abramovich Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 https://www.ft.com/content/32eb170a-5c2a-11e8-ad91-e01af256df68 UK authorities have yet to renew Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich’s visa after it expired last month, three people close to the billionaire have told the FT, as geopolitical tensions rise between Moscow and the west. The Kremlin-connected, London-based Mr Abramovich — who, with a net worth of £9.3bn, is Britain’s 13th-richest man according to the Sunday Times — has returned to Russia after his investor visa ran out, according to two people close to him. Mr Abramovich did not attend Saturday’s FA Cup final, which Chelsea, the team he owns, won 1-0. Fellow oligarchs Oleg Deripaska and Vladimir Potanin were both in London last week for a high-profile court case between the two men. Mr Deripaska is subject to far-reaching US sanctions that prohibit US citizens from doing business with him. A third person close to Mr Abramovich said that his request for a new visa had not been denied, but said that UK authorities were taking longer than usual to renew it without offering any explanation. The Home Office did not immediately respond to requests for comment. ----------------------------------------------- Even if it's a just a hitch, it just seems that this may be a sign of things to come. Due to political confrontation with Russia the situation may get to a point where Roman will have to move. Hard to imagine someone owning a club and not being able to reside in the country. Still, the club is in a healthy financial state and is one of the biggest names around, I think there'll be interested buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I'm being a bit biased, but honestly the UK government are being petty without proof that Russia poisoned the ex-spy. Just because Roman is connected to Putin, does that mean he should be banished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slojo Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 2 hours ago, enigma said: I'm being a bit biased, but honestly the UK government are being petty without proof that Russia poisoned the ex-spy. Just because Roman is connected to Putin, does that mean he should be banished? It's all up in arms at the moment, America were about to do the same with Fedor Emelianenko when he fought Frank Mir at Bellator, the FBI had to put him in a secluded room and question him for hours. I wouldn't be surprised if tensions rise with Roman in the UK, especially given the fact that he supported Putin's campaign along with Fedor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Will it have any effect on his ownership of the club if he's denied a visa, I don't think owning a company in the UK is dependent on visa eligibility. CFC-Forever and yorkleyblue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abramovich Posted May 20, 2018 Author Share Posted May 20, 2018 26 minutes ago, dkw said: Will it have any effect on his ownership of the club if he's denied a visa, I don't think owning a company in the UK is dependent on visa eligibility. Well, why would you want to own a club in a country you cannot even visit? I'm not saying this is definitely going to happen, but if it does, I cannot see him sticking around. CFC-Forever and Blue Exile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gol15 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Roman is at the same time planing to build a new stadium worth a whole lot for Chelsea, UK really needs to stop blaming the russians for everything it really makes no sense that the western countries are so butthurt when it comes to Russia till the point where they are ready to be openly discriminative towards anyone that is from that country... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentonio Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gol15 said: Roman is at the same time planing to build a new stadium worth a whole lot for Chelsea, UK really needs to stop blaming the russians for everything it really makes no sense that the western countries are so butthurt when it comes to Russia till the point where they are ready to be openly discriminative towards anyone that is from that country... Let's not get irrational about it, Roman is one of Putin's closest allies. We've never heard about him having anything to do with Putin's campaign against the West, but when people are as closely linked as those two are, it would be silly to assume that Roman is only under the spotlight because he's Russian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) It could be the end of Roman's reign lads, let's get ready. Edited May 20, 2018 by enigma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gol15 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Just now, Kentonio said: Let's not get irrational about it, Roman is one of Putin's closest allies. We've never heard about him having anything to do with Putin's campaign against the West, but when people are as closely linked as those two are, it would be silly to assume that Roman is only under the spotlight because he's Russian. Whats irrational is to kick out the owner of Chelsea from the country just because he has a relationship with Putin, every single rich man from there needed to have some relation with Putin or he was more or less doomed, this is a big scandal and pure discrimination towards someone that wants to build a brand new Stamford Bridge and that boosted the economy of London in the past years by a big margin...Tell me what did he do which would prevent him to continue living in London there are no real basis for this petty sh*t strider6004 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentonio Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Gol15 said: Whats irrational is to kick out the owner of Chelsea from the country just because he has a relationship with Putin, every single rich man from there needed to have some relation with Putin or he was more or less doomed, this is a big scandal and pure discrimination towards someone that wants to build a brand new Stamford Bridge and that boosted the economy of London in the past years by a big margin...Tell me what did he do which would prevent him to continue living in London there are no real basis for this petty sh*t I have absolutely no idea what information the UK government have which is informing their decision to delay giving him a visa. I very much hope there is no information, and that a visa will be granted shortly. What I'm not going to do though is claim its some big scandal or discrimination without having any of the facts. Much as he's done wonders for the club, its undeniable that Roman and Putin are extremely close. Their relationship has been described as 'like that between a father and a favorite son'. With that in mind, we'd probably be wise to wait and see what happens before claiming foul play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gol15 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Kentonio said: I have absolutely no idea what information the UK government have which is informing their decision to delay giving him a visa. I very much hope there is no information, and that a visa will be granted shortly. What I'm not going to do though is claim its some big scandal or discrimination without having any of the facts. Much as he's done wonders for the club, its undeniable that Roman and Putin are extremely close. Their relationship has been described as 'like that between a father and a favorite son'. With that in mind, we'd probably be wise to wait and see what happens before claiming foul play. Obviously I have no information either but I don't trust the governments with these things at all. Honestly do you imagine something like this happening to any billionaire that didn't have a relation with Putin and that isn't Russian? Like any other club owner in the UK? It's all politics and I'm sure that Chelsea's owner has nothing to do with the ex-spy killing, they should stick to politics and not mixed it with sports this is just being a bully towards Roman from my point of view and I would be very upset if it results in no investment of £500m for a new stadium, I heard stories from the media claiming that because of that ex-spy's death that England should boycott the World Cup in Russia and IMO it's just ridiculous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 2 hours ago, abramovich said: Well, why would you want to own a club in a country you cannot even visit? I'm not saying this is definitely going to happen, but if it does, I cannot see him sticking around. Sorry, I meant to phrase it as a question as to his rights of ownership. Whether he wants to is a different thing altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkunku Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 It’s not the end. The government are just playing stupid childish games to try and prove a point to Russia which I’m pretty sure they don’t give a sh*t about. If it looks like they may lose the £1bil investment in the stadium the visa will be approved straight away. Zola 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic90 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I know nothing about the laws on the issue but if there was any chance of Roman leaving Chelsea I think it would be big top headline news right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesince66 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 The F.A won't stop at anything to stuff chelsea ,they have even asked the government to hold roman's visa lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducavis Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) Was wondering how long it would take the media to link Roman to Putin. It is Fake News because Roman would have been applying for a Tier 1 (Investor) Visa as he is investing over £2m into the UK economy. After a couple of years, he qualifies for an indefinite leave to remain. I am not certain he still requires a visa after investing in the UK for over 10yrs. http://www.ukvisas.com/tier-1-investor-visa/ Edited May 20, 2018 by ducavis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephyr690 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Gol15 said: Obviously I have no information either but I don't trust the governments with these things at all. Honestly do you imagine something like this happening to any billionaire that didn't have a relation with Putin and that isn't Russian? Like any other club owner in the UK? It's all politics and I'm sure that Chelsea's owner has nothing to do with the ex-spy killing, they should stick to politics and not mixed it with sports this is just being a bully towards Roman from my point of view and I would be very upset if it results in no investment of £500m for a new stadium, I heard stories from the media claiming that because of that ex-spy's death that England should boycott the World Cup in Russia and IMO it's just ridiculous... The ex spy didn’t die and is now apparently out of hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider6004 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Isn't there also a very rich Russian at Arsenal and some of the Papers too like the Evening Standard, if they go after Abramovich it might be time for us to get a petition going about Arsenal's backer and then see what happens...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFC-Forever Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Talking about it now on Good Morning Britain. It's actually one of the top stories so I think people are realising just how serious this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherMan Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 12 hours ago, sonic90 said: I know nothing about the laws on the issue but if there was any chance of Roman leaving Chelsea I think it would be big top headline news right now. It pretty much is in the Uk this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 It's just the UK playing silly buggers... all should get resolved shortly I would imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentonio Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 We should keep the politics out of it though. I've been a Chelsea fan for coming up on 40 years, yet if Abramovich has done something harmful to my country then I'm absolutely fine with having him kicked out the country and for us to go back to being a club in the bottom half of the table/fighting relegation each year if necessary. Putin tried to fecking murder someone and put completely innocent people in Salisbury at risk with a toxic agent. That's more important than anything sport related. Andy North and CFC-Forever 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, Kentonio said: We should keep the politics out of it though. I've been a Chelsea fan for coming up on 40 years, yet if Abramovich has done something harmful to my country then I'm absolutely fine with having him kicked out the country and for us to go back to being a club in the bottom half of the table/fighting relegation each year if necessary. Putin tried to fecking murder someone and put completely innocent people in Salisbury at risk with a toxic agent. That's more important than anything sport related. There's actually no proof of this yet. I am not a Putin defender, but it's really not been proven so it's all speculation. I wouldn't trust any government, even our own, as far as I could throw them tbh. I don't believe what Russia say, nor do I fully believe what the UK government say. All of them hide behind lies. The US and UK have reason to use a nerve agent and place blame on Russia because Russia have always been labelled the "bad guys" in the West. Who knows who is culpable, it's just a big blame game. Zola 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentonio Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, enigma said: There's actually no proof of this yet. I am not a Putin defender, but it's really not been proven so it's all speculation. I wouldn't trust any government, even our own, as far as I could throw them tbh. I don't believe what Russia say, nor do I fully believe what the UK government say. All of them hide behind lies. The US and UK have reason to use a nerve agent and place blame on Russia because Russia have always been labelled the "bad guys" in the West. Who knows who is culpable, it's just a big blame game. And how about Litvinenko? Do we think that was the UK too? Let's be serious, the Russian government have been murdering dissidents both in Russia and abroad for many years now. I do agree that we shouldn't just blindly trust the UK government by the way, but let's not fall into the trap of thinking the two are equivilent. As for Roman, I've never seen anything that suggests he's done anything wrong in the UK, but considering the financial dealings Russia have in London, its just probably wise to sit back and see what happens. Obviously I want him to be completely exonerated, he's done incredible things for my club and I'm grateful for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 The thing that makes me laugh is that our government easily allows foreign investors from China and Middle East, yet because it's Russia the money is "dirty" lol. I think if you delved deeper into many of these foreign investors the money is most likely dirty. boomerdog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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