If it were possible I would have our under 21 coach and team go in place of Maresca and his team.

Jorgensen

 

Acheampong 

Disasi

Tosin

Samuels-Smith

 

KDH

Veiga

 

George

Carney

Mudryk

 

Guiu

Just now, axman2526 said:

Jorgensen

 

Acheampong 

Disasi

Tosin

Samuels-Smith

 

KDH

Veiga

 

George

Carney

Mudryk

 

Guiu

Nkunku has to play.  Can't be leaving him out league and European games

2 minutes ago, loz said:

Nkunku has to play.  Can't be leaving him out league and European games

More concerned with his history of injury mate.

I don't know but am guessing the pitch there probably is not very good.

Jorgensen
Acheampong Disasi Tosin Veiga
Casadei 
George Felix KDH Mudryk
Nkunku

 

 

It’s -8c apparently. What’s the deal with the league table? Do we need to win this one or can we really make big changes?

1 hour ago, JM7 said:

It’s -8c apparently. What’s the deal with the league table? Do we need to win this one or can we really make big changes?

Definitely qualified for the knockout rounds although don’t necessarily have a bye into the round of 16 yet.

Even if we did I’d say we should still stick with similarish teams as previous rounds rather than playing an entire u23 side. Could be important to keep the fringe players involved and with some match sharpness. 

Edited December 8, 20241 yr by Dubair

looks like Neto will be playing as he is banned for next PL game

                   Jorgensen

           Disasi  Tosin  Veiga

                KDH  Casedei

Neto       Felix  Nkunku      Mudryk

                       Guiu

Astana, a very modern city designed by an architect in Japan, and an amazing place to visit.

 Unfortunately the team was completely designed and built in Kazakhstan, and not so great. 0-4

Edited December 9, 20241 yr by TheBeard

just t o remind everyone this game kicks off at 3-30PM

19 hours ago, Dubair said:

Definitely qualified for the knockout rounds although don’t necessarily have a bye into the round of 16 yet.

Even if we did I’d say we should still stick with similarish teams as previous rounds rather than playing an entire u23 side. Could be important to keep the fringe players involved and with some match sharpness. 

If we beat shamrock rovers at home we are guaranteed a bye to the next round. 

I'm not taking anyone who might be needed in a PL game for the next 2 weeks. No one's being kept sharp by flying for 20 hours to play a game in a ice bowl. 

11h 20m+ one way flight time

7 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

If we beat shamrock rovers at home we are guaranteed a bye to the next round. 

I'm not taking anyone who might be needed in a PL game for the next 2 weeks. No one's being kept sharp by flying for 20 hours to play a game in a ice bowl. 

Totally on the same page here. No disrespect to Astana, it's just the circumstances around this game in particular, the hectic festive schedule in the Premier League and our own promising standing maybe putting a title run.

You just don't take players with recent injury problems like Nkunku or Neto to that place for a pretty much meaningless game. I wouldn't even risk Chucky for the sake of his career, but if he doesn't play here he won't play anywhere so there's that. Give Bettinelli his only game of the season. Casadei is suspended so play Tauriainen/Kellyman.

 

                         Bettinelli 

        Disasi - Tosin - Veiga/Chilwell

                 KDH - Tauriainen 

    George - Kellyman - Chucky - Mudryk

                              Guiu

39 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

If we beat shamrock rovers at home we are guaranteed a bye to the next round. 

I'm not taking anyone who might be needed in a PL game for the next 2 weeks. No one's being kept sharp by flying for 20 hours to play a game in an ice bowl. 

Meh , they could get injured in training too. The first 11 and 1-4 usual subs/rotation players I can see the argument for. 

The remainder could all do with some game time even if it’s against a poor team to build confidence and morale. Fernandez’s recent resurgence started against Fc Noah

 Maresca has added another 6 academy players to the B list making 11 academy players in the squad so I’d imagine up to half the team will be from the academy.

I don’t think guys like Neto or Nkunku will play as Maresca has already said there will be lots of rotation to the PL team over the next 5 weeks or so

Edited December 9, 20241 yr by 19seventyone

23 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

 

Jorgensen
Acheampong Disasi Tosin Veiga
Casadei 
George Felix KDH Mudryk
Nkunku

 

 

 

6 hours ago, POCH OUT said:

looks like Neto will be playing as he is banned for next PL game

                   Jorgensen

           Disasi  Tosin  Veiga

                KDH  Casedei

Neto       Felix  Nkunku      Mudryk

                       Guiu

Casadei is suspended.

Even with Neto suspended vs Spurs no way should we be taking him, Nkunku, Felix or anyone in and around the PL side on a long hall flight on a poor pitch with Brentford to come 3 days later. Leave as many at home as possible.

41 minutes ago, Dubair said:

Meh , they could get injured in training too. The first 11 and 1-4 usual subs/rotation players I can see the argument for. 

The remainder could all do with some game time even if it’s against a poor team to build confidence and morale. Fernandez’s recent resurgence started against Fc Noah

They could get injured crossing the street. But they are a lot more likely to get injured playing 1) in a game after they've just flown for 11 hours (remember we don't play our South Americans after an international break) and 2) in weather conditions colder than you'd see in any game in england. 

 

1 hour ago, 19seventyone said:

 Maresca has added another 6 academy players to the B list making 11 academy players in the squad so I’d imagine up to half the team will be from the academy.

I don’t think guys like Neto or Nkunku will play as Maresca has already said there will be lots of rotation to the PL team over the next 5 weeks or so

Have they released list B? List B is supposed to be only 5 players iirc.

I can't recall if under 21s are counted or not...like the EPL 25 man squad list.

47 minutes ago, Simplymo said:

 

Have they released list B? List B is supposed to be only 5 players iirc.

I can't recall if under 21s are counted or not...like the EPL 25 man squad list.

You can add as many under 21’s to list B as you like.Colwill is on list B too because of his age . Maresca added 6 more to the 5 already on the list so all 11 are……..Harrison Murray-Campbell, Kaiden Wilson, Tyrique George, Kiano Dyer, Harrison McMahon, Samuel Rak-Sakyi, Ato Ampah, Max Merrick, Josh Acheampong, Shumaira Mheuka  and Richard Olise

Id imagine Josh Acheampong will definitely start but haven’t seen enough of some of them to comment further

Edited December 9, 20241 yr by 19seventyone

3 minutes ago, 19seventyone said:

You can add as many under 21’s to list B as you like.Colwill is on list B too because of his age . Maresca added 6 more to the 5 already on the list so all 11 are……..Harrison Murray-Campbell, Kaiden Wilson, Tyrique George, Kiano Dyer, Harrison McMahon, Samuel Rak-Sakyi, Ato Ampah, Max Merrick, Josh Acheampong, Shumaira Mheuka  and Richard Olise

Good. 

Not sure I want Jorgensen going as ideally he replaces Sanchez. At most from the first team squad these are who I would like Maresca to take on that long flight to the -18 frozen pitch:

 

Jorgensen (or Sanchez preferably), Bettinelli, Tosin, Badiashile, Veiga, KDH, Carney, Mudryk, Madueke and Guiu.

Make the rest of the team and squad from the 11 19seventyone stated are in the B tier above.

5 hours ago, axman2526 said:

 

Casadei is suspended.

Even with Neto suspended vs Spurs no way should we be taking him, Nkunku, Felix or anyone in and around the PL side on a long hall flight on a poor pitch with Brentford to come 3 days later. Leave as many at home as possible.

Casadei did it on purpose, he doesn't want to play in that cold 😆

                     Jorgensen

           Disasi Tosin badiashale

                   Gusto   veiga

Madueke   Felix.   K D H  Mudryk

                        Nkuku

     

Edited December 10, 20241 yr by The Don Antonio

Weird one to prepare for. Astana's league season finished about a month ago (having started in March); since then they've only played the League Cup final (which they won) and a home draw against Vitória de Guimarães. Add to that freezing conditions and an 8,500-mile round trip, and a league game at home to Brentford 72 hours later. 

I'd be reluctant to risk anybody we're looking to start on Sunday, in particular Madueke who will presumably be starting over the suspended Neto. 

I'm with you lot now.

At first I thought send in the b team with a couple of "select" subs and the rest from the development squad. It would keep the momentum going.

Now though I'm more worried about injuries and would do the opposite. Mostly development squad members under 21 and a few "game changers" from the main squad tagging along as subs, players that can travel well and don't mind going. Just in case we need them.

 

Any news on the traveling squad yet?