Welcome to James Rodriguez Chelsea.

1 hour ago, Xfaxtor said:

Youre right, hes done absolutely f**k all

 

This reminds me of when we were rumoured to sign Douglas Costa and everyone was an expert, saying how poor a signing he would be

He had a good first season, but he scored 7 last season, and 1 this season. Since when is that a "World Class" number 10

I can't believe how unpopular this guy is on this board. He was one of RM's best players in his first season. 

19 hours ago, enigma said:

yeah you can change it back, but this time in a chelsea shirt 

also, cheers for that description, sounds like something we been lacking for a good while. by the sounds of that he could link up well with hazard and costa, you think? 

Would probably link up better with Pedro and Costa than he would Hazard. 

I'm a bit irritated by the posts such as "I'd rather get Sachez and Verratti." Who said those players were availble? I wouldn't mind getting Messi, Neymar, Griezmann, Alaba, Bonucci and Modric. As long as we're playing some sort of fantasy, let's go for all the best out there.

Get real, people. You don't have to like James Rodriguez but when you propose to spend money on other players, be realistic.

1 hour ago, kiwi1691 said:

He had a good first season, but he scored 7 last season, and 1 this season. Since when is that a "World Class" number 10

Clearly a confidence player. Personaly i'm glad we didn't sell Hazard and Costa this summer after their sh*t last season.

 

11 hours ago, The Brit said:

Cant see how he will fit in our team and what's he done since coming out of nowhere at the last World Cup? I fear we will just be replacing one fraud in Oscar with another

Yeah it's strange because he simply doesn't fit into our system and I for one don't want us to change a successful system to shoe horn in a luxury player like James.

I don't see him being able to do a Pedro/Willian role on the right side because that requires a player with bags of speed, stamina and someone who will track back. I've not seen much of those qualities with James. To me if he is best played in the hole behind the striker like Mata....that's where he will put in world class performances.

If we want a winger then buy a winger.

Edited December 21, 20169 yr by Chelsbear

9 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

Yeah it's strange because he simply doesn't fit into our system and I for one don't want us to change a successful system to shoe horn in a luxury player like James.

I don't see him being able to do a Pedro/Willian role on the right side because that requires a player with bags of speed, stamina and someone who will track back. I've not seen much of those qualities with James. To me if he is best played in the hole behind the striker like Mata....that's where he will put in world class performances.

If we want a winger then buy a winger.

He fits our system perfectly, both offensively and defensively 

Just now, pacquiao said:

He fits our system perfectly, both offensively and defensively 

He's a central attacking midfielder.

We don't play a central attacking midfielder in our system.........

8 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

Yeah it's strange because he simply doesn't fit into our system and I for one don't want us to change a successful system to shoe horn in a luxury player like James.

I don't see him being able to do a Pedro/Willian role on the right side because that requires a player with bags of speed, stamina and someone who will track back. I've not seen much of those qualities with James. To me if he is best played in the hole behind the striker like Mata....that's where he will put in world class performances.

If we want a winger then buy a winger.

Exactly my feelings. He is a great player, but not in the position we need and certainly hasn't got the stamina to defend continuously as Conte requires for his system. For me the main issue is his attitude. He is not the kind of player that will be content to be benched. But if Conte thinks he can use him, I am happy to trust Conte.

In any case, it looks like Real Madrid is not willing to let him go before the summer, only if the buyer meets the termination clause (€500m).

1 hour ago, kiwi1691 said:

He had a good first season, but he scored 7 last season, and 1 this season. Since when is that a "World Class" number 10

When have I said he was?

8 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

He's a central attacking midfielder.

We don't play a central attacking midfielder in our system.........

Best you call Conte and tell him that before he does something he will regret

Players like James rarely become available and given we're selling OScar anyway, the money we'd be paying isnt really that high.

One out, one in, perfect for squad balance.

Oscars barely kicked a ball in Contes 3-4-3 too

10 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

He's a central attacking midfielder.

We don't play a central attacking midfielder in our system.........

We don't play wingers in our system, Moses and Alonso provide the width as wingbacks, which allows Hazard and Pedro/Willian/James to play more centrally and then without the ball James would drop into a central midfield position, like Pedro has done for us 

5 minutes ago, Xfaxtor said:

Best you call Conte and tell him that before he does something he will regret

We don't even know we are interested, it's just paper sound bites. Don't believe everything you read

Looking at it from our standpoint he doesn't fit into what Conte has been building thus far. Had we played with an attacking midfielder in a Oscar/Mata role James would be unreal.

I'm not doubting his ability because he's a class footballer but we are selling Oscar because he doesn't have a place in our first team and he is like for like with James position wise.

 

Just now, pacquiao said:

We don't play wingers in our system, Moses and Alonso provide the width as wingbacks, which allows Hazard and Pedro/Willian/James to play more centrally and then without the ball James would drop into a central midfield position, like Pedro has done for us 

We clearly play 2 wingers in our system.

Hazard and Willian have cut inside since they signed at Chelsea....they have always played as wingers however. You rarely get wingers these days who don't cut inside they are a rarity.

James has played his best football playing centrally, that's where he does his damage, not playing in a Willian role.

5 minutes ago, Delnino said:

Players like James rarely become available and given we're selling OScar anyway, the money we'd be paying isnt really that high.

One out, one in, perfect for squad balance.

Oscars barely kicked a ball in Contes 3-4-3 too

James wouldn't be doing an Oscar role because Oscar sat on the bench. If James signed he'd be starting games.

1 minute ago, Chelsbear said:

We clearly play 2 wingers in our system.

Hazard and Willian have cut inside since they signed at Chelsea....they have always played as wingers however. You rarely get wingers these days who don't cut inside they are a rarity.

James has played his best football playing centrally, that's where he does his damage, not playing in a Willian role.

We clearly don't play wingers in our system, they are forwards, Alonso and Moses play out wide, Hazard and Pedro/ Willian drift in the spaces behind Costa, sometimes making runs ahead of Costa, In a 3-4-3, James would basically be playing as an AM his best position, he would be getting the ball in central areas between the lines he would have Moses to his right, Hazard would be around him looking to link up with him and Alonso would be out on the left wing with Costa ahead of him, it suits James perfectly.

You do realise Moses and Alonso are wing backs don't you?

We play with one striker up top and two wide men either side of him. Just because Hazard and Willian cut inside doesn't change that.

First off James is attacking midfielder, who also play to left and to right. Exactly what we need. And hell no, we are not playing with 2 typicals static wingers. Again Hazard and Pedro/Willian have a lot of freedom and its up to them to build our game in the front, and they play freely. They move to the center, to left, to right, so James is perfect in that position. Sanchez is more of a second striker, while Venger use him as solo man in the front. And when Giruoud coumes out, Sanchez lose himself on the wing. Thats happen so often. I kinda don`t like him, and he dissapear for long period in the matches. He score, but that`s too Arsenal attacking playing style ....
For me James > Sanchez. And James deal can be done, Sanchez not.

And Oscar has never been a world class player. He always be an average player. He has not have even 1 world class attribute into his game. How often he dribbles past defenders, put through balls ? And he is so inconsistency its just not real how we keep him for so long ... Its a miracle we get rid of him, but its not done yet. :D
 

 

 

Edited December 21, 20169 yr by brakeit

11 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

You do realise Moses and Alonso are wing backs don't you?

We play with one striker up top and two wide men either side of him. Just because Hazard and Willian cut inside doesn't change that.

They don't cut inside though, they receive the ball in central areas all the time, they are not wingers in this system.

40 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

We don't even know we are interested, it's just paper sound bites. Don't believe everything you read

Looking at it from our standpoint he doesn't fit into what Conte has been building thus far. Had we played with an attacking midfielder in a Oscar/Mata role James would be unreal.

I'm not doubting his ability because he's a class footballer but we are selling Oscar because he doesn't have a place in our first team and he is like for like with James position wise.

 

Its pretty clear that we are at least interested. Its been confirmed from several sources that we have at least asked around ewgardikg his availability. We wouldnt be wasting our time looking into a transfer of a player the manager doesnt feel fot the system. Which I also disagree with btw but thats another debate

I'm kind of swaying on the fence with this one, just can't make my mind up but then again we can't predict the future on whether this would be a good buy or not. Luckily the club and the player will make their minds up for us.

I think certain negative comments are borne from some of our less than successful transfer deals in the past.

His stats in comparison to others...

La Liga stats since 2014/15 season

James Rodriguez

Games: 63
Goals: 21
Assists: 23
Total: 44

Toni Kroos

Games: 80
Goals: 4
Assists: 24
Total: 28

Luka Modric

Games: 56
Goals: 5
Assists: 8
Total: 13

Andres Iniesta

Games: 60
Goals: 1
Assists: 6
Total: 7

Ivan Rakitic

Games: 80
Goals: 14
Assists: 10
Total: 24

I copied that from an online article, they look pretty impressive to be honest.

Why on earth then is he bench warming and why does RM want rid? Are they desperate for cash?

4 minutes ago, 1905 said:

Why on earth then is he bench warming and why does RM want rid? Are they desperate for cash?

Because they are RM, they are the team who has sold Makelele, Robben, Sneijder, Seedorf, Higuain, Ozil and Di Maria and none of them were even close to being past their best when they sold them.

We haven't exactly done ourselves proud in some of our transfers out either mate; KDB, Lukaku, Bertrand...