That's also just one perspective, the league isn't that blunt or simple, had we not of done the job at anfield it wouldn't have opened the hope gate for City, they wouldn't of went on to win all there remaining fixtures otherwise.

I am giving credit to them don't get me wrong, but they had help from us to win it that year, they bottled there chance.

But my point is it's a 38 game season the team with the most points deserves to win it regardless of what favours have been done for them. We could have beat Liverpool at Anfield months before and then they would have still been chasing City anyway.

I get what Bobby is saying and it's hard to disagree with the facts.

I just feel City who had a far more equipped squad made hard work of what should have been a fairly straight forward title win.

We played the season with an over the hill Eto'o, Ba and Torres...we were never winning the league with that firepower, it's a testiment to Jose's managerial abillities that we got as close as we did looking back on it.

City have not built on last season one bit and that will be why he loses his job.

As I said though City are yet to win a title convincingly so I do agree that they made hard work of it. They also rode their luck but to be fair all Champions do.

Yeah agreed with the last part, Pellegrini is a goner but I can't agree with some people that he deserves to go.

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Apparently Jack Wilshere is close to returning for Arsenal, i just don't see where he fits in Arsenal right now. Stats prove that without him they are a better team, i actually hope Wenger cocks up again and brings Wilshere straight back into the team.

To be quite honest I can't think of anyone other than perhaps Jurgen Klopp, but I'm not convinced by him any more.

 

Well he's definitely going to be easier to dislodge from Dortmund now than when he was Europe's hottest property and Dortmund were flying a couple of seasons ago.

 

In terms of top-class managers, Ancelotti seems to be the favourite but he is truly a world-class man manager and a brilliant presence; there are very few people better suited for the Real job than him, I think they'd be fools to get rid of him.

Simeone has just signed a new contract and seems very happy at the Vicente Calderon, Guardiola surely has no intention of leaving Bayern considering the quality of the team he is building there, José has repeatedly stated that he wants to stay at Chelsea for another decade and has built the best side in the league and I've mentioned Hiddink a couple of times but I don't think he is really considered a top-class manager anymore, and his recent record with the Dutch national team certainly won't convince anyone otherwise.

 

Who does that really leave other than Klopp and Benitez?

AVB 

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AVB 

 

Shockingly he's only 16/1 on Paddy Power, generally at 40s elsewhere.

 

Another interesting old codger option (alongside Hiddink) who could possibly (probably not) be coaxed out of their unimpressive exile in international football is Capello.

 

I'd be interested to know who the generally preferred option among the City fans is. They're not exactly spoilt for choice, although I say that assuming that Real wouldn't be stupid enough to let him go when I think we all know perfectly well that they are that stupid. (Although in that case, who becomes Real boss? Klopp? Zidane?)

Ancelotti definitely. I think Citys plan is simple anyway, that's why they seem to go out and spend on players in there primes, they can spend a big deal and remain in FFP they've proven that.

 

I think Pellegrini was there for short term success, so I can see him gone if they don't win the league by the end of the season. I'll be gutted if Carlo goes there they'll probably be unstoppable in there first season then come falling back down the next

 

We could have instantly spent a huge sum of money after Carlo's 2nd season here, but we didn't do that, we signed AVB and looked to the future. We didn't even sign a great deal of players, we signed Mata, Lukaku, Courtois then wasted the whole summer on Modric to end up with Raul Meireles. I think our philisophy is different to City, it is now than it used to be anyway. We have a lot of young players, I can't see us throwing money at our problems like they will, we will probably only sign 1 or 2 players in the transfer window at best.

AVB

Oh man I wish this would happen, I would have a field day with the city fans I know

But my point is it's a 38 game season the team with the most points deserves to win it regardless of what favours have been done for them. We could have beat Liverpool at Anfield months before and then they would have still been chasing City anyway.

As I said though City are yet to win a title convincingly so I do agree that they made hard work of it. They also rode their luck but to be fair all Champions do.

Yeah agreed with the last part, Pellegrini is a goner but I can't agree with some people that he deserves to go.

Sadly that's what it's become now at most top sides.

You get one year of success then a year later you don't keep up that standard then it tends only to go one way.

I think the big difference there is the majority of City fans we hear from either outside the stadiums or phoning up the radio shows tend to want him gone, compare that to us last season and it's night and day.

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Ancelotti definitely. I think Citys plan is simple anyway, that's why they seem to go out and spend on players in there primes, they can spend a big deal and remain in FFP they've proven that.

I think Pellegrini was there for short term success, so I can see him gone if they don't win the league by the end of the season. I'll be gutted if Carlo goes there they'll probably be unstoppable in there first season then come falling back down the next

We could have instantly spent a huge sum of money after Carlo's 2nd season here, but we didn't do that, we signed AVB and looked to the future. We didn't even sign a great deal of players, we signed Mata, Lukaku, Courtois then wasted the whole summer on Modric to end up with Raul Meireles. I think our philisophy is different to City, it is now than it used to be anyway. We have a lot of young players, I can't see us throwing money at our problems like they will, we will probably only sign 1 or 2 players in the transfer window at best.

Real still have a chance at the League and Champions League, winning one of those would probably keep Ancelotti his job

Strange how people think Pellegrini was brought in for instant sucess. No disrepect to him as a manager but when I think instant success his name doesn't come up. He's a long term manager and I would like to think City were well aware of that.

Guess we will find out come next season.

I wonder why there is so much focus on managers and not players. City are a very expensively-assembled team of (mainly) international standard players. There should reside in that team enough skill, knowledge, understanding and commitment to battle through difficult games. Possibly in spite of the system being played by the Manager.

It's more complicated than I've made it sound but, for example, if I followed QPR I'd be saying to the players 'great effort last night - where's that effort been all season?'.

Strange how people think Pellegrini was brought in for instant sucess. No disrepect to him as a manager but when I think instant success his name doesn't come up. He's a long term manager and I would like to think City were well aware of that.

Guess we will find out come next season.

 

When I think of long-term success, his name doesn't come up either.

Strange how people think Pellegrini was brought in for instant sucess. No disrepect to him as a manager but when I think instant success his name doesn't come up. He's a long term manager and I would like to think City were well aware of that.

Guess we will find out come next season.

Bringing in a 60 year old as manager just doesn't scream long term.

Granted most managers don't tend to last longer than 3 years nowadays at the bigger clubs but that doesn't stop them pretending there is a more long term goal in mind.

I wonder why there is so much focus on managers and not players. City are a very expensively-assembled team of (mainly) international standard players. There should reside in that team enough skill, knowledge, understanding and commitment to battle through difficult games. Possibly in spite of the system being played by the Manager.

It's more complicated than I've made it sound but, for example, if I followed QPR I'd be saying to the players 'great effort last night - where's that effort been all season?'.

Yes that's just what I was trying to get out. Why should the manager take the flack all the time and the players get off scot free.

When I think of long-term success, his name doesn't come up either.

But you're not the Man City board you're going on you're own opinion. City clearly hired Pellegrini for the long term initially, they wanted someone with a calming prescence for one and one without the Mancini type baggage.

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Bringing in a 60 year old as manager just doesn't scream long term.

Granted most managers don't tend to last longer than 3 years nowadays at the bigger clubs but that doesn't stop them pretending there is a more long term goal in mind.

Probably not at face value, no. 

 

Like has been mentioned already, they want Guardiola. They are pretty much just stalling until he's had a few years at Bayern and can tempt him when he's won everything there. Long term in this case is around 5 years, not 10+ years. Hiring a 60 year old manager with a good record of integrating youth, and still remaining competitive, to build a foundation for Guardiola to take over is long term even if it's not the same manager seeing it through. 

 

They could have gotten managers with a better record of winning things if all they wanted was instant success. 

Lets get things like the election, ISIS, poverty and hunger into perspective: it's 'Get Stevie to Wembley' night.

We'll look back on this, as old men, saying 'Ay, I were there when Stevie got THERE...'

Blackburn win and Brenda gets the sack

I hope he finds his wife in bed with Sammy Lee.

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Blackburn win and Brenda gets the sack

Whose sack?

John Henry's on his forehead

I hope he finds his wife in bed with Sammy Lee.

John Henry's on his forehead

Kin hell, you do make me laugh.

John Henry's on his forehead

haha, oustanding...

I will piss it if Liverpool get knocked out.