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How many talented players we have out on loan, and so many of them are making a mark in their respective clubs.

 

Read a blog this morning while drinking my coffee and I was amazed, someone at the club is afterall looking at the bigger picture but it remains to see if we will ever see them in a blue shirt.

 

Kenneth Omeruo, 19, Defender

 

African Champion, one of the most interesting individual players of the tournament and has surely now catched the eyes of some big clubs out there, a PL loan move next?

 

Thibaut Courtois, 20, Goalkeeper.

 

One of the most promising young goalkeepers around and would be ready even now to step in for Petr Cech if he had too, there is noone in his age group nearly as experienced as him. Only an idiot would let him go as a part of the deal for a striker (which are being reported in the media)

 

Romelu Lukaku, 19, Forward.

 

More goals then Torres in less Premier League starts, ready to lead the line for a European club.

 

Kevin de Bruyne, 21, Midfield

 

One of the most exciting offensive players in Bundesliga this season, great solo goal this weekend and has been forced to step-up and take responsibility somewhat in Weder.

 

Jeffrey Bruma, 21, Defender

 

Regular starter for Hamburg, managed this weekend to go to Dortmund with his team and win 4-1, not many defenders that have managed that.

 

Wallace, 18, Right Back

 

Already won the Brazilian league as a regular, bombs down the right flank and would be easy to just compare him with Rafael.

 

Nathaniel Chalobah, 18, Midfield/Defender

 

The most promising player to come forward since John Terry, only 18 but the lad is dominating in the midfielde for Watford and they could very well be a PL team soon.

 

Josh McEachran, 19, Midfield

 

Our hope of our own Jack Wilshere, havent really hit it off yet like we would have hoped but he is still making the difference in M'boro who also hope to get a PL promotion.

 

Lucas Piazón, 19, Midfield

 

Loaned to Malaga, played a cup game against Barcelona so far. Registered to their CL squad and could very well go from playing in the reserves for us to play CL against Europes best.

 

The Vitesse loanees:

 

Patrick van Aanholt, 22, Left Back

 

Gaël Kakuta, 21, Midfield

 

Tomas Kalas, 19, Defender

 

Doing very well and not very far from the top, 5th in the league.

 

Theres plenty others out on loan as well: Amin Affane, Sam Hutchinson, Patrick
Bamford, Ulises Dávila, Jhon Pirez and Thorgan Hazard.

 

Should not be long until Islam Feruz joins the group.

 

 

 

Will be very interesting to see how the club manages these players and if it works out in the long term - could very well see most of them being sold and doing a great work elsewhere, most of these players could come in now and do a great job.

 

Who do you think we'll see next season? My bet is only on Kevin De Bruyne and im not even sure about that.

 

 

(Have to give credit for this to Erik Niva, Swedish blogger and TV- profile, in case he reads, doubt it though)

 

 

 

 



Posted

We do have an Erik on the site!  Good job you gave credit where credit is due!!

 

But this is an incredible list.

Posted

Our loanees could almost make up a decent top-flight football team on their own. 

 

I can't help but notice how few British players we have coming through. Whether that reflects more on the quality of our international scouting network or the dearth of good young British talent, I'm not so sure. Probably a bit of both.



Posted

How many talented players we have out on loan, and so many of them are making a mark in their respective clubs.

 

 

Thibaut Courtois, 20, Goalkeeper.

 

One of the most promising young goalkeepers around and would be ready even now to step in for Petr Cech if he had too, there is noone in his age group nearly as experienced as him. Only an idiot would let him go as a part of the deal for a striker (which are being reported in the media)

 

Exactly. Which is why he won't be a Chelsea player for much longer.

Posted

I can see the board's reasoning behind letting Courtois go, we don't need a goalkeeper in the short term, and we clearly need a world class forward.

 

It's completely illogical and will come back to bite us in time, but I can see their thinking. :rolleyes:

 

An extra ten million or so in Atleti's pocket would make far more sense, or failing that, a cast iron buy-back clause.

Posted

Our loanees could almost make up a decent top-flight football team on their own. 

 

It continues to be one of my main gripes and frustrations -

the way the club handle our youths “development†and this obviously isn’t

helped by the conveyor belt system we have with our managers. But our Academy

really does seem to be working and discovering some real gems – our two FA

Youth Cup triumphs in recent seasons bares testament to that and yet we

continue to send the youngsters out on loan rather than showing a bit of faith

in a few of them. It’s almost as if we are expecting them to be the finished

article at 19 and they will only get considered if they just happen to be the

next Messi. I know we are not alone in that but in the last few seasons our

youth has looked better than anyone’s – a bit like the Man Utd side in the

‘90’s and the West Ham side of ’99.

 

Maybe I am doing the club a dis-service and perhaps they do

have a system in place but I find myself once again asking WHO is making the

decisions? Whose job is it to monitor our loanee’s on a regular basis? WHO

makes the decision to (a) send them on loan (b) keep them on loan or bring them

back if they are looking ready for our first team squad? It clearly isn’t

Benitez or Holland. Reserve coach Dermot Drummy probably has enough on his

hands with his role without having to travel around the UK and Europe, the same

would be the case of Youth Coach Adi Viveash.  

 

Of the 2010 cup winning side only McEachran and possibly

Bruma now look like having any chance of a future with us and you wouldn’t put

money on either right now. Of last season’s successful side there is Kane, Ake,

Chalobah, Piazon and Feruz.  These

players will all be hopeful they have a chance but all the time we are signing

players, how realistic is it they will get that chance? Sure, you can use the

old cliché “if they are good enough, they are old enough†but I honestly don’t

think that applies at Chelsea. A youngster can go out on loan and for whatever

reason that move doesn’t work out, despite the fact they are clearly a real

talent. I would rather see a few of the youngsters actually PLAY for our first

11 and given some kind of a chance.

 

We can live in hope…………………………

 



Posted

I believe the main reason Kenneth Omeruo is on loan is a lack of UK work permit, playing in the ACoN should resolve this issue.

 

I think loans are decided by Dermot Drummy and Neil Bath, while we have a stack of scouts who watch all players out on loan.



Posted

We certainly do have an exciting future, I think we will have to go through this season and perhaps next season as a rebuilding process, Many players on high wages need to leave, Alot of them this summer which we can replace straight away.

Posted

Our loanees could almost make up a decent top-flight football team on their own. 

 

I can't help but notice how few British players we have coming through. Whether that reflects more on the quality of our international scouting network or the dearth of good young British talent, I'm not so sure. Probably a bit of both.

Our international network does appear to be effective but there's not necessarily a dearth of British talent out there, more of a much bigger pool to choose from internationally.

 

Back to initial post I would hedge my bets on Chalobah being the most likely to break through and carving out the most succesful career out of all of them.  Lukaku could be back next season and may be succesful, just maybe.

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If Lukaku goes out again next season i'm going to be very pissed off.

 

Out of the others I think:

Chalobah

Courtois

Wallace

Hazard jnr

 

are the ones most likely to make it here.

Posted (edited)

Certainly a list of players to get excited about. From what I've seen so far, KDB, Lukaku and Courtois could all come into the squad next season and make an instant impact. Chalobah has done fantastically well at Watford too by all accounts, but I've yet to see him play so cannot pass judgment.

 

Courtois is an interesting case, and to be honest I think using him as makeweight wouldn't be that bad an idea. Cech is still playing at a very high level, and at his age (30) he could comfortably play for many more years. Seeing as we signed him for about £5 million, if Courtois could be used to shave off around £20million of Falcao's transfer fee, then that would be great business in my eyes - we'd essentially be making a £15 million profit on a youth player whilst simultaneously acquiring arguably the world's best striker for less than his monetary market value. Also, our need for an upgrade at CF far outweighs any need for a new GK, thus making Courtois expendable in that sense.

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Posted

I'd rather have Courtois than Turnbull and Hilario.

Yes but you're not comparing like with like here.

 

In Courtois you have a top class keeper who isn't going to be happy as an understudy, unlike Hilario who has usually proved himself to be a reliable backup on the few occasions he has been called upon, and Turnbull whose appearance between the sticks inspires an extreme lack of confidence.

Posted

Speaking of which

 

Piazon, 19, who joined the Andalucians until the end of the season during the January window, said he already feels more at home in Spain than in England.

"I like the way football is played here, passing the ball without looking to hit it long," the Brazilian explained. "It is like Brazilian football. I feel more secure here."

"I am happy with the team and with myself," he added. "I played in the last game, I made my debut against Barcelona.

"I need to play a lot of minutes. I want to have the opportunity to start games, and I hope to get that in the coming games."

 

"Here almost everyone speaks the same language, it is easier," he said. "Also the fans are warmer, like in Brazil.

"Leaving was the best option. The atmosphere was difficult. There was a lot of pressure and it was difficult for a young player to be able to play. I want to play and have opportunities to grow."

 

From suckernet. I hope the lad knows he is only there for seasoning. I could see another year of loan for Lucas, probably to a different team. Otherwise, we might risk losing him if Malaga keep up their success.



Posted

Sounds to me that he cant handle it at a big club like Chelsea. If he feels that way being in the under 21's then he wont have a hope in hell coping with the first team pressure.


Posted

Whatever, we have so many no.10's in our squad anyway. Realistically speaking Lucas isn't going to make it here, 3rd choice at best. If he does well and wants to stay at Malaga then so be it, we can probably get £10 million + for him which is still a decent return on the investment.

Posted

Speaking of Courtois, he seems to have a very level head on his shoulders.  He was saying in an interview about how he is impressed that Chelsea continue to stay in touch with him every two or three weeks as it shows they still want to watch his development.  Stating something along the lines of "if they didn't care they wouldn't stay in touch.  They'd have just sent me on loan and that would have been it."

 

He also stated that he didn't want to come back and be an understudy, per the comments of Tommy Doc above.  He feels that Athletico have a good chance of making the CL this next season, and Chelsea have conveyed their interest in him getting some CL experience.

 

Reading between the lines, I think we'll see him at Athletico again next season, hopefully continuing to develop and getting CL experience.

 

A great problem to have, so long as we manage it properly.  But I'm not holding out for that.

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