20 minutes ago, Carloseyebrow said:

I will never support the notion that it's better to see us lose if it forces a change of personnel within the management or team.

We've all seen tough times over the years, and this is surely a massive test for the club and us as supporters.

Change of owner, manager, also people like Petr Cech and Marina leaving are so de-stabilising, but it is now more than ever we need to have a bit of backbone amongst ourselves and f**king support the entire playing team and backroom staff.

I'm not suggesting that Potter is the right man, current form (a few months in fairness) suggests he is maybe in above his head. Nor am I suggesting all the players are right for our team, there are a few I've not felt are right for this league.

But we have to stick together, because unless Boehly changes his mind Potter is here for a while.

 

That's part of the problem Carlo. A proportion, a very, very high proportion of "fans" on here. Have not seen tough times. Ever. They have no point of reference to what we are going through now.

6 minutes ago, smileysmiles said:

Seriously stop blaming players, are some good enough who knows we have a terrible manager.

As bad as Potter is, pretending all our players are really good and only victims of the coach is rubbish. Havertz for one should try a different sport. Fly fishing looks more of his kind of thing.

6 minutes ago, smileysmiles said:

Seriously stop blaming players, are some good enough who knows we have a terrible manager.

So how many goals did Havertz score under Tuchel when he played as a 9? I’ve seen over 30 managers come and go since the Doc and seen some bad centre forwards. Havertz is on that list. A new manager is not going to make him a better scorer so stop blaming the manager for the player’s weaknesses. If Potter is at fault it is for continuing to play Havertz when PEA and Sterling are more productive goal scorers. 

8 minutes ago, just said:

That's part of the problem Carlo. A proportion, a very, very high proportion of "fans" on here. Have not seen tough times. Ever. They have no point of reference to what we are going through now.

Very well said! There were days when only 10,000 of us went to the Bridge when we were challenging for relegation to what was the 3rd division so this is a little blip. As recently as 15-16 we finished 10th and we didn’t look any better than we do now. Too many short or non-existent memories on here. 

12 minutes ago, just said:

That's part of the problem Carlo. A proportion, a very, very high proportion of "fans" on here. Have not seen tough times. Ever. They have no point of reference to what we are going through now.

This is a weird justification of backing a loser of a manager. So because you have experienced the tough times, you are willing to go through another tough time just to have the right to say "I survived 5 relegations with Chelsea, I'm a proper fan!"

47 minutes ago, JJ8 said:

What did today Lukaku? Oh, NOTHING.

Inter Fans are already pissed off from him

Wel after they sub him the team lost. So maybe they play better with him in the team.

15 minutes ago, Carloseyebrow said:

Nibs all of what you're saying is true, all I'm trying to get across fairly poorly by all accounts is we need to support the club through this shocking period.

I've never said Potter was the answer (allegedly I'm a possible fan boy !) in actual fact I've never felt he was right for us, clearly it's getting to a cliff edge now for him I'd say.

Losing today is a kick in the sweeneys on top of many kicks.

Plenty of ways to support the club, voicing our frustrations at the board to get rid of a manager like this is definitely a good way to support the club. This is so we can get on the right track sooner than later, the longer we stick with this rubbish the worse it's going to get for us. 

I can't stand this "we have nothing to lose so just let him manage for the rest of the season", people were saying that with Lampard two years ago. 

It's time for the Adults on the Chelsea Board, the Chelsea Management Team & the Players to stand up to what's wrong with our Club right now.  It's staring us in the face in every game & with every record we lose - everybody is just Pottering about.  Grow a pair all.

Edited February 26, 20233 yr by Matt True Blue

That's how low we've sunk, losing to that lot.

1 minute ago, BS66 said:

Very well said! There were days when only 10,000 of us went to the Bridge when we were challenging for relegation to what was the 3rd division so this is a little blip. As recently as 15-16 we finished 10th and we didn’t look any better than we do now. Too many short or non-existent memories on here. 

A blip? You do realize with the money we have gone into debt in, if we flounder in relegation spaces, the threat of liquidation becomes real right?

4 minutes ago, Deino said:

This is a weird justification of backing a loser of a manager. So because you have experienced the tough times, you are willing to go through another tough time just to have the right to say "I survived 5 relegations with Chelsea, I'm a proper fan!"

This nails it for me.

Like we should somehow appreciate Potter because he's about to take us back to the dark ages of Save The Bridge and what not. Feck off with that.

I do want to give a special thanks to everyone who wanted Potter here though. Unbelieveable!

2 minutes ago, BS66 said:

Very well said! There were days when only 10,000 of us went to the Bridge when we were challenging for relegation to what was the 3rd division so this is a little blip. As recently as 15-16 we finished 10th and we didn’t look any better than we do now. Too many short or non-existent memories on here. 

I was there in the 70s. Club had no resources for buying players, was still more entertaining going to matches  than watching this fare albeit remotely on TV upon my part. I’m all in favour of backing ones manager but it has to be the right manager. Clearly GP is not the right manager unless I’m missing something and not understanding the club’s project fully?  Also no shame in admitting one made a mistake and correcting it in any walk of life. Arrogance and ego can sometimes get in the way of informed decision making - we all know that ! 

27 minutes ago, Deino said:

You have to be an absolute WUM to blame this on players alone.

 

You keep defending him after 2 horrific seasons 🙄. Please stop…

he is playing out of his position and no i don’t know what is his best position. But to keep defending game after game … 

this guy need to be sold

 

1 hour ago, abister1 said:

Please look at this from Boehly and GPs perspective. Building a tem especially one that wins something takes time. With GP getting Brighton to 9th in 3yrs surely in 5 years he could comfortably take Chelsea to top 4. We just need the stability right now. It is the most important thing. Sure we only won 20 odd trophies under the last owner with about 50 different managers but can you not see the bigger picture and virtue in being a proper grounded and stable club? 

I am cool with thinking long term but we have to also know when we have made a terrible decision.  We have won 2 of our last 15 Premier league games and haven't scored more than one goal in a game since November.  The fact is if Potter was on a shorter term contract he would have been sacked. 

There is no virtue in sticking with a coach who obviously is clueless and has no game plan. 

2 minutes ago, Deino said:

A blip? You do realize with the money we have gone into debt in, if we flounder in relegation spaces, the threat of liquidation becomes real right?

Blimey, we are not very good , but how do you think that's going to lead to  liquidation ?

We ve been in a lot worse situations in the past, but we got thru it , we'll get through this no problem

 

4 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

Plenty of ways to support the club, voicing our frustrations at the board to get rid of a manager like this is definitely a good way to support the club. This is so we can get on the right track sooner than later, the longer we stick with this rubbish the worse it's going to get for us. 

I can't stand this "we have nothing to lose so just let him manage for the rest of the season", people were saying that with Lampard two years ago. 

Fair enough, I'm not sure too many have voiced the 'let him stay for the season' opinion.

Genuine question, if we get rid of him......then what ?

3 minutes ago, Gcgoal2012 said:

You keep defending him after 2 horrific seasons 🙄. Please stop…

he is playing out of his position and no i don’t know what is his best position. But to keep defending game after game … 

this guy need to be sold

 

I'm not even defending Havertz. He is terrible for us on current form, Lukaku is worse. You want some dogsh*t striker that can't even outscore this Havertz this season

Havertz 2022/23 - 5 goals in the league, 1 goal in the CL

Lukaku 2022/23 - 2 goals in Serie A, 2 goals in the CL

Both terrible but to want Lukaku? That's just mental

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

I reckon we can pick 5 members at random off this forum that could keep a clean sheet against this Chelsea attack. 

So long as @Munkworthis in goal. I hear h3 has the reflexes of a cat....

5 minutes ago, General said:

I was there in the 70s. Club had no resources for buying players, was still more entertaining going to matches  than watching this fare albeit remotely on TV upon my part. I’m all in favour of backing ones manager but it has to be the right manager. Clearly GP is not the right manager unless I’m missing something and not understanding the club’s project fully?  Also no shame in admitting one made a mistake and correcting it in any walk of life. Arrogance and ego can sometimes get in the way of informed decision making - we all know that ! 

It's a great post in fairness, there were some dark days when I was going in the 80's, but we got through it.

I'm like you no longer match day going so I'm not sure I should be telling anyone their business, although it's all opinion at the end of the day.

Do I think he was ever the right choice ? No, I feel we downgraded from Tommy, what I just don't know is where do we go from here on the manager front ?

I think the decision is coming though, these type of football performances can't continue.

2 minutes ago, Deino said:

I'm not even defending Havertz. He is terrible for us on current form, Lukaku is worse. You want some dogsh*t striker that can't even outscore this Havertz this season

Havertz 2022/23 - 5 goals in the league, 1 goal in the CL

Lukaku 2022/23 - 2 goals in Serie A, 2 goals in the CL

Both terrible but to want Lukaku? That's just mental

And Havertz wasn't brought here to be a goalscoring centre forward anyway . Whereas Lukaku was.

9 minutes ago, Carloseyebrow said:

Fair enough, I'm not sure too many have voiced the 'let him stay for the season' opinion.

Genuine question, if we get rid of him......then what ?

I think an interim right now would be a good choice so we can get someone in the summer, someone like Enrique, I can't see us getting Flick at all.

Or we can give Zidane a chance who said he's open to work, give him a punt with the same contract we gave Tuchel 2 seasons ago. Many on here didn't rate Tuchel before he came because PSG was an easy job many said, then he went on to win the biggest trophy you can win in club football.

I would even be open to giving Poch a similar contract, definitely not my first choice, but I rate him far higher than Potter. 

On 19/02/2023 at 15:36, Sconnie Blue said:

Honestly the most predictable 0-0 you could ever bet on. 

 

On 20/02/2023 at 19:00, Munkworth said:

It’s far fetched. You expect Chelsea to score. 

Yep, in our dreams. Potter’s pottering is disrupting team spirit. I’d like to send him back to Brighton….but they wouldn’t have him. 

9 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Blimey, we are not very good , but how do you think that's going to lead to  liquidation ?

We ve been in a lot worse situations in the past, but we got thru it , we'll get through this no problem

 

Granted, it's hyperbolic in the extreme but we are in massive debt with tons of players on new contracts. Our owners this time around doesn't seem the type to bail us out using their own money.

We're a team on a new model that is built on consistent success or thereabouts. 

I'm just saying we're playing with fire keeping a manager that can't get a win

I would expect Potter to be shown the door by this time tomorrow, but then I expected him to have been sacked after the Southampton game. If Todd doesn’t wield the axe now, maybe an exit from the Champions League on Wednesday might do the trick. One thing is for certain……this can not be allowed to go on.

6 minutes ago, Deino said:

Granted, it's hyperbolic in the extreme but we are in massive debt with tons of players on new contracts. Our owners this time around doesn't seem the type to bail us out using their own money.

We're a team on a new model that is built on consistent success or thereabouts. 

I'm just saying we're playing with fire keeping a manager that can't get a win

We didn't make money when we were successful .

If I wanted an investment to make money for myself I wouldn't gamble it on a football club, especially ours !

Strange though, all that record spending on players and we look worse !  Typical Chelsea.

Oh well , what a sh*t day , take care mate