead of him.

Maybe, admitting defeat, writing off this season and come back the player he was for a full season next is the best option.

16 minutes ago, The Boehly Babes said:

Maybe, admitting defeat, writing off this season and come back the player he was for a full season next is the best option.

Personally, the season was a write the moment I read Colwill done his ACL.

So long as he gets the surgery days after England's WC journey then its fine. He'll be back at the tail end of preseason.

1 hour ago, The Boehly Babes said:

I don’t begrudge anyone wanting to play in the World Cup but someone needs to properly advise him, performing as he currently is, with the wealth of talent England has in that position, it’s no guarantee at all.

We all know, fully fit, Cole Palmer is Englands best player. However the current Cole Palmer is miles off the pace.

Morgan Rogers, Phil Foden, Jude Bellingham (If they push him further forward to accommodate Rice + Andersen/Wharton) are all ahead of him.

Maybe, admitting defeat, writing off this season and come back the player he was for a full season next is the best option.

Ermm when was this? We fans got carried because of his exploits off the bench for England. He has been average when he has started for England. As things stand, I don’t think he makes the team. If he does he is going as an option of the bench.

1 hour ago, The Boehly Babes said:

I don’t begrudge anyone wanting to play in the World Cup but someone needs to properly advise him, performing as he currently is, with the wealth of talent England has in that position, it’s no guarantee at all.

We all know, fully fit, Cole Palmer is Englands best player. However the current Cole Palmer is miles off the pace.

Morgan Rogers, Phil Foden, Jude Bellingham (If they push him further forward to accommodate Rice + Andersen/Wharton) are all ahead of him.

Maybe, admitting defeat, writing off this season and come back the player he was for a full season next is the best option.

It's f**ked us, Cole Palmer was going to win us the World Cup this summer.

3 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Just talked to another mate of mine who played Uni footy. He basically confirmed what many of us already assumed. (He had a sports hernia surgery years back). Groin issues take months, sometimes years to overcome naturally. So for a professional footballer, to simply sit down and do nothing for 12+ months in hopes to not aggravate the injury is an impossibility.

Palmer wants to play in the World Cup. I think based on the evidence its clear he's told the medical staff and they are managing his minutes + pain tolerance.

The good news is, like Enzo, if he gets the surgery in the summer after the world cup, he should be back just at the tail end of preseason.

So, in theory, had he had this surgery say in October last year, couldnt he have had his own pre season and staked a better claim for the world cup playing in better shape from February or March onwards?

I mean as he is, is he even playing well enough to make England's squad?

8 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

So, in theory, had he had this surgery say in October last year, couldnt he have had his own pre season and staked a better claim for the world cup playing in better shape from February or March onwards?

I mean as he is, is he even playing well enough to make England's squad?

This is where I am starting to think the club are responsible as well, as they still want Palmer involved given if we don't make Top 4 they are f**ked financially. So they will go the conservative method and rest him every other week.

I don't think the way he is playing this season he will make the World Cup squad ,very sad

58 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

This is where I am starting to think the club are responsible as well, as they still want Palmer involved given if we don't make Top 4 they are f**ked financially. So they will go the conservative method and rest him every other week.

Could well be Sconnie, and is doing nobody any good.

18 hours ago, markpitts said:

Ermm when was this? We fans got carried because of his exploits off the bench for England. He has been average when he has started for England. As things stand, I don’t think he makes the team. If he does he is going as an option of the bench.

We win the last tournament if Palmer started every match.

Said he'd get a hatrick in the next two three games ago... Well done that man getting back among the goals.

Sigh…

Is he statistically the best penalty taker in Premier League history yet?

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Sigh…

The problem is, how is he supposed to get back to himself? It's not going to happen this season, not this late, it will ruin any chance he has to get into that world cup squad. If he does go to the world cup, then what? straight back into next season and struggle again? The reality of modern football's fixture congestion really hits most when players are injured, they can't seem to find a window to recover.

Palmer seems to have multiple injuries from what I have seen, groin and thigh, I can't see how he's going to find time to recover. He really should have just not returned for pre-season, he should have took a few months off and tried to return in November or December.

Be nice if he could follow up today with a another Hatty vs Leeds. Real nice

On 04/02/2026 at 10:06, GarnachoCheese said:

We need more posts like this with media unpacking Cole's production!! Was clearly the reason goal banged in 3 goals today!

Edited February 7Feb 7 by PhilH930

11 hours ago, The Boehly Babes said:

Is he statistically the best penalty taker in Premier League history yet?

He needs to score another 30 without missing to tie Matt Le Tissier on 47/48

Personally though the first thing I'd bring in if I was king of football (after getting rid of VAR) is making it so the player who won the penalty takes the penalty.

Edited February 8Feb 8 by bisright1