5 minutes ago, forbzy said:

With Pochettino our form was gradually heading in the right direction. With Potter it was sinking quickly. remains to be seen which direction we go in with Liam.

It was gradual decline under Maresca, and what worries me is that we seem to be gathering speed as a steeper slope comes into view. Rosenior has his work cut out and desperately needs to hit the ground running. Hopefully he is smart enough to work out very quickly which players he needs to build around, and which he needs to side line. But even then he'll need the owners and SDs to back off and let him do his job without interference. I have a little bit of faith in Rosenior (based more on gut feel than anything else) but absolutely none in the owners and SDs capacity to wind their necks in.

Don’t Emegha and Rosenior have issues with the player throwing a bottle at his manager?

I wonder if he will be able to make a better start than Ruben Selles did at sheffield united?

17 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

It was gradual decline under Maresca, and what worries me is that we seem to be gathering speed as a steeper slope comes into view. Rosenior has his work cut out and desperately needs to hit the ground running. Hopefully he is smart enough to work out very quickly which players he needs to build around, and which he needs to side line. But even then he'll need the owners and SDs to back off and let him do his job without interference. I have a little bit of faith in Rosenior (based more on gut feel than anything else) but absolutely none in the owners and SDs capacity to wind their necks in.

Under Maresca last season we had an equally awful spell starting just before the festive fixtures. We managed 9 points from 10 league games starting with a draw at Everton, and only started to turn it around after that with a couple of wins against relegation fodder (Southampton/Leicester). We also got knocked out of FA Cup during that run.

What’s that, one win in 8 or 9. Pretty low bar for Rosenior to work from - just get a win would be a start.

Clubs a mess. Top to bottom, side to side. Good luck

29 minutes ago, PhilH930 said:

What’s that, one win in 8 or 9. Pretty low bar for Rosenior to work from - just get a win would be a start.

Clubs a mess. Top to bottom, side to side. Good luck

Charlton away will be tough as they will be up for it and they are better than some of the other lower division sides we have struggled against this season. Hopefully Rosenior can get off the mark with a win. But he would really gain some popularity early on if we could somehow find a way to turn over Arsenal in the League Cup semi.

Poor bugger has been sent to walk the plank thinking he is on the yellow brick road.

7 hours ago, petre ispirescu said:

Get past Charlton in the FA Cup first, get a good result against Arsenal in the first leg of the Carabao, get things done in the CL and win those six PL matches and build momentum for what is to come. If we somehow manage to f**k up some of those things, we are done for the season.

Agreed. I made the point elsewhere January can go some way in determining this guys fate. He should have taken this Fulham game because with a club headline statement that CL qualification is paramount this loss will be marked against him in absentia. All four competitions will be heavily affected in January. It's already a bad start in one of them and that performance last night would struggle to beat Charlton.

3 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Poor bugger has been sent to walk the plank thinking he is on the yellow brick road.

"We'll just call him Dorothy"

6 hours ago, markpitts said:

Don’t Emegha and Rosenior have issues with the player throwing a bottle at his manager?

Plenty of players and managers in the past have moved on from daft incidents, many worse than this so I dont think it would have any impact really.

9 hours ago, timetowaste said:

Getting there, hopefully Rosenior can teach this lot to grow up a bit.

If you count the Club World Cup you can stick Jackson in there too.

10 hours ago, petre ispirescu said:

Brentford, West Ham, Leeds and Burnley at home.

Palace and Wolves away.

Next six fixtures in the PL. Should be 18 points otherwise we are a complete joke.

We should have picked 3 points at Craven Cottage last night and we didn't. So I don't think we'll get 18 points from those fixtures. Brentford and Leeds at home are banana skins, West Ham and Burnley are fighting for their lives and possibly will set up defensively (1 or no points is our record against that type of set ups). Palace is playing better than us, so no much chance there. Wolves away should be a win, but we are capable of messing it up.

The positive is this is the worst Premier League since its inception. Every team bar maybe Arsenal and City are capable of going on a big winless streak. There is opportunity to climb the table, 4th isn't out of sight by any stretch of the imagination.

Gets me thinking which players in the current premier league do you enjoy watching and gets you out of your seat? I feel like there aren't any left. Maybe bias in picking Palmer and Estevao, but from the other teams I find it difficult to pick anyone. Maybe Foden but he's so inconsistent, Sakas a great player but a little boringly robotic. You could say Haaland is a generational striker but again I'd rather watch Harry Kane at least there was a chance he'd pull off the spectacular.

We've recently lost the likes of Hazard, De Bruyne, Salah, Kane and even Son. The Maverick is dead. Back in the day even the bottom half teams had a maverick we were spoiled with the likes of Zola, Gazza, Di Canio, Bergkamp, Le Tissier, Ginola, Juninho, Cantona, Okocha, McManaman, and Kinkladze etc all playing for different teams. Footballs so boring nowadays, makes being sh*t even worse.

58 minutes ago, RMH said:

We should have picked 3 points at Craven Cottage last night and we didn't. So I don't think we'll get 18 points from those fixtures. Brentford and Leeds at home are banana skins, West Ham and Burnley are fighting for their lives and possibly will set up defensively (1 or no points is our record against that type of set ups). Palace is playing better than us, so no much chance there. Wolves away should be a win, but we are capable of messing it up.

If we can't win home matches against mid table and bottom half clubs, what is the point of this project and managerial change anymore? And Palace look a bit off lately and could be without Guehi soon. 18 points from the next 6 PL matches is a must as all the other clubs around us will drop points as they either have a difficult schedule or they play against eachother.

Newcastle have climbed from 14th to 6th off the back of 3 straight wins ... everything is so tight this season that you don't even need to do that much to get into contention for the CL.

Brentford are currently in the CL places ... the same Brentford that lost their manager and both their best forwards last summer LOL.

It's a low bar this year for sure ... and we are currently so dire that this might not even help us ffs ...

"In terms of tactics, formations and systems, that's not the most important thing. The most important thing for me is intensity, running, spirit, quality and you can do that in many different ways in football."

Liam Rosenior.

4 minutes ago, OTL said:

"In terms of tactics, formations and systems, that's not the most important thing. The most important thing for me is intensity, running, spirit, quality and you can do that in many different ways in football."

Liam Rosenior.

He's f**ked with our squad then LOL

15 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Newcastle have climbed from 14th to 6th off the back of 3 straight wins ... everything is so tight this season that you don't even need to do that much to get into contention for the CL.

Brentford are currently in the CL places ... the same Brentford that lost their manager and both their best forwards last summer LOL.

It's a low bar this year for sure ... and we are currently so dire that this might not even help us ffs ...

Add losing Norgaard and their keeper Flekken on top of hiring someone who's never managed before. Surely the £1 billion team can finish ahead of them.

There's a lot in the press this morning about Rosenior having to first deal with ill-discipline. But I don't know how on earth you go about coaching international footballers not to tug someone's shirt or go flying studs first into someone's knee or whatever stupid things they come up with. Maybe hypnotherapy is worth a try?

I sort of feel that the red cards are just a symptom of not being very good as a team/squad in the first place.

I'm not remotely angry about any of this anymore, but last nights result was really rather depressing. We're the joint second best team in West London. At least we can still laugh a QPR, for now.

1 hour ago, DarkMata said:

The positive is this is the worst Premier League since its inception. Every team bar maybe Arsenal and City are capable of going on a big winless streak. There is opportunity to climb the table, 4th isn't out of sight by any stretch of the imagination.

Gets me thinking which players in the current premier league do you enjoy watching and gets you out of your seat? I feel like there aren't any left. Maybe bias in picking Palmer and Estevao, but from the other teams I find it difficult to pick anyone. Maybe Foden but he's so inconsistent, Sakas a great player but a little boringly robotic. You could say Haaland is a generational striker but again I'd rather watch Harry Kane at least there was a chance he'd pull off the spectacular.

We've recently lost the likes of Hazard, De Bruyne, Salah, Kane and even Son. The Maverick is dead. Back in the day even the bottom half teams had a maverick we were spoiled with the likes of Zola, Gazza, Di Canio, Bergkamp, Le Tissier, Ginola, Juninho, Cantona, Okocha, McManaman, and Kinkladze etc all playing for different teams. Footballs so boring nowadays, makes being sh*t even worse.

Whilst there is definitely a paucity in quality when it comes to players, I confess that i do enjoy watch Newcastle at home. There is always a proper atmosphere there. There are limited players but as a collective they run their hearts out and try their all for their manager. I am not sure if enjoyment is the right word or whether it is just jealousy. After our recurring debacle i switched over to watch their game against Leeds. They could easily have lost it and then snatched it at the death. But it was great entertainment and would have been with the result going either way.

16 minutes ago, Snedger said:

There's a lot in the press this morning about Rosenior having to first deal with ill-discipline. But I don't know how on earth you go about coaching international footballers not to tug someone's shirt or go flying studs first into someone's knee or whatever stupid things they come up with. Maybe hypnotherapy is worth a try?

I sort of feel that the red cards are just a symptom of not being very good as a team/squad in the first place.

I'm not remotely angry about any of this anymore, but last nights result was really rather depressing. We're the joint second best team in West London. At least we can still laugh a QPR, for now.

Quite easy, they need to know theres actual consequences for their actions, drop them for stupid red cards, fine them/drop them for stupid unnecessary bookings etc.

Maresca let them away with anything, they knew there was no consequences to anything, even playing poorly for weeks wasnt a problem.

13 minutes ago, Snedger said:

There's a lot in the press this morning about Rosenior having to first deal with ill-discipline. But I don't know how on earth you go about coaching international footballers not to tug someone's shirt or go flying studs first into someone's knee or whatever stupid things they come up with. Maybe hypnotherapy is worth a try?

I sort of feel that the red cards are just a symptom of not being very good as a team/squad in the first place.

I'm not remotely angry about any of this anymore, but last nights result was really rather depressing. We're the joint second best team in West London. At least we can still laugh a QPR, for now.

The foul is the foul. A fitter, sharper regime and everyone is on their toes, every player is on the front foot, have that extra half a yard where the true elite (not the gaslit) live. Enzo leading the continual complaints and haranguing the referee afterwards for what was a clear prevention of a goalscoring opportunity is more ill-disciplined than anything. But this is the VC, Egbhali's boy. Is LR really going to sort this level of ill discipline out with this group? Once they're all fully refreshed, had the old morning glory with their respective wives and then ambled their way into training when they are ready, of course.

Let's see what Rosenoir can do with Gittens. That's the litmus test for me. Does if the mana management skills to get the best out of his players.

34 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

Let's see what Rosenoir can do with Gittens. That's the litmus test for me. Does if the mana management skills to get the best out of his players.

Unless he's a relative of Merlin and can perform magic the best he can do is put him in the bomb squad.

2 hours ago, OTL said:

"In terms of tactics, formations and systems, that's not the most important thing. The most important thing for me is intensity, running, spirit, quality and you can do that in many different ways in football."

Liam Rosenior.

This give me a little hope. He wants to play football with intensity and wants a fast paced game. Hopefully the dull pass pass sh*te is over hopefully!!