He's paying the price for failure and for not having a strong enough track record to buy him another season. Yes the Barca boys deserve a huge amount of criticism and should probably be out too, but Pellegrino is simply not a top manager. He never has been and he never will be.

They wanted Pep, they still want Pep and they may well eventually get Pep because that's where their aspirations lie. Until they get him, any manager will be subject to the same treatment Pellegrino gets.

That's not the point I am making. I agree they wanted a Pep and I agree that he will be sacked but I don't agree that he deserves to be sacked a you said. When only last season he delivered a league and cup double.

That's not the point I am making. I agree they wanted a Pep and I agree that he will be sacked but I don't agree that he deserves to be sacked a you said. When only last season he delivered a league and cup double.

 

Have to agree to disagree, but he's gone and the fact that they've underperformed compared to last year is enough to see him gone. It's just modern football but I can see why some might think he doesn't deserve it. 

Have to agree to disagree, but he's gone and the fact that they've underperformed compared to last year is enough to see him gone. It's just modern football but I can see why some might think he doesn't deserve it.

We will have to cause I think a lot of it is down to the players and I think winning a double the year before should allow him one more season. When we sacked Ancelotti that was worse than this but still very similar in many ways and we were wrong to sack Carlo at the time.

On another note Gary Caldwell new Wigan boss, WTF?

I don't think it's been rotation for the sack of it, but I don't think he has the same level of trust Jose has in his first choice 11.

Thats really interesting, two sides to non rotation.

Pellegrini knew last season what the issues with his squad were but in the summer he spent a lot of money on poor players who did not enhance the squad.

I’m not a fan of sacking a manager who won the title the year before but to be honest he won that title due to Liverpool choking and that was a Liverpool side who conceded goals for fun while we didn’t have a striker.

Do they trust him to bring in the ‘right’ players next season or do they think enough is enough since he was wasted about £50 odd million on duds?

There has been next to no progression this season both domestically and in Europe, the way football is just now there are more reasons to get rid of him than there are to keep him. Harsh maybe but very much realistic in terms of what City want to achieve.

Well to be fair he addressed both the issues the squad had, the lack of a dedicated DM (Fernando) and a centre back to partner Kompany instead of Demichelis (Mangala), they just both happened to be terrible. His other signings were basically just cover (Lampard, Sagna, Willy). They then panic-bought Bony due to of a lack of available alternatives because of Aguero's persistent injuries, Dzeko's horrible form and Pellegrini oddly not fancying Jovetic.

 

I say bring back Lescott and Barry!

You know sometimes Pellegrino just looks like an above average manager who had won nothing more significant than the Intertoto Cup before coming to this country and simply inherited a strong team.

Edited April 8, 201511 yr by Blue Daze

I think he's a decent manager who seems to specialise in building unfancied teams into sides which are competitive in the latter stages of Europe. Before it became clear that Mourinho was a serious option for us (and it wasn't just a cruel moment of temptation before his inevitable succession of Alex Ferguson) I thought he would be a good option for us.

 

Then again these were in the dark days of Benitez so it's possible my standards were lowered...

 

I would be interested to see where he goes next.

 

This made me laugh.

 

This made me laugh.

 

 

Spud - so we are note quite there yet, but i'd be interested in your season review for you lot.

 

What did you think going in to the season

 

Are you satisfied, what changes would you be looking to make for next season. Do you think pooch has done as well as any one could or has he made more mistakes etc 

Liverpool may have collapsed last season but everyone plays the same teams. It's about been the best over 38 games and City were last season. You could move fixtures around and it would look like City ran away with it. I'm not saying they won it convincingly last season but they won it because they were the best teams over 38 games not cause Liverpool collapsed.

Spud - so we are note quite there yet, but i'd be interested in your season review for you lot.

 

What did you think going in to the season

 

Are you satisfied, what changes would you be looking to make for next season. Do you think pooch has done as well as any one could or has he made more mistakes etc 

 

I'll post a more considered reply later (as I'm at work) but our season has been like climbing a hill and then climbing back down without getting to the top; we began poorly, picked up form so that we nearly challenged for a top four finish and then went off the boil (in the last few weeks); we are 'there or thereabouts' but not worrying anyone in terms of making the step to being a regular top four team.

Pellegrini knew last season what the issues with his squad were but in the summer he spent a lot of money on poor players who did not enhance the squad.

I’m not a fan of sacking a manager who won the title the year before but to be honest he won that title due to Liverpool choking and that was a Liverpool side who conceded goals for fun while we didn’t have a striker.

Do they trust him to bring in the ‘right’ players next season or do they think enough is enough since he was wasted about £50 odd million on duds?

There has been next to no progression this season both domestically and in Europe, the way football is just now there are more reasons to get rid of him than there are to keep him. Harsh maybe but very much realistic in terms of what City want to achieve.

The only transfers that was Pellegrini's were Demichels and that keeper they bought to keep Hart on his toes. Both of which have been good.

The director of football they got from Barcelona deals with the transfers and he's done a shocking job so far.

I will piss myself if City hire fsw...talk about guaranteeing slide into mediocrity

Liverpool may have collapsed last season but everyone plays the same teams. It's about been the best over 38 games and City were last season. You could move fixtures around and it would look like City ran away with it. I'm not saying they won it convincingly last season but they won it because they were the best teams over 38 games not cause Liverpool collapsed.

I hate to admit it, but there is a strong case that we fcuked it up just as much, if not more so than Liverpool...just look at the sh*te we lost too having wiped the floor with the title rivals

I hate to admit it, but there is a strong case that we fcuked it up just as much, if not more so than Liverpool...just look at the sh*te we lost too having wiped the floor with the title rivals

We did f**k up our own chances as did Liverpool but as I said its a 38 game season and the teams that beat us and Pool mostly deserved to. City beat more teams and got more points. It wasn't because two other teams f**ked up that they won it. It was that they were better than the other teams.

Real Madrid’s £2.3m 16-year-old wonderkid Martin Odegaard has been dropped from the club's B-team 'Castilla' because results drastically improve when he is not on the pitch.

 

There have been suggestions that other B-team players resented the fact that Odegaard was training with the first team three times a week and then starting Castilla games very much on a different wavelength to his team-mates.

 

Read somewhere else that Odegaard apparently refuses to train with reserves other than on matchdays, because of some clause in his contract that stipulates he has to train with the first team for a certain amount of time. And his team mates and coaches resent his attitude on the pitch and in training. 

 

He's still a ridiculous talent but unfortunately seems like another entitled little sh*t.

I think it's easy to point the finger at Pelligrin, but it's not entirely his fault.

 

Some performances from the players have been shocking.

 

Toure didn't start the season until October

 

Silva & Nasri have been in & out of form all season

 

Kompany has been poor by his standards

 

Aguero has struggled with fitness (not his fault)

 

Hart is not a great goalkeeper

 

Thats pretty much half his team who are not on top form all season.

 

The buys last summer were poor, not sure how much input Pelligrini has in that though.

 

I can see him being sacked, but I'm not sure it's totally deserved.

 

If that many players aren't performing that comes down to the manager not being good enough.

We did f**k up our own chances as did Liverpool but as I said its a 38 game season and the teams that beat us and Pool mostly deserved to. City beat more teams and got more points. It wasn't because two other teams f**ked up that they won it. It was that they were better than the other teams.

 

City went to Liverpools ground and bottled it like absolute chumps, a title deciding game. No one on the planet earth predicted we would go there with that team and actually win it. That gave City the oppertunity and to be fair to them they didn't end up choking.

 

But they only got that oppertunity because of us it was a vital boost to there title and the biggest factor to it. They had there chance at Anield and they blew it, due to that shocking Kompany clearance.

City went to Liverpools ground and bottled it like absolute chumps, a title deciding game. No one on the planet earth predicted we would go there with that team and actually win it. That gave City the oppertunity and to be fair to them they didn't end up choking.

But they only got that oppertunity because of us it was a vital boost to there title and the biggest factor to it. They had there chance at Anield and they blew it, due to that shocking Kompany clearance.

So? We all play the same teams as I said and if you have the most points at the end of that you deserve to win it. Saying teams blew it is disrespectful to the teams that beat the teams that apparently blew it. All I would say is City are yet to win a title convincingly.

Read somewhere else that Odegaard apparently refuses to train with reserves other than on matchdays, because of some clause in his contract that stipulates he has to train with the first team for a certain amount of time. And his team mates and coaches resent his attitude on the pitch and in training. 

 

He's still a ridiculous talent but unfortunately seems like another entitled little sh*t.

 

Maybe, but I think it's a case of poor management if anything.

So? We all play the same teams as I said and if you have the most points at the end of that you deserve to win it. Saying teams blew it is disrespectful to the teams that beat the teams that apparently blew it. All I would say is City are yet to win a title convincingly.

 

That's also just one perspective, the league isn't that blunt or simple, had we not of done the job at anfield it wouldn't have opened the hope gate for City, they wouldn't of went on to win all there remaining fixtures otherwise.

 

I am giving credit to them don't get me wrong, but they had help from us to win it that year, they bottled there chance.

Maybe, but I think it's a case of poor management if anything.

 

Could be. I was surprised to read it too, considering I've only read very good things written about his attitude before the move. But the kid obviously has a very good marketing team seeing how much hype he generated without doing a lot.

Pellegrini will go, and he deserves to. When Mancini was sacked, City's official statement said that it was the lack of 'holistic' development which led to Mancini's dismissal. Look at City this season: Poor showings in both domestic cups, a weak title defence and a characteristically limp effort in the CL knockout phase. Add to that the lack of youth development and yet more poor signings (I omit Bony from this as it's too early to judge him) and I simply don't see how Pellegrini will stay, given the reasoning behind Mancini's firing.

 

Simeone would be perfect for City, He'd give them some steel, keep the players motivated and would be able to find good signings for for relatively modest prices. Thankfully he's just signed a new deal, so who else can City realistically recruit that is better than Pellegrini? To be quite honest I can't think of anyone other than perhaps Jurgen Klopp, but I'm not convinced by him any more.

Edited April 8, 201511 yr by Celery1989

I get what Bobby is saying and it's hard to disagree with the facts.

I just feel City who had a far more equipped squad made hard work of what should have been a fairly straight forward title win.

We played the season with an over the hill Eto'o, Ba and Torres...we were never winning the league with that firepower, it's a testiment to Jose's managerial abillities that we got as close as we did looking back on it.

City have not built on last season one bit and that will be why he loses his job.