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2019-20 20 Squad

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14 hours ago, goose said:

I like Zaha. Think he has improved mentally this past two seasons.

He’s grown up a lot. The incident in the last game shows you that. Gets kicked and kicked and kicked, normally he’d react and get sent off but now he gets up, say’s ‘f**k you then’ and set up a great goal. 

Still too divey for me, would fit better in Liverpool :blush2:

  • 2 weeks later...

With the registration ban in place I would now go for:

 

GK: Kepa, Big Willy, Green (HG)

Full backs: James (club HG), Azpi, Emerson, Alonso

CBs: Luiz, Christensen (Club HG), Rudiger, Zouma

Registra: Jorginho, Chalobah (Club HG)

CMs: Kante, Ampadu (Club HG), Barkley (HG), Mount (Club HG) RLC (Club HG)

Wide forwards: CHO (Club HG), Willian, Pedro, Pulisic

Forwards: Giroud, Abraham (Club HG), Brown (Club HG)

 

Meets the home grown needs to have a 25 man Squad, would also mean not retaining Kovacic and Higuain and the sales of:

Hazard - 110mill

Baka - 20mill

Zappacosta - 10mill

Cahill - Free

Batman - 25mill

Piazon - Free

Pasalic - 10mill

Kenedy - 10mill

Ania - 8mill

Rahman - 10mill

Drinkwater - 10mill

Marco Van Ginkel - 2mill

 

If that works 205mill in, no signings. Be the biggest gross transfer window profit we ever made lol.

 

18 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

With the registration ban in place I would now go for:

 

GK: Kepa, Big Willy, Green (HG)

Full backs: James (club HG), Azpi, Emerson, Alonso

CBs: Luiz, Christensen (Club HG), Rudiger, Zouma

Registra: Jorginho, Chalobah (Club HG)

CMs: Kante, Ampadu (Club HG), Barkley (HG), Mount (Club HG) RLC (Club HG)

Wide forwards: CHO (Club HG), Willian, Pedro, Pulisic

Forwards: Giroud, Abraham (Club HG), Brown (Club HG)

 

Meets the home grown needs to have a 25 man Squad, would also mean not retaining Kovacic and Higuain and the sales of:

Hazard - 110mill

Baka - 20mill

Zappacosta - 10mill

Cahill - Free

Batman - 25mill

Piazon - Free

Pasalic - 10mill

Kenedy - 10mill

Ania - 8mill

Rahman - 10mill

Drinkwater - 10mill

Marco Van Ginkel - 2mill

 

If that works 205mill in, no signings. Be the biggest gross transfer window profit we ever made lol.

 

Looks good on paper, but is it good enough to get out of a group stage in the Champion's League and finish in the Top 4?  I'm not interested in alternating between Europa League and Champions League every year.  This is why I don't know why we wouldn't appeal the ban to CAS.  If we accept ban and finish 5th or 5th, we're back in the Europa League.  You know City will look to improve to repel another Liverpool challenge, Liverpool will strengthen to try to overtake City, United will spend a ton to get into the Top 4, Spurs may have to replace Erikson, and Arsenal have to improve after another bad fade.  So it may not be the best year to accept the ban.

59 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

With the registration ban in place I would now go for:

 

GK: Kepa, Big Willy, Green (HG)

Full backs: James (club HG), Azpi, Emerson, Alonso

CBs: Luiz, Christensen (Club HG), Rudiger, Zouma

Registra: Jorginho, Chalobah (Club HG)

CMs: Kante, Ampadu (Club HG), Barkley (HG), Mount (Club HG) RLC (Club HG)

Wide forwards: CHO (Club HG), Willian, Pedro, Pulisic

Forwards: Giroud, Abraham (Club HG), Brown (Club HG)

 

Meets the home grown needs to have a 25 man Squad, would also mean not retaining Kovacic and Higuain and the sales of:

Hazard - 110mill

Baka - 20mill

Zappacosta - 10mill

Cahill - Free

Batman - 25mill

Piazon - Free

Pasalic - 10mill

Kenedy - 10mill

Ania - 8mill

Rahman - 10mill

Drinkwater - 10mill

Marco Van Ginkel - 2mill

 

If that works 205mill in, no signings. Be the biggest gross transfer window profit we ever made lol.

 

Be quite a gross profit for sure, and I think you even estimated on the low side for a handful of them.  Could see us getting in the range of 225-250m, especially with Marina getting her way.

Edit: For example, Newcastle (I think it was Benitez but can't remember) said that we wanted 30m for Kenedy, so they wouldn't buy him.  If that's our asking price, I don't think it's crazy to think that we would get minimum 20m for him

Edited by mwblue10

2 hours ago, mwblue10 said:

Be quite a gross profit for sure, and I think you even estimated on the low side for a handful of them.  Could see us getting in the range of 225-250m, especially with Marina getting her way.

Edit: For example, Newcastle (I think it was Benitez but can't remember) said that we wanted 30m for Kenedy, so they wouldn't buy him.  If that's our asking price, I don't think it's crazy to think that we would get minimum 20m for him

Yeah I wanted to low ball, we could certainly get more.

 

3 minutes ago, Juan Nil said:

Add Morata, Moses and Alonso and we will have over £300m to put towards any future stadium plans

Morata has another year on his Atletico loan so cannot see his sale happening till next summer, Alonso we are not moving on his contract is way too large for most and the ones who could afford him I doubt would want him. Moses has another year on his loan in Turkey so in order for him to go that would need to be terminated.

1 minute ago, axman2526 said:

Yeah I wanted to low ball, we could certainly get more.

 

Morata has another year on his Atletico loan so cannot see his sale happening till next summer, Alonso we are not moving on his contract is way too large for most and the ones who could afford him I doubt would want him. Moses has another year on his loan in Turkey so in order for him to go that would need to be terminated.

Understandable on the low ball, either way the potential income from sales should be an impressive amount.

Moses practically confirmed he is leaving Fenerbahce already: https://www.goal.com/en/news/victor-moses-expected-to-join-inter-milan-after-confirming/ctjxjqh091ka13jcrhiv6nrk1

Alright now then how about no Sarri AND with the registration ban in place?:

 

GK: Kepa, Big Willy, Blackman(HG)

Full backs: James (club HG), Azpi, Emerson, Alonso

CBs: Luiz, Christensen (Club HG), Rudiger, Zouma

Defensive Mid: Kante, Chalobah (Club HG)

CMs: Ampadu (Club HG) Barkley (HG), Mount (Club HG) RLC (Club HG), Baka

Wide forwards: CHO (Club HG), Willian, Pedro, Pulisic

Forwards: Giroud, Abraham (Club HG), Brown (Club HG)

 

Meets the home grown needs to have a 25 man Squad, would also mean not retaining Kovacic and Higuain and the sales of:

Hazard - 110mill

Zappacosta - 10mill

Cahill - Free

Batman - 25mill

Piazon - Free

Pasalic - 10mill

Kenedy - 10mill

Ania - 8mill

Rahman - 10mill

Drinkwater - 10mill

Marco Van Ginkel - 2mill

Jorginho - 40mill

 

If that works 225mill in, with that one.

12 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Alright now then how about no Sarri AND with the registration ban in place?:

 

GK: Kepa, Big Willy, Blackman(HG)

Full backs: James (club HG), Azpi, Emerson, Alonso

CBs: Luiz, Christensen (Club HG), Rudiger, Zouma

Defensive Mid: Kante, Chalobah (Club HG)

CMs: Ampadu (Club HG) Barkley (HG), Mount (Club HG) RLC (Club HG), Baka

Wide forwards: CHO (Club HG), Willian, Pedro, Pulisic

Forwards: Giroud, Abraham (Club HG), Brown (Club HG)

 

Meets the home grown needs to have a 25 man Squad, would also mean not retaining Kovacic and Higuain and the sales of:

Hazard - 110mill

Zappacosta - 10mill

Cahill - Free

Batman - 25mill

Piazon - Free

Pasalic - 10mill

Kenedy - 10mill

Ania - 8mill

Rahman - 10mill

Drinkwater - 10mill

Marco Van Ginkel - 2mill

Jorginho - 40mill

 

If that works 225mill in, with that one.

i think we would struggle to make top 6 with that squad tbh. 

16 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Alright now then how about no Sarri AND with the registration ban in place?:

 

GK: Kepa, Big Willy, Blackman(HG)

Full backs: James (club HG), Azpi, Emerson, Alonso

CBs: Luiz, Christensen (Club HG), Rudiger, Zouma

Defensive Mid: Kante, Chalobah (Club HG)

CMs: Ampadu (Club HG) Barkley (HG), Mount (Club HG) RLC (Club HG), Baka

Wide forwards: CHO (Club HG), Willian, Pedro, Pulisic

Forwards: Giroud, Abraham (Club HG), Brown (Club HG)

 

Meets the home grown needs to have a 25 man Squad, would also mean not retaining Kovacic and Higuain and the sales of:

Hazard - 110mill

Zappacosta - 10mill

Cahill - Free

Batman - 25mill

Piazon - Free

Pasalic - 10mill

Kenedy - 10mill

Ania - 8mill

Rahman - 10mill

Drinkwater - 10mill

Marco Van Ginkel - 2mill

Jorginho - 40mill

 

If that works 225mill in, with that one.

That looks like a lot of clean sheet defeats for us

14 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Alright now then how about no Sarri AND with the registration ban in place?:

 

GK: Kepa, Big Willy, Blackman(HG)

Full backs: James (club HG), Azpi, Emerson, Alonso

CBs: Luiz, Christensen (Club HG), Rudiger, Zouma

Defensive Mid: Kante, Chalobah (Club HG)

CMs: Ampadu (Club HG) Barkley (HG), Mount (Club HG) RLC (Club HG), Baka

Wide forwards: CHO (Club HG), Willian, Pedro, Pulisic

Forwards: Giroud, Abraham (Club HG), Brown (Club HG)

 

Meets the home grown needs to have a 25 man Squad, would also mean not retaining Kovacic and Higuain and the sales of:

Hazard - 110mill

Zappacosta - 10mill

Cahill - Free

Batman - 25mill

Piazon - Free

Pasalic - 10mill

Kenedy - 10mill

Ania - 8mill

Rahman - 10mill

Drinkwater - 10mill

Marco Van Ginkel - 2mill

Jorginho - 40mill

 

If that works 225mill in, with that one.

Not even close to a top 4 team that. Yes some of our youngsters look good, but most of them are not at the level some people believe. Mount for example, a good, not great, championship player this year.

Our two best, and also two of the only goalscorers in the squad, are injured until Christmas most likely. 

25 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Alright now then how about no Sarri AND with the registration ban in place?:

 

GK: Kepa, Big Willy, Blackman(HG)

Full backs: James (club HG), Azpi, Emerson, Alonso

CBs: Luiz, Christensen (Club HG), Rudiger, Zouma

Defensive Mid: Kante, Chalobah (Club HG)

CMs: Ampadu (Club HG) Barkley (HG), Mount (Club HG) RLC (Club HG), Baka

Wide forwards: CHO (Club HG), Willian, Pedro, Pulisic

Forwards: Giroud, Abraham (Club HG), Brown (Club HG)

 

Meets the home grown needs to have a 25 man Squad, would also mean not retaining Kovacic and Higuain and the sales of:

Hazard - 110mill

Zappacosta - 10mill

Cahill - Free

Batman - 25mill

Piazon - Free

Pasalic - 10mill

Kenedy - 10mill

Ania - 8mill

Rahman - 10mill

Drinkwater - 10mill

Marco Van Ginkel - 2mill

Jorginho - 40mill

 

If that works 225mill in, with that one.

I feel instantly depressed 

On 30/05/2019 at 10:49, axman2526 said:

With the registration ban in place I would now go for:

 

GK: Kepa, Big Willy, Green (HG)

Full backs: James (club HG), Azpi, Emerson, Alonso

CBs: Luiz, Christensen (Club HG), Rudiger, Zouma

Registra: Jorginho, Chalobah (Club HG)

CMs: Kante, Ampadu (Club HG), Barkley (HG), Mount (Club HG) RLC (Club HG)

Wide forwards: CHO (Club HG), Willian, Pedro, Pulisic

Forwards: Giroud, Abraham (Club HG), Brown (Club HG)

 

Meets the home grown needs to have a 25 man Squad, would also mean not retaining Kovacic and Higuain and the sales of:

Hazard - 110mill

Baka - 20mill

Zappacosta - 10mill

Cahill - Free

Batman - 25mill

Piazon - Free

Pasalic - 10mill

Kenedy - 10mill

Ania - 8mill

Rahman - 10mill

Drinkwater - 10mill

Marco Van Ginkel - 2mill

 

If that works 205mill in, no signings. Be the biggest gross transfer window profit we ever made lol.

 

massive sigh, usually there is optimism going into the summer but with the transfer ban and now looking like we are losing Sarri to Juve, I just don't feel optimistic at all. That squad doesn't inspire hope. With that being said, I can't see us selling Bats since we will be needing options up top, even with Giroud and potentially Tammy.. lets get this season over with and hopefully we stay in Europe.

6 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Alright now then how about no Sarri AND with the registration ban in place?:

 

GK: Kepa, Big Willy, Blackman(HG)

Full backs: James (club HG), Azpi, Emerson, Alonso

CBs: Luiz, Christensen (Club HG), Rudiger, Zouma

Defensive Mid: Kante, Chalobah (Club HG)

CMs: Ampadu (Club HG) Barkley (HG), Mount (Club HG) RLC (Club HG), Baka

Wide forwards: CHO (Club HG), Willian, Pedro, Pulisic

Forwards: Giroud, Abraham (Club HG), Brown (Club HG)

 

Meets the home grown needs to have a 25 man Squad, would also mean not retaining Kovacic and Higuain and the sales of:

Hazard - 110mill

Zappacosta - 10mill

Cahill - Free

Batman - 25mill

Piazon - Free

Pasalic - 10mill

Kenedy - 10mill

Ania - 8mill

Rahman - 10mill

Drinkwater - 10mill

Marco Van Ginkel - 2mill

Jorginho - 40mill

 

If that works 225mill in, with that one.

I think Zappa is a good bench option, Reece James has just one season in the Championship under his belt, we should be blooding in youngsters next season but if it turns out he can't handle the PL we have insurance.

MvG came off a good season (according to stats) scoring 14 league goals and 4 assists in 28 matches and beating Ajax to the title before getting injured. It is his second long term injury so we don't know how good he'll be when he comes back, I think he's worth more than £2m though.

Jorginho has just come into form there's no way we should be selling him now, certainly not to accommodate Bakayoko! 

 

GK: Kepa, Willy, Blackman (HG)

RB: Azpi, Zappacosta
LB: Emerson, Alonso
+ RB James (HG) or LB DaSilva (HG)

CB: Luiz, Rudiger, Christensen (HG), Zouma

CM: Kante, Jorginho, Loftus-Cheek (HG), Barkley (HG), Ampadu (HG)

WF: Pulisic, Pedro, Willian, Hudson-Odoi (HG),
+ Winger for cover: Moses (HG) or Kenedy or Charly Musonda

ST: Giroud, Batshuayi, Abraham (HG)

I think this is the most realistic and high quality squad we can muster without signings.

Edit: Moses is on loan for another year, I'd cancel it personally, if not then Kenedy or last resort Charly.

Edited by sonic90

It's a bit sad state of affairs at the moment. Had everything been good, this transfer window is the perfect time to refresh and rejuvenate the squad.

I’ve just read we can still sign players on loan. They could be the key to us, if Hazard does go to Madrid then bale on loan would be a nice sweetener.

Teams will know our situation and there are plenty of top class players that don’t work in a system or have manager conflict etc.

Between our players on loan and the possibility of loaning more players especially from Real Madrid who have bought/nearly bought  2 players we didn’t want to sell 2 seasons in a row they will surely be happy to help out. 

Edited by WalterWhiteCFC

My word that squad is depressing without Hazard or signings. Personally not the biggest fan of the youth, of course RLC and CHO were a success but for others, I’m not sure. Mount, Abraham and Reece James seemed to be our most hyped, but the premier league is a whole new world to the championship

Edited by MrsGaffer

Out of our current players/loanees, this is it for now:

GK: Kepa, Willy, Blackman/Bulka

RB: Azpi

CB: Luiz, Rudiger, Christensen, Zouma

LB: Emerson, Reece James

MF: Jorginho, Kante, RLC, Kovacic, Ampadu, Mount

Wingers: Pulisic, CHO, 

Strikers: Giroud, Tammy

 

Out:

Hazard: 120m

Alonso: 35m

Bats: 25m

Bakayoko: 30m

Morata: 50m

Kenedy/Pasalic/Baba/Zappa/Stinkwater/Van Ginkel/: About 10m each

 

Im sure there are more players that can be sold, but this is what comes to mind for now.

 

In:

Jovic, Coutinho, Sane + a world class RB?

 

A man can hope!

 

 

38 minutes ago, ENygma said:

Out of our current players/loanees, this is it for now:

GK: Kepa, Willy, Blackman/Bulka

RB: Azpi

CB: Luiz, Rudiger, Christensen, Zouma

LB: Emerson, Reece James

MF: Jorginho, Kante, RLC, Kovacic, Ampadu, Mount

Wingers: Pulisic, CHO, 

Strikers: Giroud, Tammy

 

Out:

Hazard: 120m

Alonso: 35m

Bats: 25m

Bakayoko: 30m

Morata: 50m

Kenedy/Pasalic/Baba/Zappa/Stinkwater/Van Ginkel/: About 10m each

 

Im sure there are more players that can be sold, but this is what comes to mind for now.

 

In:

Jovic, Coutinho, Sane + a world class RB?

 

A man can hope!

 

 

Reece James is a right back.

I think if we even could sign Sane it’s a bad idea as he likes to play on the left, and CHO is wasted when he isn’t on the left. 

Jovic, Pepe & Telles would be the realistic dream for me.

1 minute ago, rtwelch said:

Reece James is a right back.

I think if we even could sign Sane it’s a bad idea as he likes to play on the left, and CHO is wasted when he isn’t on the left. 

Jovic, Pepe & Telles would be the realistic dream for me.

Yeah sorry I meant RB. That would make it Azpi and Reece James at RB and we sign a world class LB to compete with Emerson or even get ahead of him.

I think signing Sane is a fantastic idea. Wingers of Pulisic, CHO and Sane? Definitely a huge upgrade on Willian and Pedro, just a shame that it seems highly unlikely to happen.

5 minutes ago, ENygma said:

Yeah sorry I meant RB. That would make it Azpi and Reece James at RB and we sign a world class LB to compete with Emerson or even get ahead of him.

I think signing Sane is a fantastic idea. Wingers of Pulisic, CHO and Sane? Definitely a huge upgrade on Willian and Pedro, just a shame that it seems highly unlikely to happen.

I think we have an ideal situation at RB and a less than ideal one at LB.

In theory I would of course take Sane but I just think it stunts CHO’s progress unless Sane can play at a high level on the right. He is left footed which is a massive plus.

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