but he also has a history of ruining relationships with players. 

He has a history of developing players who "would go to war for him" (I think it was Ibrahimovic said that) and who have shown great loyalty, commitment and even love for him,  

 

He has one or two instances of "ruining relationships".  At Madrid who are a bit of a law to themselves.  Name ex-Chelsea, Porto, Inter players who have had anything bad to say about him

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I don't understand what's the big fuss really. Hazard opened his mouth to the media and said certain stuff he shouldn't have said, it was critical in a way (regardless what jose said). Now Jose has to respond and responds in a sort of harsh way. Yes Jose was harsh but surely hazard should know better not to provide words which could serve as ammunition to the media and the fact that Jose isn't a manager to just keep quiet after comments like that.

Yes he was harsh but why even give an opportunity for him to be harsh in the first place?

For the comments on the falling out with Ronaldo and madrid, come on that guy is a tw@t and he will fall out with anyone except pepe and ramos.

According to some, players can perform, act and say whatever they want and the coach must keep saying sweet nothings in their ear...Jose has said so many positive things about hazard all season, now he dares say something critical and he's out of order etc...one would think a man with his man-management record, barring a few egos at Madrid, has been second to none...if hazard is too precious to take a bit of rightful criticism for his performance, then no one is bigger than the club and he can try his luck elsewhere...won't achieve his potential if he thinks he's always in the right

I'm not convinced this was a conversation best having in public - due to the media waiting to get their summer stories going - but if Mourinho wants to be inundated with questions about Eden - then so be it.  I'd be more concerned if he had said this after the season - at this point there are 2 games left to play which gives Eden a chance to respond positively on the pitch, rather than go away for the summer and mull it over.

 

I'm sure the timing may have a little to do with the PFA award as well - sometimes a reminder that they've achieved nothing yet when a team hasn't brought home any silverware can be neccessary.

 

Overall with Hazard, I think we are still in the process of trying to create a strong emotional tie with the club.  Obviously he is a top talent, and could have had his pick of European clubs when he transferred 2 years ago - but our Champions League win helped secure the deal.  We need to find a way to help him from being distracted by other clubs - obviously getting him to buy into Mourinho's 'team first' approach is the first step and shifting some of his fantastic arrogance towards the team rather than himself - but I really believe that the locking down his brother long term (who appears to be developing very nicely) could give us an advantage that no other club can match.

no one is bigger than the club

That includes Jose right?.

What's with all the insulting? So unnecessary, I understand it's a heated topic over Hazard but we really don't need to start calling each other fools and idiots and undermining peoples knowledge because we think there opinion sucks.

is it possible that there are some cultural issues at play here?  we've had the issue with Lukaku and some issues about Hazard's commitment - is it possible that there's something in the Franco-Belgian approach that doesn't chime well with Jose?

 

as others have pointed out tonight you often hear players say they'd die for Mourinho but maybe they need to get him and his passion for the game for that to work out well

Seriously though, anyone doubting Jose needs their head examined.

 

Mourinho is trying to turn this kid into a winner and he just may not mature enough yet to realise it. This is probably why Jose rarely bothers with too many young players, because he wants a solid, focused professional who is a bit older, wiser, focused, and willing to die for the cause. He doesn't have time to sit and massage the egos, or hold their hand every step of the way. If you are not driven enough to do everything (for your no doubt crazily strict boss), you don't belong at Chelsea.

 

You should keep your head down, do what the bosses say and don't make silly remarks about tactics that can be twisted by the f**king press.

 

This is a sink or swim moment for Hazard,   I suspect Jose is giving him a gentle warning.

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is it possible that there are some cultural issues at play here?  we've had the issue with Lukaku and some issues about Hazard's commitment - is it possible that there's something in the Franco-Belgian approach that doesn't chime well with Jose?

 

as others have pointed out tonight you often hear players say they'd die for Mourinho but maybe they need to get him and his passion for the game for that to work out well

Ssssshh don't let the the FA know Jose is racilist against Belgians otherwise he could be in trouble.

That includes Jose right?.

Yes, but he's the one in charge, not Eden

My two cents

Hazard should keep his mouth shut, Jose shouldn't be drawn in on it.

Edited May 2, 201412 yr by Bobbywoodhogan

THOU SHALL NOT DOUBT MOURIHNO!

Why?

Cole terry Cah Iva Dave

Possibly terry wasn't fit enough and cole being played next to him was supposed to be insurence. If anyone is really to blame go for cole, knowingly playing inside of terry on the first goal and obviously trying to compensate for terry not being 100%

Otherwise we (JM) could have fielded this side

Schhh

Cole cah Iva Dave

Rambo David

Will Oscar hazard

Torres

Who knows how the tie ends up then...but certainly we have right to question JM and his selections on the chelsea team sheet that day.

Of course, but in the long run he is the right man.

Of course, but in the long run he is the right man.

What do you mean in the long run Zola ?

Once we get the transfers in and hit the ground running in September

Seriously though, anyone doubting Jose needs their head examined.

 

Mourinho is trying to turn this kid into a winner and he just may not mature enough yet to realise it. This is probably why Jose rarely bothers with too many young players, because he wants a solid, focused professional who is a bit older, wiser, focused, and willing to die for the cause. He doesn't have time to sit and massage the egos, or hold their hand every step of the way. If you are not driven enough to do everything (for your no doubt crazily strict boss), you don't belong at Chelsea.

 

You should keep your head down, do what the bosses say and don't make silly remarks about tactics that can be twisted by the f**king press.

 

This is a sink or swim moment for Hazard,   I suspect Jose is giving him a gentle warning.

 

Zola - hit the nail on the head. Jose wants 11 winners on the field.  He doesn't want people who simply want to enjoy a game - they've got to be committed to winning. Nothing wrong with that imo - that's the difference between decent teams and great teams; good players and great players

Once we get the transfers in and hit the ground running in September

I agree but it seems no one wants to address the terry being 100% and his resulting decisions in the team selection.

Zola - hit the nail on the head. Jose wants 11 winners on the field. He doesn't want people who simply want to enjoy a game - they've got to be committed to winning. Nothing wrong with that imo - that's the difference between decent teams and great teams; good players and great players

Fair enough. Just think he's ending up being the scapegoat- IMO it might be cole, terry, or JM could put it on his shoulders. In reality we've been a bit unlucky...cech out, cup-tied players,etc.

Next season no doubt the coaches job will be made easier. Everyone we have in now and those returning from loans along with the summer acquisitions will be available for all comps and we will essentially end up with two full starting 11's

No excuse though we should win everything 14/15!

Not sure he got the team right either, but it wasn't why we lost...can't legislate for players making basic mistakes...hazard letting his man get to the back post unchallenged twice and Eto'o making a stupid tackle in the area

Jose showing tough love to Hazard. Not a big deal. Its important to keep his feet on ground because no one is bigger than club!!

I think the team was put out with percentages in mind, Jose knew Hazard wasn't full fit, Terry wasn't fully fit so he couldn't take risks with other players that were less thn 100% that ruled out Oscar as he has been strugling with a hip problem and I'm not sure Jose felt Shurrle was fully fit which is why he was a bit late to come on.

 

Hazard did make mistakes defensively and I don't doubt that was made worse with his fitness levels not being as we'd have wanted in a match of this importance.

 

I'm sure there's no big problem between Eden and Jose, they've both had a little spout and are both grown ups, Hazards tracking back is miles better than Matas was and I'm pretty sure Jose is usually happy enough with it...he'll be flying when we have a striker good enough to take defenders minds off him and make it hard for them to double and treble up.

 

It was strange team selection but only really in the case of Dave, he done ok and the bigger worry in midfield on the day for me turned out to be both Luiz and Ramires.

 

The manager likely (and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt here) chose his best eleven with the gameplan he had in mind and the available players...but for a freak goal and a very experienced player giving away a stupid penalty it might today be being touted as another masterclass.

 

Next season maybe there will be less excuses if we get so easily turned over, this season we should be singing his praises for what has nearly been.

Exactly chippy...save the real judgement for next season

Ssssshh don't let the the FA know Jose is racilist against Belgians otherwise he could be in trouble.

loooool Not the FA drama plzzz

In case you guys wanted to giggle at a couple of Americans arguing about Chelsea.  The hobbes guy is a scouser.

 

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/133728-Premier-League-2013-14?p=6630085&viewfull=1#post6630085

Hazard isn't the only one who has received public criticism this season. The strikers, the defense when we couldn't defend set pieces earlier in the season, De Bruyne. Mourinho isn't stupid, he is testing the players. The defense took the criticism well, as did Ba and Eto'o to a certain extent. De Bruyne wasn't mentally strong enough to deal with Mourinho's criticism and then left. Hazard now has to prove he is mentally strong enough to cope with a bit of criticism the same way many Chelsea players before him have.