Everything that's been said has been about playing time. He publicly stated he wants to play and make the Euros.

I think he's under the opinion he is third choice for that LCB spot behind Silva and Badashile. 

 

3 hours ago, axman2526 said:

If he is as good as he thinks he is, and I agree I think he is on his way to be our own Maldini, then he takes Badiashile place and we get him to sign a new deal as he plays most games.

Similar things were being said about Tomori when he first broke through into the first team. Look how that turned out.

Colwill has only just started out and still has an awful lot to prove. I know we  all want this kid to be the bomb but IMO comparisons with JT and Maldini are laughable really.

27 minutes ago, just said:

Similar things were being said about Tomori when he first broke through into the first team. Look how that turned out.

Colwill has only just started out and still has an awful lot to prove. I know we  all want this kid to be the bomb but IMO comparisons with JT and Maldini are laughable really.

Is a bold prediction I grant you. I just feel he will turn out to be a top, top defender. Whether he stays here or does it somewhere else.

 

I also felt James was going to turn in to a special player, that was laughable when I compared him to former greats while he was at Wigan too.

5 hours ago, Valerie said:

Not this again  When clubs offer insane money, it's not surprising most of them will take it. They view a club as just an employer, just like we do with our jobs. It's only the supporters who stay faithful to a club. They're not many players left who spend their entire career at one club.

that's literally the definition of a mercenary

you don't have to spend your entire career at one club to still have some dignity left at the end 

i know it's not realistic but hey who cares 

most of modern footballers are infatile little boys and not real men 

Edited July 3, 20233 yr by azpi28

Hope he stays and kicks on... Great potential but needs to wait for his time. Silva is on his last legs

36 minutes ago, Conte said:

Hope he stays and kicks on... Great potential but needs to wait for his time. Silva is on his last legs

Silva is in his last season.  He could probably play a decent game without legs.  He's great.  Silva loves Chelsea and living in London, you can just feel it from him.  But yeah, it is time for Levi Colwill to do it. He could be the new Mr.Chelsea that we want/need.  He is a leader.  We want him to do it.  We are willing him to do it. All comparisons to other greats of the past, seem silly at this point, but it also does happen.  James is a recent example of that.  Colwill joined Chelsea at the under-9 level. Which is madness when you think about it.  He is now 20.

9 hours ago, azpi28 said:

that's literally the definition of a mercenary

you don't have to spend your entire career at one club to still have some dignity left at the end 

i know it's not realistic but hey who cares 

most of modern footballers are infatile little boys and not real men 

Dignity, puh-lease! We're all mercenaries then, looking to improve our situation. Honestly, why keep pounding that drum. Some modern footballers may be immature (I personally have no idea what "real men" are, and don't women footballers switch clubs BTW?), that doesn't mean they should do what the supporters of the club where they spend their youth think they should do, screaming out words like dignity and loyalty. Our squad currently is and for decades has been loaded with players coming from other clubs. The same is true for practically all clubs in professional football. And again, Colwill hasn't even left the club or decided to run down his contract. You may not like what in the end he decides to do, but it's his career, he can do what he thinks is best for him, not for the easily aggreaved supporters.  

 

Even though it seems the club now values him highly, you can't really blame him for wanting to see how things pan out under Pochettino before committing to a new, long term deal. After all, he probably felt ready last summer but we decided to loan him and buy no less than THREE first-team centre-halves during the season (Fofana, Koulibaly and Badiashile)

Yes, we had to replace Rudiger and Christensen but we could have chosen to trust Colwill there and then. 

Under these circumstances, I would feel a little wary about committing as well

4 hours ago, AndyDowsleftflank said:

Even though it seems the club now values him highly, you can't really blame him for wanting to see how things pan out under Pochettino before committing to a new, long term deal. After all, he probably felt ready last summer but we decided to loan him and buy no less than THREE first-team centre-halves during the season (Fofana, Koulibaly and Badiashile)

Yes, we had to replace Rudiger and Christensen but we could have chosen to trust Colwill there and then. 

Under these circumstances, I would feel a little wary about committing as well

Liverpool are seriously interested apparently. I think we can potentially compete with Pochettino project but the pitfall may be our new and extremely strict wage structure. Liverpool may very well have been in Colwill's ear already with what they are prepared to pay him and I doubt we compete and if we don't he'll leave.

Sets a dangerous precedent if it happens though.

 

3 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Liverpool are seriously interested apparently. I think we can potentially compete with Pochettino project but the pitfall may be our new and extremely strict wage structure. Liverpool may very well have been in Colwill's ear already with what they are prepared to pay him and I doubt we compete and if we don't he'll leave.

Sets a dangerous precedent if it happens though.

 

We can easily match or outpay Liverpol, they're not known for offering crazy wages like City, Utd and Arsenal are these days.

6 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

We can easily match or outpay Liverpol, they're not known for offering crazy wages like City, Utd and Arsenal are these days.

I actually doubt it. Liverpool will quite easily offer him 150k a week and I don't think we get close to that for Colwill despite my opinion being that we should.

It's quite obvious to me that squeezing the wage bill to a bare minimum (relatively speaking) is a primary objective right now.

 

20 hours ago, azpi28 said:

if he is even considering to run down his contract, then yes 

 

 

 

Jesus, players being called snakes  just on what they " might" do , with nothing to back it up apart from pure imagination.

We're very eager to have a go at our own players these days while enticing players from other clubs with offers of better.pay.

Isn't this tapping up? I don't like all these w**kers trying to muscle in on our players like we're Brighton. I suppose we've proven ourselves to be a selling club this summer. Hopefully we value Colwill enough to keep him. 

36 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

I actually doubt it. Liverpool will quite easily offer him 150k a week and I don't think we get close to that for Colwill despite my opinion being that we should.

It's quite obvious to me that squeezing the wage bill to a bare minimum (relatively speaking) is a primary objective right now.

 

They've got Konate on £70k a week, i doubt they're going to give a 19 year old double what he's on. 

7 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

Jesus, players being called snakes  just on what they " might" do , with nothing to back it up apart from pure imagination.

We're very eager to have a go at our own players these days while enticing players from other clubs with offers of better.pay.

there is a difference between a Ecuadorian who has played one season in the PL and a player who has been at your club since age 9

1 hour ago, azpi28 said:

there is a difference between a Ecuadorian who has played one season in the PL and a player who has been at your club since age 9

That Ecuadorian was at his previous club from the age of 13 before he went to Brighton..

The justification of the abuse of Mount gets more ludicrous by the day.

Standing ovation for Gerrard at our stadium and abuse for a player that we accept millions for and sell him on.

Football is a job. It is not family. For mount to change jobs after 18 years is probably great for him. Lev, who knows. Negotiations even last season were touchy. Badiashile hasn’t quite done enough to nail down a spot and if I was Pochettino id be thinking about keeping Silva  in reserve. 

29 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

That Ecuadorian was at his previous club from the age of 13 before he went to Brighton..

The justification of the abuse of Mount gets more ludicrous by the day.

Standing ovation for Gerrard at our stadium and abuse for a player that we accept millions for and sell him on.

unlike the PL the Ecuadorian league isn't the pinnacle of football, if you any good you go to europe and besides you really support that club by making that transfer (financially) 

and i wasn't talking about Mount i was talking about Colwill 

5 minutes ago, ozboy said:

Football is a job. It is not family. For mount to change jobs after 18 years is probably great for him. Lev, who knows. Negotiations even last season were touchy. Badiashile hasn’t quite done enough to nail down a spot and if I was Pochettino id be thinking about keeping Silva  in reserve. 

it should be family. At least Pochettino seems to think so from what i read 

yeah great for Mount, maybe he can start beating his girlfriend as well as an initiation into club culture 

58 minutes ago, azpi28 said:

unlike the PL the Ecuadorian league isn't the pinnacle of football, if you any good you go to europe and besides you really support that club by making that transfer (financially) 

and i wasn't talking about Mount i was talking about Colwill 

it should be family. At least Pochettino seems to think so from what i read 

yeah great for Mount, maybe he can start beating his girlfriend as well as an initiation into club culture 

Clever. We have never been tainted by historical abuse of youngsters, racist abuse of youth players or underage sex ?

1 hour ago, The Rising Sun said:

Clever. We have never been tainted by historical abuse of youngsters, racist abuse of youth players or underage sex ?

not as much as United. they are all degenerates 

Nothing funnier in football than seeing fans getting angry at a player for scenario`s they have invented in their own heads, its ridiculous. 

I am confused what is with the outrage about this Colwill situation. It is very simple. Colwill will talk to Pochettino about his situation especially regarding his status/game time, this is normal situation. 

If you tell him, the plan is to play back 4 and he is the 4th cb, why does he want to stay and why does he want to renew his contract ? 

If he doesn't want to renew than it is better to sell him. 

 

Edited July 5, 20233 yr by Bob stark

Levi Colwill vs Israel :

- 95% pass accuracy
- 2 clearances
- 2 tackles
- 1 blocked shot
- 4/8 duels won
- 3/6 long balls
- Dribbled past 0 times

14 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Levi Colwill vs Israel :

- 95% pass accuracy
- 2 clearances
- 2 tackles
- 1 blocked shot
- 4/8 duels won
- 3/6 long balls
- Dribbled past 0 times

He was solid last night, put himself where he needed to be. Seemed to do more organising than the skipper, Harwood-Bellis. Dragged down an attacker who got past him, giving away a free kick in a dangerous position. Did the same against Portugal. They haven't conceded a goal in the tournament but that, partly, is down to good luck and great goalkeeping by Trafford. He's a talent. There have been chaotic moments, not helped by Garner playing out of position at FB. Spain are going to be a serious test.

The thing with players who are hyped up (especially British players) is that they rarely ever reach the heights. I'm thinking in recent memory: Sturridge, Rashford, Deli Ali, Lingard, Mount, Gilmour, Barkley, mceachran, Wilshere, the list probably goes on.

Yh sure we have Reece (subject to injuries) but I would say odds show he's more likely to not be the be all and end all. I haven't seen him play a lot so jury still out for me but he's clearly a good player on paper. 

I get the feeling he's already one foot out the door in which case I'd rather we let him go than hold him captive if he doesn't want to be here.

Edited July 6, 20233 yr by ssur