3 hours ago, brakeit said:

Why you try to be interesting ? Did i fu**** say that tell me ? Or you trying to be interesting, cause you are not.

Sorry but Costa was sick bad against Liverpool and Arsenal and denies us from 6 full points. Also denies from scoring more then 3 goals against Arsenal, thats the true.

If you don`t like its your problem. You can`t just praise one player when he is playing good, no one is above criticism.

And my critic for Costa is only for this 2 matches.

 

 

Against Arsenal it was costa who got above the defence to head against the bar, which caused tour first goal, and he caused the Arsenal defence problems all game. He should have passed at times, but I dont really have aproblem with our striker being greedy. To say he did nothing is blatantly bollocks.

23 minutes ago, dkw said:

Against Arsenal it was costa who got above the defence to head against the bar, which caused tour first goal, and he caused the Arsenal defence problems all game. He should have passed at times, but I dont really have aproblem with our striker being greedy. To say he did nothing is blatantly bollocks.

And the knock down to hazard before his goal too. Two assists apparently equals doing nothing in a game

On 03/02/2017 at 22:25, Floyd25 said:

They always talk sh*t, I read recently how Tibo hates the goalkeeping coach, an hour later he's quoted as saying he's very happy at Chelsea. Last season Fabregas was a rat, another nonsense story to disrupt and provoke, it's what they do best, they're vermin. 

Some articles I've read still say that about Fabregas. It's like no get your f**king facts right he was the first player to publicly back Jose.

45 minutes ago, dkw said:

Against Arsenal it was costa who got above the defence to head against the bar, which caused tour first goal, and he caused the Arsenal defence problems all game. He should have passed at times, but I dont really have aproblem with our striker being greedy. To say he did nothing is blatantly bollocks.

He also knocked it down for Hazard when Hazard went on his amazing run.

Just realised RMCM beat me to the punch. But in addition he also made some good defensive contributions too.

Edited February 9, 20179 yr by Bobbywoodhogan

22 minutes ago, RMCM said:

And the knock down to hazard before his goal too. Two assists apparently equals doing nothing in a game

I struggle to see how they are really assists. Yes Costa knocked it down on the half way line but that was all about Hazards amazing run and goal. The Costa header is not an assist, how the hell is someone taking a shot which hits the post and someone taps it in an assist. 

Im not saying Costa has been awful but that's well over the top.

He created the first chance with a good header that could have been a goal, If that went in people would be saying how great Costa was instead of saying he was a waste of space. Instead it hit the crossbar and came back out, setting up Alonso. That's still an assist. The second one was indeed all about Hazard's run, but Costa won the ball in the air and knocked it down to allow hazard to do that. Still an assist in my eyes. 

The first one is definitely not an assist. A deflection of a player or crossbar can't be classed as an assist no matter how you look at it.  

18 minutes ago, RMCM said:

He created the first chance with a good header that could have been a goal, If that went in people would be saying how great Costa was instead of saying he was a waste of space. Instead it hit the crossbar and came back out, setting up Alonso. That's still an assist. The second one was indeed all about Hazard's run, but Costa won the ball in the air and knocked it down to allow hazard to do that. Still an assist in my eyes. 

That first one is never an assist, it's a great header and very unlucky but his going for goal and Alonso did well to head in the rebound which could of gone anywhere. Your making out Costa set Alonso up on purpose. Might aswell say someone has a shot from 30yrds deflects of a player and goes in, great assist that. I haven't said he is a waste of space.

Again the second one is one of these pointless assists that people talk about like a 2yrd pass and someone else smacks it in from 30 yards.

7 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

The first one is definitely not an assist. A deflection of a player or crossbar can't be classed as an assist no matter how you look at it.  

According to fantasy football it is

Edited February 9, 20179 yr by STATS

39 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

Might aswell say someone has a shot from 30yrds deflects of a player and goes in, great assist that. I haven't said he is a waste of space.

Yes, thats also an assist. Assisting a goal means just that, you assisted in making the goal happn. It doesnt have to be a tap in to qualify as an assist

21 minutes ago, Xfaxtor said:

Yes, thats also an assist. Assisting a goal means just that, you assisted in making the goal happn. It doesnt have to be a tap in to qualify as an assist

It's not an assist. 

Why does everything in football now have to be so black and white, stats have ruined discussions about games. I dont care if its an "assist" or not, he played a part in 2 goals we scored, therefore didnt do nothing as stated. 

Edited February 9, 20179 yr by dkw

6 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

It's not an assist. 

Costa's header on goal was exceptional

He had to work hard to out jump the center-back and direct the cross goal bout with enough power 

You could say that considering the move and technique applied he was unlucky not to score, Cech didn't get close to it. 

Without this effort, application of movement and technique, will to get above his man the opportunity for Alonso to score doesn't exist. 

So the effort implemented by Costa resulted in the goal

for me this is more of an assist then some one who lays the ball of two yards, 30 yards from goal to see his team mate lash it in the top corner, but that is considered an assist.... and if you have ever ever quoted assist stats you include this in you're assumption

 

Conclusion - it was an assist. 

 

 

5 minutes ago, barak81 said:

Costa's header on goal was exceptional

He had to work hard to out jump the center-back and direct the cross goal bout with enough power 

You could say that considering the move and technique applied he was unlucky not to score, Cech didn't get close to it. 

Without this effort, application of movement and technique, will to get above his man the opportunity for Alonso to score doesn't exist. 

So the effort implemented by Costa resulted in the goal

for me this is more of an assist then some one who lays the ball of two yards, 30 yards from goal to see his team mate lash it in the top corner, but that is considered an assist.... and if you have ever ever quoted assist stats you include this in you're assumption

 

Conclusion - it was an assist. 

 

 

It's all included in the silly assist stats otherwise there will be a panel on every single goal which is stupid so it's easier just to give everything as an assist. That doesn't make it an assist though just because a stat website decides so.

It also dosent make it an assist because how good the header is. The cross was just as good. 

Cant blame people for being biased though.

3 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

It's all included in the silly assist stats otherwise there will be a panel on every single goal which is stupid so it's easier just to give everything as an assist. That doesn't make it an assist though just because a stat website decides so.

It also dosent make it an assist because how good the header is. The cross was just as good. 

Cant blame people for being biased though.

 

 

I have a question

 

In 2003 Jesper Gronkjar (sorry for spelling) scored a pretty important goal for us, it came from the right wing and instantly most people around me and most pundits said it was a cross gone wrong. Seeing as he could never really get a decent ball in to the box this is probably true, so assuming he meant it as a cross is it any less of a goal, of course not, the same should apply when someone meaning to go for goal but who's effort directly results in a goal for a team mate. For me Costa's supperb work resulted in a goal for us, thats what matters. 

3 minutes ago, barak81 said:

 

 

I have a question

 

In 2003 Jesper Gronkjar (sorry for spelling) scored a pretty important goal for us, it came from the right wing and instantly most people around me and most pundits said it was a cross gone wrong. Seeing as he could never really get a decent ball in to the box this is probably true, so assuming he meant it as a cross is it any less of a goal, of course not, the same should apply when someone meaning to go for goal but who's effort directly results in a goal for a team mate. For me Costa's supperb work resulted in a goal for us, thats what matters. 

No one knows if it was a cross gone wrong and it was a goal. So most people just see it as a goal. Costa's was totally different, shot which hit the bar and Alonso tapped in. I think there totally different.

 

7 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

No one knows if it was a cross gone wrong and it was a goal. So most people just see it as a goal. Costa's was totally different, shot which hit the bar and Alonso tapped in. I think there totally different.

 

Costa sent me a text to tell me it was the only way we could score for him to get the ball to Alonso of the bar... so there 

 

EDIT - also what diffrence does it make if we know if meant it or not? Jespers goal i mean? 

Edited February 9, 20179 yr by barak81

12 minutes ago, barak81 said:

Costa sent me a text to tell me it was the only way we could score for him to get the ball to Alonso of the bar... so there 

 

EDIT - also what diffrence does it make if we know if meant it or not? Jespers goal i mean? 

I just think there different scenarios. Jespers went through and was a goal whatever. Whether he meant it or not doesn't really matter. Alot of Willians free kicks were similar last year.

I just don't think anyone hitting the bar, post or whatever and then another player putting in the rebound is an assist. Maybe I come across abit strong. It's nothing against Costa and his header which had superb power and accuracy was a cracker. I guess I'm just a tightwad when it comes to assists. 

Costa is always a menace to Arsenal, he just got a little greedy at times.

 

An assist according to FIFA's world cup technical report

 

'an assist is credited to a player for passing or crossing the ball to the scorer. It may also be awarded to a player whose shot rebounds (off a defender, goalkeeper or goalpost) to a teammate who scores'

 

39 minutes ago, RMCM said:

An assist according to FIFA's world cup technical report

 

'an assist is credited to a player for passing or crossing the ball to the scorer. It may also be awarded to a player whose shot rebounds (off a defender, goalkeeper or goalpost) to a teammate who scores'

 

I don't think I have enough money to get that changed 

2 hours ago, Ernie_blue said:

It's not an assist. 

Aren't you the bloke who said earlier (might have been in a different thread) that you didn't approve of statistics as you could see for yourself  and didn't need anyone else to tell you what was good?

1 hour ago, yorkleyblue said:

Aren't you the bloke who said earlier (might have been in a different thread) that you didn't approve of statistics as you could see for yourself  and didn't need anyone else to tell you what was good?

Not quite like that but yes. I don't like certain stats because they can be manipulated to any way you like.

If someone uses assists as prove Matic is more creative and pushes forward go for it but when you look at his assists and you see half of them are just simple passes then you notice his not the new found creative genius.

22 hours ago, comtrend said:

For me Aubameyang would be at the top of the list, if Costa were to leave. 

Yes Aubameyang! I don't think he will reunite with Klopp, especially if Liverpoop don't get Champions League.

"Sometimes I might go overboard, whereas there are others who, yes, they want to win, but if they don’t it’s no big deal for them. I’m different. I want to win and always have done since I was small. I don’t know if it’s in my blood or just my personality."

This is the difference between Costa and a lot of players, Hazard in particular doesn't seem to have this drive

5 hours ago, TheChelseaBlues said:

"Sometimes I might go overboard, whereas there are others who, yes, they want to win, but if they don’t it’s no big deal for them. I’m different. I want to win and always have done since I was small. I don’t know if it’s in my blood or just my personality."

He's such a liar...

Small? I'm sure he was born fully formed.