August 20, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Jangz said: I think we had sold matic for 1.5 mil to buy him back for 24.. 12 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said: Exactly my point in the initial post. Spot on I know we did, but I don't have any regrets about it. I watched Matic in youth games back in 2010-2011 when Josh McEachran was our hot prospect, and Matic was bang average. He would never have become the player he was if he had stayed here, him going to Benfica was good for us because we got to buy him back without touching his release clause, won two titles with him just to shift him on at double the fee to United when he was sh*t. No regrets on that one at all in my eyes.
August 20, 20232 yr Pep mentioned his name when talking up Newcastle in the pre-game. If Pep knows your name when you are 18, you are a good player. I know it's all football business, but need a couple of clauses just in case he becomes another KDB case.
August 20, 20232 yr 44 minutes ago, Zeta said: Has he actually gone yet, or is it still rumours? Deal agreed. Loan with obligation to buy. With a sell-on clause included.
August 20, 20232 yr Looking forward to buying him back for £800m in 3 years and selling off the entire Cobham complex to fund it.
August 20, 20232 yr On 18/08/2023 at 13:59, RMH said: With the LB position, I could agree, but not with the CM. I did like Hall when he played last season as LWB, I thought he carried danger and got into good positions to score (even though he missed some very good chances, expected given his age). I haven't seen him play in the midfield, but he hasn't played there under several coaches (and he won't be playing there in Newcastle either), so I don't think that he is a better midfielder than any of the ones we've got now. Do you think that he is better than Gallagher, Enzo, Caicedo or Lavia? So he'd be fifth choice for one of the 3 CM spots? Plenty of game time.
August 20, 20232 yr On 18/08/2023 at 14:15, Argo said: And on the flip side, all the fans going mad about this sale (which for the record I agree is an error) would be raging about us signing an 18 year old with 12 career appearances for that price. They wouldn't, they'd see a fancy foreign name and be talking about how they watched him in an U-14's game in 2018 against Palmeiras and they've always known he'd be destined for greatness.
August 20, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said: So he'd be fifth choice for one of the 3 CM spots? Plenty of game time. If, big if, he was seen as a CM by the coach, and none has seen him as such just yet.
August 22, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, evissy said: One more Cobham kid sold. Loan first with obligation to buy. We can't keep and play them all. If they feel they'll get more minutes elsewhere, all the power to them. The academy has done its job training them for a career in football.
August 22, 20232 yr 34 minutes ago, evissy said: One more Cobham kid sold. Loan first with obligation to buy. Not an obligation but an option according to the Club's statement https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/hall-departs-on-loan Quote Lewis Hall has left Chelsea and joined Newcastle United on loan for the season, with the Magpies holding an option to make that move permanent. Now, they'll probably buy him and we will regret it, but as fas as I understand the Club statement, it is not an obligation.
August 22, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, RMH said: Not an obligation but an option according to the Club's statement https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/hall-departs-on-loan Now, they'll probably buy him and we will regret it, but as fas as I understand the Club statement, it is not an obligation. This is what the Newcastle web site says : "The deal includes an obligation for the Magpies to make the transfer permanent next summer based on performance-related criteria." I wonder what the "performance-related criteria" are ? That he is still breathing perhaps ? 🙂 I think he's permanently gone. Too much noise about Toon being his boyhood club etc etc
August 22, 20232 yr It had been reported as an obligation to buy with a sell-on clause. Just shows how much B.S. circulates in the ether. At least this clarifies things. EDIT. Now Sexyfootball posts an alternative! FFS. Edited August 22, 20232 yr by dermott I blame Sexyfootball
August 22, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, dermott said: EDIT. Now Sexyfootball posts an alternative! FFS. 🙂 https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/newcastle-united-sign-lewis-hall/ 2nd sentence of the announcement ...
August 22, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, dermott said: Mmmm. Presumably performance-related means (or includes) starts? More than likely.
August 22, 20232 yr 51 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said: This is what the Newcastle web site says : "The deal includes an obligation for the Magpies to make the transfer permanent next summer based on performance-related criteria." I wonder what the "performance-related criteria" are ? That he is still breathing perhaps ? 🙂 I think he's permanently gone. Too much noise about Toon being his boyhood club etc etc Agree that the performance-related criteria are the crux. If he's brilliant, they sign him on a permanent; if he's sh*te, they'll send him back to us.
August 22, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Valerie said: We can't keep and play them all. If they feel they'll get more minutes elsewhere, all the power to them. The academy has done its job training them for a career in football. Ob-la-di, ob-la-da Life goes on, brah La, la, how the life goes on
August 22, 20232 yr So newcastle get him for 28m, why so cheap? and we bow down and pay what ever the seller wants plus about another 20%. I'm no accountant but wtf is it with us.
August 22, 20232 yr An obligation to buy based on performance-related criteria surely has to mean his performance. If they like him, they buy. If not ...
August 22, 20232 yr If he does well (and all our left-backs suffer the kind of injury jinx that's currently ravaging the club) and we decide next summer we'd rather keep him than take the money, does that get overridden by their obligation to buy him?
August 22, 20232 yr 26 minutes ago, dermott said: An obligation to buy based on performance-related criteria surely has to mean his performance. If they like him, they buy. If not ... It had better not be our performance Edited August 22, 20232 yr by Valerie
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