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Diego "the guv'nor" Costa

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4 minutes ago, stevo said:

Just read that they maybe looking a Benteke as a replacement. ThTs a serious downgrade. Lukaku is sh*t as well. We got rid of him for a reason. Hope the club hangs onto him till summer. 

No way that would happen. Not sure about Lukaku but 100% rather him than Benteke. He has found his level at Palace and will still struggle to make the side every week.

4 hours ago, Nibs said:

No way that would happen. Not sure about Lukaku but 100% rather him than Benteke. He has found his level at Palace and will still struggle to make the side every week.

 

Benteke? I will be seriously worried if we consider him.

6 hours ago, bola said:

just a noob question regarding contract, says diego's contract ends till the end of 2018 earning 185k a week.. if he's to sign a new 4 years contract now worth 200k a week, does it mean the 200k a week comes into effect immediately, overwrite the previous contract?  

Contracts basically have a clause that they may be renegotiated by mutual consent for example the player wants to go club wants to sell they obviously mutually agree to terminate the current contract Igbo it was binding they would have to keep paying him and he would have to keep playing or be in breach, same as renegotiating a new contract it overrides current stipulations at it is by mutual consent 

If 200k/week will make Costa happy for the next 4 years, I say just give him the contract next week. It's similar to the Sanchez situation at Arsenal, pay rise and contract renew will save everyone loads of time and money down the track.

Sadly football Contracts are no longer treated with respect by either party ............theres not much loyalty anymore........

$$$$$  - a lot of football club managers make false promises to young promising players going out on loan, by saying there gonna play them, if they sign an extension to their contract........the clubs only do that, because they don't want the player leaving on a free transfer.

$$$$$ - some players on big fat massive wages, don't even give there all on the pitch ( I.e : last season at Chelsea! ) 

18 hours ago, DonAntonio said:

Sorry just don't buy it 1.Because its the Sun and 2. He wanted a move back to Athleti in the summer, they wouldn't even pay him 100k so it makes no sense all of a sudden it's all about the money, he is on 185k according to some 150k according to others, if 150 sure put him up to 185 even 200k he is worth it, but, I think it's harder to win a game without Hazard than Diego and Hazard is on 200. 

I disagree. The Sun is just as reliable (or unreliable lol) as any other news report put there at the moment. The stories at the moment are all about him moving to China, which shows money is likely a motivation in this. We had Hazard before Costa came and didn't win the league, the first year Costa was here we then win it. Although Hazard is important to the team Costa is the one that can bully a defense and drag us to a title i believe. 

So Costa is available to play this weekend and Conte has said the striker wants to stay at Chelsea. Conte is more likely to avoid a question than lie if Costa did actually want to leave.

 

Could it be this whole thing was made up by the media and Costa did actually have a back injury? Surely the media wouldn't make things up to sell stories.. SURELY NOT?!

2 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

So Costa is available to play this weekend and Conte has said the striker wants to stay at Chelsea. Conte is more likely to avoid a question than lie if Costa did actually want to leave.

 

Could it be this whole thing was made up by the media and Costa did actually have a back injury? Surely the media wouldn't make things up to sell stories.. SURELY NOT?!

"Yea so that whole thing about Costa wanting to leave? Turns out he really did just have a back injury. He has no interest in going to China and he's ready to go again this weekend."

-The Media

 

ffs

How does everyone think the fans will receive costa if he plays on Sunday?

Personally if I was there I would be singing his name. But curious if everyone else feels the same? 

19 minutes ago, benjsross said:

How does everyone think the fans will receive costa if he plays on Sunday?

Personally if I was there I would be singing his name. But curious if everyone else feels the same? 

Anything media driven needs to taken with a bucket of salt.

sing up for DC!

12 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

I disagree. The Sun is just as reliable (or unreliable lol) as any other news report put there at the moment. The stories at the moment are all about him moving to China, which shows money is likely a motivation in this. We had Hazard before Costa came and didn't win the league, the first year Costa was here we then win it. Although Hazard is important to the team Costa is the one that can bully a defense and drag us to a title i believe. 

Look at the timing we got hazard, season after we won the CL and had finished 6th in the league, we got Benitez as an interim then Mou was rebuilding his first year we dinhsed third, hazard has eto and Torres as strikers, costa was also up top last season when we finished 10th, hazard was carrying an unjustly last year, when hazard doesn't play we don't play, if hazard was on form last year we wouldn't have finished 10th, also  the way we play now with hazard up top we have shown we can win without a striker, Costa is crucial no doubt and he wins games but hazard is the engine of the attack, I'd rather lose costa than hazard any day 

Edited by DonAntonio

8 hours ago, DonAntonio said:

Look at the timing we got hazard, season after we won the CL and had finished 6th in the league, we got Benitez as an interim then Mou was rebuilding his first year we dinhsed third, hazard has eto and Torres as strikers, costa was also up top last season when we finished 10th, hazard was carrying an unjustly last year, when hazard doesn't play we don't play, if hazard was on form last year we wouldn't have finished 10th, also  the way we play now with hazard up top we have shown we can win without a striker, Costa is crucial no doubt and he wins games but hazard is the engine of the attack, I'd rather lose costa than hazard any day 

2 games don't make a season. Chelsea wouldn't be top with Hazard leading the line.

On 20/1/2017 at 04:39, DonAntonio said:

Contracts basically have a clause that they may be renegotiated by mutual consent for example the player wants to go club wants to sell they obviously mutually agree to terminate the current contract Igbo it was binding they would have to keep paying him and he would have to keep playing or be in breach, same as renegotiating a new contract it overrides current stipulations at it is by mutual consent 

 

What about manager's contract payoff?? For example, jose's contract.. he still had another 3 years or so when he was sacked, did the club pay all of his remaining salary outright or did the club only pay him untill he got the mu job?

17 hours ago, benjsross said:

How does everyone think the fans will receive costa if he plays on Sunday?

Personally if I was there I would be singing his name. But curious if everyone else feels the same? 

If he gets booed (which i don't think it will) it will be so cringeworthy, lesson's should be learned from the "rats" situation.

1 hour ago, Argo said:

If he gets booed (which i don't think it will) it will be so cringeworthy, lesson's should be learned from the "rats" situation.

The Stamford Bridge crowd usually gets it right.  There were moans and groans after each desperate performance last season but the crowd didn't turn on the team as a whole during that time.  So the sacking of Mourinho, rightly or wrongly, was like a pressure release for all the frustration built up.  I guess much of the crowd needed the players to know that they had to take their share of the responsibility too.  They made their point, it didn't carry over into the following games and everyone moved on.

This is not a 'Payet' situation.  There has never been any suggestion that the player doesn't want to play for the team.  But a difference in opinion in how to manage an injury and prepare for the next game.  Honestly, I haven't a problem if a move to China interested him especially given the incredible sums involved.  Who knows?  Maybe it's all been a ploy to get a better deal with Chelsea.  It's a well beaten track for a player and his agent to use another clubs interest to do so.   The main thing is he puts in a shift and does the business for Chelsea and nobody could question that this season. His name got chanted away at Leicester last week so it'll be 'welcome back' for sure.

8 hours ago, bola said:

 

What about manager's contract payoff?? For example, jose's contract.. he still had another 3 years or so when he was sacked, did the club pay all of his remaining salary outright or did the club only pay him untill he got the mu job?

Well since you dont sell a manager the contract is different, a player won't be out of work a manager may be for a good while there is less job security as a manager so they write early termination penalties in to the contract, it's far more like a service contract than a players which is unique to football, remember the player agrees to leave the manager gets sacked. 

17 hours ago, DonAntonio said:

Look at the timing we got hazard, season after we won the CL and had finished 6th in the league, we got Benitez as an interim then Mou was rebuilding his first year we dinhsed third, hazard has eto and Torres as strikers, costa was also up top last season when we finished 10th, hazard was carrying an unjustly last year, when hazard doesn't play we don't play, if hazard was on form last year we wouldn't have finished 10th, also  the way we play now with hazard up top we have shown we can win without a striker, Costa is crucial no doubt and he wins games but hazard is the engine of the attack, I'd rather lose costa than hazard any day 

Yeah, it's not easy to admit, but we depend a lot on him. Eden is an incredible player. It's not a coincidence we won the league when he was at his best and finished 10th when he was at his worst. I can see a clear correlation there.

Not much has changed this season, to be perfectly honest, apart from the fact that he is the best player in the league again. I noticed that every time we recorded one of those massive 4-0, 5-0 victories he had a 10/10 game, better than any other player in the league can even dream of, and every time it was a 1-0 it's when he had an average game. Still better than 99% of the players out there, though.

Whilst I appreciate the fact that opinions may differ, I can't say I second the idea of giving Costa more money, but when it comes to Eden I am all for it. I don't want Real Madrid or anyone else have wet dreams over him. 

Having said all this, the reliance on him and a possibly Courtois is very big. It would be good if we could get a few more world class players in. The word is that Sanchez is available... :morning:

9 minutes ago, DonAntonio said:

Well since you dont sell a manager the contract is different, a player won't be out of work a manager may be for a good while there is less job security as a manager so they write early termination penalties in to the contract, it's far more like a service contract than a players which is unique to football, remember the player agrees to leave the manager gets sacked. 

we did sack mutu, not sure on the latest development regarding that...  Regarding jose's contract, read somewhere that we only had to pay his salary up untill he got the mu job which equals to 10 months worth of salary, not sure whether that's true or not??

10 hours ago, bola said:

we did sack mutu, not sure on the latest development regarding that...  Regarding jose's contract, read somewhere that we only had to pay his salary up untill he got the mu job which equals to 10 months worth of salary, not sure whether that's true or not??

Not from what I heard we payed him 8 mil, we didnt "sack" mata, if a manager makes it clear he isnt going to play a player then the player will ok a move, you cannot make a player leave in contract, if he wants to stay you are stuck with him,and you have to pay him, hence injured players get paid even if they have a year out,  but the fact is if teh club want to sell and the player refuses they will make his life hard and let him train with the youth team, never get a game etc, so he will want to move himself makes no sense to stay 

4 minutes ago, DonAntonio said:

Not from what I heard we payed him 8 mil, we didnt "sack" mata, if a manager makes it clear he isnt going to play a player then the player will ok a move, you cannot make a player leave in contract, if he wants to stay you are stuck with him,and you have to pay him, hence injured players get paid even if they have a year out,  but the fact is if teh club want to sell and the player refuses they will make his life hard and let him train with the youth team, never get a game etc, so he will want to move himself makes no sense to stay 

Mutu was sacked for his use of drugs 

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/2315258/chelsea-sack-mutu

Edited by Chelsbear

The Times is claiming we want 130m for Costa. In today's market I am not sure if this is just another way of saying he is not for sale or if we actually expect to find someone willing to pay this amount. 

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