My first reaction was 'for f**k's sake, I hate that they've sold these dimwit footballers on their asinine managementsprach', then I realised it was probably even more vacuous than that:

4 hours ago, dermott said:

TT has a problem with Palmer, mainly his attitude. Miguel Delaney in The Independent reported it as did The Guardian. Ditto Harry Maguire according to Delaney. I couldn't be happier that Palmer is getting a rest.

How do you know Miguel Delaney of The Guardian are not bullsh*tting us with their comments?

He has not been good enough to go.

Whether it is his injuries or his attitude he has been really poor this season.

2 hours ago, axman2526 said:

He has not been good enough to go.

Whether it is his injuries or his attitude he has been really poor this season.

For the last 18 mths.

Only himself to blame, whereas the Joao Pedro one, is more a case of politics, and the fall out being whether Chelsea right for him. This one certainly isn’t the clubs fault, he’s just been way off it for so long, as we know. Funny because Nike and all these brands went ALL in on him, even the ads for the England kit, he’s the main star, massive fumble there, and you wonder what the long term effects this will do to his brand.

6 hours ago, Term_X said:

Only himself to blame, whereas the Joao Pedro one, is more a case of politics, and the fall out being whether Chelsea right for him. This one certainly isn’t the clubs fault, he’s just been way off it for so long, as we know. Funny because Nike and all these brands went ALL in on him, even the ads for the England kit, he’s the main star, massive fumble there, and you wonder what the long term effects this will do to his brand.

Agreed to some extent, but the effort and focus in the WCC pretty much at vacation time — City where there too but having pool parties.
Perhaps politics also played a part in the way we played the WCC, which in turn did affect the rest of the season as well as Palmer specifically?

I cannot unsee the rest and blindly trust the club here.

6 hours ago, Scott said:

Saw Tull live a couple of weeks ago (well... Ian Anderson and younger associates playing Tull songs). Still good, and they played (some of) Thick as a Brick.

32 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

Saw Tull live a couple of weeks ago (well... Ian Anderson and younger associates playing Tull songs). Still good, and they played (some of) Thick as a Brick.

Crikey, he's 78. Say it isn't so. Tull has had more members in and out the door over the years than you could count.

Keep seeing talk of him not having any rest over the last 2 seasons, but he had 2 months away from football between Sept-Nov.

2 minutes ago, markpitts said:

Keep seeing talk of him not having any rest over the last 2 seasons, but he had 2 months away from football between Sept-Nov.

Injured. And, despite what he says, it's arguable that he hasn't been 100% since.

11 minutes ago, markpitts said:

Keep seeing talk of him not having any rest over the last 2 seasons, but he had 2 months away from football between Sept-Nov.

Working back from an injury is not 2 months away from football.

1 hour ago, dermott said:

Crikey, he's 78. Say it isn't so. Tull has had more members in and out the door over the years than you could count.

Don't worry, he was still spry enough to pull off his usual onstage capering.

That said, some grumpiness crept in at the beginning: before the gig started they showed a two-minute animated clip of some farmyard animals asking the audience not to film the band with their phones. Was quite funny to see an audience of average age 65 be lectured like schoolchildren.

2 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

Don't worry, he was still spry enough to pull off his usual onstage capering.

That said, some grumpiness crept in at the beginning: before the gig started they showed a two-minute animated clip of some farmyard animals asking the audience not to film the band with their phones. Was quite funny to see an audience of average age 65 be lectured like schoolchildren.

He's been notoriously grumpy forever. Hired and fired often without explanation. Bless him.

He didn't deserve to go because he's been playing shyte for a long time...

50% of that is down to him and 50% is down to the "team" not turning up this season.

Same for JP.

Glad James isn't injured this time - deserves to go.

I think people miss the point when they talk about who "deserves" to go. Pick the players who are 'kind' and 'hard working' if you want. But you win games at tournaments playing players who have the most natural ability. Cole Palmer has vastly more ability and skill than many of the players picked by Tuchel.

3 hours ago, TheCeleryKing said:

I think people miss the point when they talk about who "deserves" to go. Pick the players who are 'kind' and 'hard working' if you want. But you win games at tournaments playing players who have the most natural ability. Cole Palmer has vastly more ability and skill than many of the players picked by Tuchel.

I said a few months back that if Palmer doesn't go, then England won't stand a chance at winning the world cup. This isn't me flip flopping and saying he needs to go either, but you need that big game moment player with a bit of extra something special to win these tournaments.

There are a lot of very good players in that team, Kane is a world class striker, but there isn't a player in that team capable of just stepping up, making the game their own and just winning it the same way Palmer won the CWC for us. Palmer is the only player in England capable of it, but he's in awful form.

26 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

I said a few months back that if Palmer doesn't go, then England won't stand a chance at winning the world cup. This isn't me flip flopping and saying he needs to go either, but you need that big game moment player with a bit of extra something special to win these tournaments.

So you don’t see Noni Madueke winning a corner in the last minute of the game, for Jordan Henderson to send it in to be met by Dan Burn to bring it home?

Quite possibly the weakest WC squad of my lifetime.

9 minutes ago, The Boehly Babes said:

So you don’t see Noni Madueke winning a corner in the last minute of the game, for Jordan Henderson to send it in to be met by Dan Burn to bring it home?

Quite possibly the weakest WC squad of my lifetime.

Tuchel picked the players based on his system, and it could work. I’m intrigued to see how we play this summer.

Look at the Beckham days. The starting 11 was absolutely stacked with world class players but we never gotten far. It’s not all about the names.

Not many match winners bar Kane and Saka.

As a Scot I’m not going to comment too much on the England squad but England managers in the past have picked the best players in each position with maybe 1 wildcard in each squad.

Italy in particular and Germany have traditionally went more on how players fit into a system. That hasn’t worked out too badly for them historically and this squad was always going to be picked this way by Tuchel.

Granted, I wouldn’t have went as mental but he just might get it right.

At least you don’t have f**king Lyndon Dykes up front!

48 minutes ago, 19seventyone said:

As a Scot I’m not going to comment too much on the England squad but England managers in the past have picked the best players in each position with maybe 1 wildcard in each squad.

Italy in particular and Germany have traditionally went more on how players fit into a system. That hasn’t worked out too badly for them historically and this squad was always going to be picked this way by Tuchel.

Granted, I wouldn’t have went as mental but he just might get it right.

At least you don’t have f**king Lyndon Dykes up front!

You could have picked play off winner Ollie McBurnie.

Tuchel will get Eng knocked out in round 1.. international football is slow and boring - teams sit back and wait for mistakes - in games like this you need players who can create something out of nothing.. not to follow a system- this is mental.

6 hours ago, 19seventyone said:

As a Scot I’m not going to comment too much on the England squad but England managers in the past have picked the best players in each position with maybe 1 wildcard in each squad.

Italy in particular and Germany have traditionally went more on how players fit into a system. That hasn’t worked out too badly for them historically and this squad was always going to be picked this way by Tuchel.

Granted, I wouldn’t have went as mental but he just might get it right.

At least you don’t have f**king Lyndon Dykes up front!

Harsh but true.

Incredible seeing some our fans wanted Cole sold, absolutely insane.

Even worse seeing the more emotionally unstable ones ttat would rather sell him and keep Enzo. Probably the same loons that wanted us to sell Reece James.