5 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Badiashile has played RCB before. 

Good to know, however, Fofana isn’t exactly going anywhere any time soon, points taken alround with regards to competition; hopefully both club & players acknowledge inevitable injuries too. Laporte is reportedly leaving for more regular minutes though and we know what happened with other City players who became out of favour (the ones with ambition).

Just have this nightmare of the bids increasing and the board folding on Colwill due to the numbers we already have there. 🤦‍♂️

Captain in the making. I’d be amazed if he is sold.
Even if he was loaned to Brighton for another season as part of the Caisedo deal I’d be unhappy. He’s already a top quality premier league defender and with no European football next season this is his chance. 

43 minutes ago, 19seventyone said:

Captain in the making. I’d be amazed if he is sold.
Even if he was loaned to Brighton for another season as part of the Caisedo deal I’d be unhappy. He’s already a top quality premier league defender and with no European football next season this is his chance. 

I am hoping we are not stupid enough to let him go.

4 hours ago, 19seventyone said:

Captain in the making. I’d be amazed if he is sold.
Even if he was loaned to Brighton for another season as part of the Caisedo deal I’d be unhappy. He’s already a top quality premier league defender and with no European football next season this is his chance. 

But we have to acknowledge that hard business facts dictate that he, like the other academy players, have pure monetary value for FFP and whether we like it or not Boehly has turned us into the richest selling club in the world currently. And unlike certain others we don't appear to have levers to pull out of our ar$e$.

We might not like it at all, but we have to face the fact the Colwill is in that prime group.

21 hours ago, Term_X said:

I suppose, but with the Caicedo interest thrown into the mix with this one, push might come to shove (god, if only we hadn’t signed f**king Badiashile 🤦‍♂️ wasn’t even in the UCL squad and now he’s blocking Colwill). Nice to have strength in depth but not when you’ve got heigh ceiling potential superstars with their futures in the balance.

Brighton would double their money in two seasons at present, easily get £60m from City for Colwill, club at that level can only buy to sell anyway, who are they kidding.

Tbh the only thing that makes sense if he does go would be he's trying to get a route to City (well Pep to be more accurate).

Him claiming he's a big believer in repaying faith seems odd given a) if that was true he'd have seen it as his duty to stay at Huddersfield and make amends for that own goal and b) he played less than half the PL games at Brighton and only got as much as 17 because of Webster's injury.

30 minutes ago, Argo said:

Tbh the only thing that makes sense if he does go would be he's trying to get a route to City (well Pep to be more accurate).

Him claiming he's a big believer in repaying faith seems odd given a) if that was true he'd have seen it as his duty to stay at Huddersfield and make amends for that own goal and b) he played less than half the PL games at Brighton and only got as much as 17 because of Webster's injury.

He was never staying in the Championship for another season, had they gone up he probably would have stayed with them. He's a big reason they got to the play off final, harsh to blame the OG on him in the final. 

7 hours ago, 19seventyone said:

Captain in the making.

 

another one?

32 minutes ago, Argo said:

Tbh the only thing that makes sense if he does go would be he's trying to get a route to City (well Pep to be more accurate).

Him claiming he's a big believer in repaying faith seems odd given a) if that was true he'd have seen it as his duty to stay at Huddersfield and make amends for that own goal and b) he played less than half the PL games at Brighton and only got as much as 17 because of Webster's injury.

He's just a kid trying to get the clubs attention when they make a decision on who to keep in the squad. 

He knows it's win win, either he leaves to Brighton and is a stepping stone to a top club, or he gets his opportunity with us next year as we bend over backwards to make him welcome. 

If he is anywhere near as good as people say him to be we shoud do everything to make him stay. We currently have 6-8 centerbacks. Colwill needs to be among the first 4 choices for it to be smart him to be part of our next years squad. 

It would mean we sell the likes of Koulibaly and Chalobah.

The pecking order probably is Silva, Fofana, Badiahile and Colwill then. That is if Pochettino prefers 4 at back. 

23 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

He was never staying in the Championship for another season, had they gone up he probably would have stayed with them. He's a big reason they got to the play off final, harsh to blame the OG on him in the final. 

I'm not blaming him just pointing out the flaws in his logic.

Called up to the first team per the reliable SecretScout. 

Wow. Another Cobahm grad. 

On 08/06/2023 at 06:40, WhiteWall said:

But we have to acknowledge that hard business facts dictate that he, like the other academy players, have pure monetary value for FFP and whether we like it or not Boehly has turned us into the richest selling club in the world currently. And unlike certain others we don't appear to have levers to pull out of our ar$e$.

We might not like it at all, but we have to face the fact the Colwill is in that prime group.

But we do have the same levers to pull.

One lever that Barca "pulled" was to sell off its future TV income for years to come in return for cash now.  They aren't getting a free ride , it will affect their finances for years to come. It's short sighted and not something I'd want us to consider.  But , you never can tell with us at the moment .

 

9 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

But we do have the same levers to pull.

One lever that Barca "pulled" was to sell off its future TV income for years to come in return for cash now.  They aren't getting a free ride , it will affect their finances for years to come. It's short sighted and not something I'd want us to consider.  But , you never can tell with us at the moment .

 

The way this clown and his cronies appear to be hell bent on running us into the ground, I wouldn't put this past him either.

4 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

The way this clown and his cronies appear to be hell bent on running us into the ground, I wouldn't put this past him either.

Do you honestly believe they spent £3.5B on us just to run us into the ground? There's too much money and too many clever people for us to fail for too long. I think the majority of their decisions are good, just too much change happened at once from fixing problems left by the previous ownership. What should have been done over a 2 year rebuild they tried to do in 6 months. When the dust settles we'll be in a much better place as a club.

3 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Do you honestly believe they spent £3.5B on us just to run us into the ground? There's too much money and too many clever people for us to fail for too long. I think the majority of their decisions are good, just too much change happened at once from fixing problems left by the previous ownership. What should have been done over a 2 year rebuild they tried to do in 6 months. When the dust settles we'll be in a much better place as a club.

Personally i am yet to see a single decision that they have made so far that has ben good. The only possible silver lining for the unprecented amount of money they have spent on what have proven to be mediocre players, so far, is that they have bought a crop of youngsters that, may, turn into elite eplayers and form part of the first team. This is buying potential that we hope will turn out well.

Surely you cannot deny that spending the better part of £600m, which increases our debt position and has put us an awkward position the FFP, in an industry that you have absolutely no experience in has been a major act of folly on their part. I am not implying any actual intent but the naivety and what appears to have been perceived by the press and game's punditry as arrogance has made us the current laughing stock, and may well have backed us into a corner when trying to re-organsise the playing staff.

Let's hope the dust does indeed settle and they don't follow up their initial ignominious debut in the game with another calamitous transfer window. Neymar anyone?!

44 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

Personally i am yet to see a single decision that they have made so far that has ben good. The only possible silver lining for the unprecented amount of money they have spent on what have proven to be mediocre players, so far, is that they have bought a crop of youngsters that, may, turn into elite eplayers and form part of the first team. This is buying potential that we hope will turn out well.

Surely you cannot deny that spending the better part of £600m, which increases our debt position and has put us an awkward position the FFP, in an industry that you have absolutely no experience in has been a major act of folly on their part. I am not implying any actual intent but the naivety and what appears to have been perceived by the press and game's punditry as arrogance has made us the current laughing stock, and may well have backed us into a corner when trying to re-organsise the playing staff.

Let's hope the dust does indeed settle and they don't follow up their initial ignominious debut in the game with another calamitous transfer window. Neymar anyone?!

I think the hiring of Potter was the a good idea, which in hindsight we can look back on and say it failed miserably. Could have gone either way but not going to hold that against them too much. 

The hiring of experienced footballing heads with Winstanley, Lawrence, Shields etc. was absolutely needed and something that should have been done under Roman's tenure many years before. 

Hoarding of some of the best young talent about and lowering the overall age of our incredibly aged squad should also have been done under Roman. 

Our FFP 'debacle' has been covered several times on other threads. We're in this position because of the previous ownership. From an FFP perspective the transfer fees spent is minimal when amortised over their contract lengths. If anyting this is a positive from the ownership as with the new rule changes to amortisation of transfer fees no club will be able to do that again.

Realistically i think the only thing they've got really wrong was the summer transfer window with the Cucurella/Sterling/Fofana/Koulibaly contracts. As all good students do though they've learned from their mistakes and our January window was fantastic with much more sensible contracts being offered.

5 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

I think the hiring of Potter was the a good idea, which in hindsight we can look back on and say it failed miserably. Could have gone either way but not going to hold that against them too much. 

The hiring of experienced footballing heads with Winstanley, Lawrence, Shields etc. was absolutely needed and something that should have been done under Roman's tenure many years before. 

Hoarding of some of the best young talent about and lowering the overall age of our incredibly aged squad should also have been done under Roman. 

Our FFP 'debacle' has been covered several times on other threads. We're in this position because of the previous ownership. From an FFP perspective the transfer fees spent is minimal when amortised over their contract lengths. If anyting this is a positive from the ownership as with the new rule changes to amortisation of transfer fees no club will be able to do that again.

Realistically i think the only thing they've got really wrong was the summer transfer window with the Cucurella/Sterling/Fofana/Koulibaly contracts. As all good students do though they've learned from their mistakes and our January window was fantastic with much more sensible contracts being offered.

That's your opinion and that is fine. I have a slightly different take on events and the history surrounding these events but again this just opinion.

Hopefully you are right and all the points you make are proven to have been the right decisions by the club.

• The only facts that we do know are that the new ownership (which we very much needed and were thankful for) either relieved virtually all club staff of their jobs upon joining or they left anyway. 
• The club have spent approaching 600m which will have an impact on the 1.75bn that was committed over a 10 year period.
• We are on our third manager (excluding Bruno) since the takeover.
• We have replaced internal positions with multiple staff that are starting to influence recruitment. 
• We have an overstocked squad that all commentators seem to be saying must be trimmed for the manager to work effectively. 
• Our current FFP situation is unclear but a number of the players that we have are on inflated wages that currently most other clubs are put off by or the transfer fees that we are expecting are also putting off possible suitors.
• We have a group of young players that we have bought, some of which may prove to be elite players. We don't know this yet.

 

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7 hours ago, azpi28 said:

 

Would honestly be a KDB level mistake if we can't convince him to stay. 

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Would honestly be a KDB level mistake if we can't convince him to stay. 

i expect him to start with Fofana in a back 4, rotating with Thiago 

Future captain!! Play him and let him grow just as JT did. 

21 minutes ago, azpi28 said:

i expect him to start with Fofana in a back 4, rotating with Thiago 

As do I, won't be easy though because Badiashile was our best CB last season and occupies the same role.

41 minutes ago, azpi28 said:

i expect him to start with Fofana in a back 4, rotating with Thiago 

Yep he’s a Pochettino type player young hunger and someone he can mould, I definitely see him as one of our main players next season. We really have some good CB now young and so much room to grow.

2 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

As do I, won't be easy though because Badiashile was our best CB last season and occupies the same role.

As much as I like Badiashille if Colwill hits his full potential it will be a no contest.

That said, maybe Pochettino will see Levi as his Vertonghen, ala someone he can alternate between CB and LB depending on tactical set up and squad availability.