On a brighter note, Hazard, Pedro, and Willian are going to love playing these defences, shockingly bad especially citeh.

Harsh red. The GK has less right than striker to go for the ball outside the box. I suppose the ref isn't to know where mane is looking and whether it's intentional or not, but that's where video playback needs to come in. 

Many people would argue that Hunt was just 'going for the ball' ...

1 minute ago, Deino said:

It was really dangerous play though tbf

No it was a 50/50 ball outside the box, with no intent, should of been a free kick and thats it.

Just now, coco said:

On a brighter note, Hazard, Pedro, and Willian are going to love playing these defences, shockingly bad especially citeh.

Surprised me how average both teams have looked.

Just now, AlexTommo said:

Many people would argue that Hunt was just 'going for the ball' ...

How can you compare the two ? one had no intent, one had plenty.

Never understand adding mins. Just stop the damn clock and replay. It's the same bloody thing. 

2 minutes ago, coco said:

We may as well not turn up to watch the games if the refs are not going to allow players to go for 50/50 balls.

They are. There is just a law against raising your foot above a certain height when doing so. And dangerous play is always likely to incur a red card.

The mystery is why this Liverpool player got away with it:

 

4 minutes ago, enigma said:

The GK has less right than striker to go for the ball outside the box. 

Why? If he hadn't sent him off there would be a lot of complaining, it was an incredibly reckless challenge. Red was correct.

How can you compare the two ? one had no intent, one had plenty.

I'm just trying to point out that lack of intent doesn't excuse dangerous play. If your boot is at head level, you risk your opponent's safety and that should be taken into account.

DP

4 minutes ago, AlexTommo said:

7 minutes ago, coco said:

How can you compare the two ? one had no intent, one had plenty.

I'm just trying to point out that lack of intent doesn't excuse dangerous play. If your boot is at head level, you risk your opponent's safety and that should be taken into account.

imo it was only chest high and not head high.

Ref spoilt the game idiot, and Salah could have gone down there against otamendi

De Bryune is looking so good , and how is a boot to the face not a red card ? Cmon i understand it was a 50/50 challenge but Ederson was there before and Mané put his leg so high and he was late ,it was just an awkward challenge and a well deserved red

 

Edited September 9, 20178 yr by DidierDrogbalala

The ref wants shooting for that decision 

3 minutes ago, coco said:

imo it was only chest high and not head high.

xD

Carragher's face is so red 

10 minutes ago, coco said:

No it was a 50/50 ball outside the box, with no intent, should of been a free kick and thats it.

It was a 50/50, but it ended with Mane's feet hitting the keeper's head. Even at chest level, it was almost the same as the De Jong kick on Alonso at the 2010 WC. The ref just went with the hardest stance when he saw it.

 

If Chelsea were on the receiving end of Mane's challenge... we'd be calling for a red.

Mane is a very good player, but he shouldn't do that. I hope Ederson is okay.

Don't understand why people are complaining about the red... ignore that its citys keeper and imagine its a defender, look how high his foot is, no need to use his foot. Mane was a coward and should have gone with his head, doesn't matter if its a "genuine attempt" his foot shouldn't be that high.

i seen enough from this game to tell me that citeh are REALLY sh*tty at the back, and Pep will not change that any time soon, after all he has had well over a year now to sort it out, and yet they look worse at the back than anytime in the last 3 years. 

it was definitely head high

 

11 minutes ago, coco said:

imo it was only chest high and not head high.

Just now, coco said:

i seen enough from this game to tell me that citeh are REALLY sh*tty at the back, and Pep will not change that any time soon, after all he has had well over a year now to sort it out, and yet they look worse at the back than anytime in the last 3 years. 

He's done amazingly with ottamendi, he's amazingly managed to make him worse, which I didn't think was possible.