1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said:

I get the frustration - we all are in agreement that Petrovic is more palatable than Sanchez. I also would prefer Petrovic to Sanchez - but I don't think Petrovic is the long term answer.

...and let's be honest - if the likes of Strasbourg, Sunderland and Bournemouth are looking at him - to me, this kind of shows his level. Signing a 5 yr contract at Sunderland, a team very likely to be relegated straight back to the championship is a silly move by the player.

The short version - during his short spell as first choice for us, he didn't look brilliant (steady at best). He did well in the French league - but the fact that no genuinely decent team is sniffing tells a story. Did I read somewhere before that we offered him to Milan as part of a proposal for big Mike - and even they shot us down?

Slight issue with this; Clubs generally don’t tend to pay big money for Goalkeepers unless you are Chelsea. To put it in perspective; Courtouis went to Madrid for £35m, Ederson was signed by City for £34m, and Raya went to Arsenal for £27m. Our £25m asking price is actually steep, and the only clubs paying big money and wages are in the PL.

Unless you are certain he is better than your current goalkeeper, you won’t spend £25m on marginally better.

We all know Petrovic is not at Cech or Courtois level - perhaps not Cudicini either. But he is 100% better than Sanchez, so why are we looking to sell him and keeping the clown?

I guess it is early days. Maybe we are getting rid of both and we will be signing a better keeper, but one thing is for certain. We cannot go into the new season with Sanchez as our No. 1 and if we do, we may as well write the season off now, regardless of what other signings we make in other areas.

We need to find another keeper whose surname begins with C.

Edited July 3, 20251 yr by Nibs

8 minutes ago, Nibs said:

We all know Petrovic is not at Cech or Courtois level - perhaps not Cudicini either. But he is 100% better than Sanchez, so why are we looking to sell him and keeping the clown?

I guess it is early days. Maybe we are getting rid of both and we will be signing a better keeper, but one thing is for certain. We cannot go into the new season with Sanchez as our No. 1 and if we do, we may as well write the season off now, regardless of what other signings we make in other areas.

We need to find another keeper whose surname begins with C.

King Cnut, every dyslexic's hero, was a decent stopper apparently.

If we sell Petrovic and start the season with Sanchez as first choice then its a completely moronic decision.

If we sell Petrovic leading to bringing another keeper as first choice then its a good decision.

Petrovic is a decent keeper, but realistically not that much better than Sanchez to make enough of a difference if he had ended up our first choice keeper.

2 minutes ago, dkw said:

If we sell Petrovic and start the season with Sanchez as first choice then its a completely moronic decision.

If we sell Petrovic leading to bringing another keeper as first choice then its a good decision.

Petrovic is a decent keeper, but realistically not that much better than Sanchez to make enough of a difference if he had ended up our first choice keeper.

Agree with this. Well most of it.

The thing for me is if ,and we don’t know if it’s anything more than an if, Petrovic did indeed demand to be installed immediately as number one then sorry for me that sets alarm bells ringing.For the club not to take him irrespective of such comment there has to be a little more to it. Indeed whilst I never managed footballers I always found that dealing with staff who self opinion was way above their worth in the work place wasn’t that difficult to manage in itself it’s when that inflated ego became disruptive or too demanding that a few home truths had to be expressed and rarely did that lead to a long term partnership

If as many believe Petrovic is a better keeper ,and I haven’t seen enough of his performing in France to draw any opinion, then he would have quickly displaced Sanchez.

What is telling is that despite his time at Strasbourg there really doesn’t seem to much of an appetite for middle to high ranking clubs to sign him we know for instance that Utd, that Villa and yes Newcastle want keepers but his name hasn’t been linked with any of them. Look wider and clubs like Bournemouth & WHU amongst others are looking for keepers and yet again his name isn’t being mentioned.Is it they don’t rate his skill set highly enough? Or maybe even his attitude post Strasbourg have put them off him.

Edited July 3, 20251 yr by terraloon

1 minute ago, terraloon said:

Agree with this. Well most of it.

The thing for me is if ,and we don’t know if it’s anything more than an if, Petrovic did indeed demand to be installed immediately as number one then sorry that sets alarm bells ringing.

If as many believe Petrovic is a better keeper ,and I haven’t seen enough of his performing in France to draw any opinion, then he would have quickly displaced Sanchez.

What is telling is that despite his time at Strasbourg there really doesn’t seem to much of an appetite for middle to high ranking clubs to sign him we know for instance that Utd, that Villa and yes Newcastle want keepers but his name hasn’t been linked with any of them. Look wider and clubs like Bournemouth & WHU amongst others are looking for keepers and yet again his name isn’t being mentioned.Is it they don’t rate his skill set highly enough? Or maybe even his attitude post Strasbourg have put them off him.

He did displace Sanchez last season, he had no problems. He'd displace Sanchez this season but our moronic board, directors and coach are set on having Sanchez as the number 1 (as they've already said too many times), why would he stay under those conditions knowing that to that lot he'll never get a level playing field?

3 minutes ago, RMH said:

He did displace Sanchez last season, he had no problems. He'd displace Sanchez this season but our moronic board, directors and coach are set on having Sanchez as the number 1 (as they've already said too many times), why would he stay under those conditions knowing that to that lot he'll never get a level playing field?

Did he displace or did he just deputise?

Sanchez was injured for 133 days at the end of the 23/24 season and yes Petrovic played by virtue of those injuries. Me, you, indeed save Poch who made the decisions we have no idea if he would have been first choice if Sanchez had been fit.

I certainly don’t rate Sanchez but far too many are making out that Petrovic is a top class goalkeeper. Yet as I point out elsewhere even though clubs in the top half of the PL need keepers those clubs don’t seem to be rushing to sign him.

Edited July 3, 20251 yr by terraloon

11 minutes ago, terraloon said:

Did he displace or did he just deputise?

Sanchez was injured for 133 days at the end of the 23/24 season and yes Petrovic played by virtue of those injuries. Me, you, indeed save Poch who made the decisions we have no idea if he would have been first choice if Sanchez had been fit.

I certainly don’t rate Sanchez but far too many are making out that Petrovic is a top class goalkeeper. Yet as I point out elsewhere even though clubs in the top half of the PL need keepers those clubs don’t seem to be rushing to sign him.

Sanchez returned from injury and did not displace Petrovic. Poch kept Petrovic on goal.

1 hour ago, RMH said:

Sanchez returned from injury and did not displace Petrovic. Poch kept Petrovic on goal.

Following his appearance against Everton on 10/12/23 when he was injured Sanchez returned to full time training on Feb 15 2023. . The next game after that was against Man City on 17/2/24 when Bettinelli was on the bench

Sanchez was again injured on 27/3/24.

Between 17/2/24 and 27/3 when he was again injured we played 3 games

2/3/ 24 Petrovic was in goal in a 2-2 draw with Brentford. Sanchez on bench

11/3/ 24 Petrovic was in goal in a 3-2 win against Newcastle. Sanchez was on the bench

17/3/24 Sanchez was in goal in a 4-2 win against Leicester Petrovic was on the bench.

There were no more games before Sanchez was injured on 27/3 and was out till seasons end.

Of course it’s speculation as to who would have been chosen post the 17/3/24.

Maybe it would have been Sanchez, maybe it would have been Petrovic but based on the last game Sanchez when fit he started.

Yes it was an FA cup game so that may have been the reason why Sanchez started but sorry save just two games where Sanchez was on the bench following what was reported as having had a hand injury when Petrovic started isn’t close to proof positive that he was “ displaced “ as opposed to being deputy.

Edited July 3, 20251 yr by terraloon

3 hours ago, dkw said:

If we sell Petrovic and start the season with Sanchez as first choice then its a completely moronic decision.

If we sell Petrovic leading to bringing another keeper as first choice then its a good decision.

Petrovic is a decent keeper, but realistically not that much better than Sanchez to make enough of a difference if he had ended up our first choice keeper.

I believe the plan is to sell Petrovic and then pick up Maignan on a free next season.

Not a bad plan until you remember you are resigning yourself to another season of Sanchez.

1 minute ago, Remodez said:

I believe the plan is to sell Petrovic and then pick up Maignan on a free next season.

Not a bad plan until you remember you are resigning yourself to another season of Sanchez.

It's a terrible plan for a magnitude of reasons in my opinion.

• We won't be the only club after him at that time.

• We can't compete against these clubs regarding signing on fees.

• What if we aren't in a Champions League place come January where we can sign him on a pre agreement?

We are honestly going to experience 2 more seasons of Sanchez at the least.

Edited July 3, 20251 yr by Sconnie Blue

Also the fact that Maignan isn't very good himself.

22 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

It's a terrible plan for a magnitude of reasons in my opinion.

• We won't be the only club after him at that time.

• We can't compete against these clubs regarding signing on fees.

• What if we aren't in a Champions League place come January where we can sign him on a pre agreement?

We are honestly going to experience 2 more seasons of Sanchez at the least.

I am assuming we have already done a Madrid and planned this all out with Maignan already, especially with him saying he wants to join us.

If not then I would agree with you.

25 minutes ago, Remodez said:

I am assuming we have already done a Madrid and planned this all out with Maignan already, especially with him saying he wants to join us.

If not then I would agree with you.

He wants to join now given our current circumstance.

No agent would advise their player to wait when its been reported Champions League football is the biggest determinant for Miagnan, all the while there being a lot of uncertainty about how we as a club will perform this season. If we're 7th come January, I doubt he signs. Bayern and Barca will 100% be sniffing about given they love a free player.

2 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

He wants to join now given our current circumstance.

No agent would advise their player to wait when its been reported Champions League football is the biggest determinant for Miagnan, all the while there being a lot of uncertainty about how we as a club will perform this season. If we're 7th come January, I doubt he signs. Bayern and Barca will 100% be sniffing about given they love a free player.

How about we let one of them have Sanchez for free?

1 hour ago, Nibs said:

How about we let one of them have Sanchez for free?

Nah there has to be a fee involved.......I say we offer them £10m to take him,

Sunderland really the only interested club? €25m supposedly.

33 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Sunderland really the only interested club? €25m supposedly.

Most of the clubs in the EPL already have established keepers. Seeing as most clubs don't sign a bajillion keepers like we do, Sunderland might be the only one in this window.

In saying that though, if he performs in Sunderland, expect Utd to come in for him the season after with 50M the asking price

15 minutes ago, Deino said:

Most of the clubs in the EPL already have established keepers. Seeing as most clubs don't sign a bajillion keepers like we do, Sunderland might be the only one in this window.

In saying that though, if he performs in Sunderland, expect Utd to come in for him the season after with 50M the asking price

I think that there at least five clubs in the PL looking for keepers. Newcastle, Villa, Bournemouth, WHU and Leeds

Then you have the likes of Utd who almost certainly will be sooner rather than later.

I saw a fact today that Areta at Arsenal has signed more keepers than he has forwards !

Seven goalkeepers: Runarsson, Ryan, Ramsdale, Turner, Raya, Neto, Kepa 

Six forwards: Willian, Jesus, Trossard, Marquinhos, Havertz, Sterling

Edited July 3, 20251 yr by terraloon

2 minutes ago, terraloon said:

I think that there at least five clubs in the PL looking for keepers. Newcastle, Villa, Bournemouth, WHU and Leeds

Then you have the likes of Utd who almost certainly will be sooner rather than later.

I saw a fact today that Areta at Arsenal has signed more keepers than he has forwards !

Fair enough, I stand corrected. Kudus trade for Petrovic perhaps? Might throw in a Jackson in there as well

let's be honest - if the likes of Strasbourg, Sunderland and Bournemouth are looking at him - to me, this kind of shows his level. Signing a 5 yr contract at Sunderland, a team

If Sunderland and Bournemouth are his level, you have to wonder what our level is when we have Brighton's 3rd choice keeper as our number 1

Edited July 3, 20251 yr by The Rising Sun
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1 minute ago, The Rising Sun said:

If Sunderland and Bournemouth are his level, you have to wonder what our level is when we have Brighton's 3rd choice keeper as our number 1

Well fourth best team in the PL, UEFA conference winners and CWC quarter finalists

13 minutes ago, terraloon said:

Well fourth best team in the PL, UEFA conference winners and CWC quarter finalists

True.The keeper whose level was 3rd choice for Brighton has done well at our Europa Conference League winning team.

13 minutes ago, terraloon said:

Well fourth best team in the PL, UEFA conference winners and CWC quarter finalists

True.The keeper whose level was 3rd choice for Brighton has done well at our Europa Conference League winning team.

13 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

True.The keeper whose level was 3rd choice for Brighton has done well at our Europa Conference League winning team.

Never was third choice at Brighton . He did indeed get relegated to the bench but when he was fit he either played or was on the bench.

I like most think he has too many mistakes in him but when some simply make up things about his time at Brighton when the facts tell a different story then to a degree they lose the argument

In his last season at Brighton (22/23) he started 23 PL games , was on the bench for 10 and was injured for 5