5 minutes ago, JM7 said:

i see your point but often the best players don’t make the best managers. Zidane is an exception rather than the rule.

By all accounts, Resenoir has done a good job wherever he has been. Even at Hull, he overachieved but fell just short. I’m not saying that means he deserves the Chelsea job but hopefully shows with the right support, he could be decent.

Perhaps.

Personally I will still be surprised if he made it to the end of the season. I hope I'm wrong but I can only see train wreck currently. It would not surprise me to see him in the betting for being in the batch of the next 3-5 PL managers sacked or resigning, even now. Farke, Frank, Hurtzeler, Iraola, Amorin, Rosenior. Hmm, wouldn't be a surprise.

Can’t believe anybody on here is seriously considering Rosenoir as a viable option for manager of Chelsea FC a team that’s won it all.

Oh my how this mighty club has fallen, farkin joke the owners. Maresca was an unlikeable character and his tactics blew but to pin most of the culpability on the dreadful match day performances on him is farcical. This club is being driven in a non football direction to make some more 💰 for greedy barstools like Egbhali & Boehly and the hedge fund they represent. Meanwhile still some fans who delusionally believe the club is being run / set up like Arse, City or Dippers to challenge for and win EPL titles and UCLs.

Time will prove me correct I’m certain.

1 minute ago, General said:

Can’t believe anybody on here is seriously considering Rosenoir as a viable option for manager of Chelsea FC a team that’s won it all.

Oh my how this mighty club has fallen, farkin joke the owners. Maresca was an unlikeable character and his tactics blew but to pin most of the culpability on the dreadful match day performances on him is farcical. This club is being driven in a non football direction to make some more 💰 for greedy barstools like Egbhali & Boehly and the hedge fund they represent. Meanwhile still some fans who delusionally believe the club is being run / set up like Arse, City or Dippers to challenge for and win EPL titles and UCLs.

Time will prove me correct I’m certain.

Is the faint hope all our on pitch problems are Maresca related and anyone but him will have us playing much better, winning football.

Like you I know reality will bite back on their hopes.

2 hours ago, DarkMata said:

What I don’t understand is if these owners are only interested in profit and improving the value of the club why would you not want the best possible manager? They would get your youth prospects looking worthy of big transfer fees, get the team winning trophies to elevate the clubs value that would help bring in better sponsors etc.

Think they’re just trying to be clever in finding the next big manager rather than just signing one. I mean as a club we’re big enough to take most managers.

What’s Ancelotti doing after the World Cup?

They surely can't really be interested in profit LOL. They do so much dumb sh*t that costs them money !

Also surely you tank the value of the club by driving it into the ground ?

I'm wondering what on earth they actually paid £2.5 billion for ? Most of what they bought has been changed out or sold. Stamford Bridge is left, but surely that's not worth that much, as the CPO own a big chunk right in the middle of the plot, plus the price of the land is set more or less by the prices paid for Stoll Mansions and Earls Court, from memory £80m and £450m respectively (I'd have to look that up to check it but I don't think I'm far off with those figures). Nor could any developer buying Stamford Bridge maximise the plot density by building up, as they are restricted by the Richmond Hill sightline law.

All very strange ...

51 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

Okay, maybe a little harsh. Mid Championship level.

And with regards your last point about support and buy in from the players, life just doesn't work like that. Everybody pre judges. Everybody has ego. Liam Rosenior had a playing career of 393 league matches and a total of 4 goals, 2 of which were for Bristol City in the second Division. He won the FL trophy with Bristol City. Had a total of 11 international caps at U21 and U20 level. He's going to be coaching the likes of Caicedo, world cup winner Fernandez (yeah well its still a fact) big game assassin Cole Palmer, England's best RB Reece James, England U21 Euro winner Levi Colwill, inevitable Ballon D'or winner, at some point, Estevao. Some of these guys have as their other managers Thomas Tuchel, Ancelotti, Deschamps, Scaloni. Will these players listen and support him when it starts going tits? Not convinced tbh.

I don’t get that comparison either. The Championship is certainly one of the most competitive leagues but it severely lacks in quality in my opinion.

The French league is certainly technically better without a doubt.

I’d also say there are lots of top managers whose playing careers amounted to less than Rosenior’s but I do take the point. It’s hardly inspiring stuff.

54 minutes ago, JM7 said:

i see your point but often the best players don’t make the best managers. Zidane is an exception rather than the rule.

By all accounts, Resenoir has done a good job wherever he has been. Even at Hull, he overachieved but fell just short. I’m not saying that means he deserves the Chelsea job but hopefully shows with the right support, he could be decent.

I think it's less about whether he is good or not, but more so him not being ready for football at this level. If he had been at Strasbourg for a couple more years and proven himself, maybe he could have been a Chelsea manager, but this is basically going to be like him being thrown out of the frying pan and into the fire.

27 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

They surely can't really be interested in profit LOL. They do so much dumb sh*t that costs them money !

Also surely you tank the value of the club by driving it into the ground ?

I'm wondering what on earth they actually paid £2.5 billion for ? Most of what they bought has been changed out or sold. Stamford Bridge is left, but surely that's not worth that much, as the CPO own a big chunk right in the middle of the plot, plus the price of the land is set more or less by the prices paid for Stoll Mansions and Earls Court, from memory £80m and £450m respectively (I'd have to look that up to check it but I don't think I'm far off with those figures). Nor could any developer buying Stamford Bridge maximise the plot density by building up, as they are restricted by the Richmond Hill sightline law.

All very strange ...

I feel like they only want "moderate" success, that is, only getting to the Champions League every season to get that Champions League revenue. I doubt they are going to be as ambitious as Roman, who wanted us to challenge for the title and Champions League.

39 minutes ago, General said:

Can’t believe anybody on here is seriously considering Rosenoir as a viable option for manager of Chelsea FC a team that’s won it all.

Oh my how this mighty club has fallen, farkin joke the owners. Maresca was an unlikeable character and his tactics blew but to pin most of the culpability on the dreadful match day performances on him is farcical. This club is being driven in a non football direction to make some more 💰 for greedy barstools like Egbhali & Boehly and the hedge fund they represent. Meanwhile still some fans who delusionally believe the club is being run / set up like Arse, City or Dippers to challenge for and win EPL titles and UCLs.

Time will prove me correct I’m certain.

If we really are run for profit they’re doing a pretty sh*t job at that too. We’ve lost so much on buying crap like Mudryk we’ll never get back. Winning is the best way to make money. Man Utd and Real Madrid didn’t become the most valuable teams in the world from playing sh*t football and trading 16 year olds. Man Utd are currently worse than us but they can still command a big sponsor.

There’s no downside to just being the best football team. Money success and happy fans. There’s no logic to shooting yourselves in the foot by hiring inexperienced managers. It reeks of incompetence and stupidity from the men at the top.

Looks like we’re stuck with the owners for the foreseeable, so I’ll be happy once the directors get the boot. New mangers will just be sticky plasters, unless they strike it lucky with the next manager.

17 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

I feel like they only want "moderate" success, that is, only getting to the Champions League every season to get that Champions League revenue. I doubt they are going to be as ambitious as Roman, who wanted us to challenge for the title and Champions League.

They're certainty not spending moderate success money though.

With the money they've spent on players we could have built the most formidable team the sport has ever seen.

7 minutes ago, DarkMata said:

If we really are run for profit they’re doing a pretty sh*t job at that too. We’ve lost so much on buying crap like Mudryk we’ll never get back.

I agree with you on that, but we’ve had a small but steady succession of posters on here in the last year or two that have been very assured and rather patronising in telling us that we are actually making some sort of profit on all these deals in a complex way that us mere mortals can never understand.

I think this entire thing is a shambles but personally I can't say I'm too gutted at losing Maresca. We're around mid table for expected points and the performances haven't looked great to me. Was far more gutted when we lost Tuchel and even Poch.

Just noticing the thread title says NOW SACKED. But was he sacked or did he walk or did he sort of force them to pay him off with his 48 hours and sick note stuff?

29 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

I feel like they only want "moderate" success, that is, only getting to the Champions League every season to get that Champions League revenue. I doubt they are going to be as ambitious as Roman, who wanted us to challenge for the title and Champions League.

I will be amazed if we make CL this year under Rosenior. I am not even taking Europe as a given now.

2 minutes ago, GarnachoCheese said:

I read somewhere that it was a bizarre clause in his contract where he had to declare interest or approaches.

Presumably the inclusion of a clause like this in an harmonious, trusting, working relationship, would all9w the club to review the existing contract and to maintain competitiveness. Feeds the narrative in situations like this though, I suppose.

Can we poach the Sunderland manager please. The players are so organised and all give 100%, they are enjoying themselves.

ROSENIOR WAS SACKED BY HULL, let that sink in, Strasbourg are 7th in a one team league, the owners only last week were concerned that they were struggling and some on here think he should be given the chance to manage Chelsea, if he has any sense he should say thanks but not at the moment

3 minutes ago, Caps_Lock_King said:

ROSENIOR WAS SACKED BY HULL, let that sink in, Strasbourg are 7th in a one team league, the owners only last week were concerned that they were struggling and some on here think he should be given the chance to manage Chelsea, if he has any sense he should say thanks but not at the moment

He was sacked and came 7th in the Championship I never had any time for Maresca but at least he won the Championship. This guy has only ever finished 7th, which is where he currently is at.

Regis Le Bris has hit the ground running in the PL and he came from Ligue 1 (Lorient) and even got them relegated to Ligue 2 before he was sacked there, so maybe Rosenior can surprise us all ?

5 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Regis Le Bris has hit the ground running in the PL and he came from Ligue 1 (Lorient) and even got them relegated to Ligue 2 before he was sacked there, so maybe Rosenior can surprise us all ?

33 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Regis Le Bris has hit the ground running in the PL and he came from Ligue 1 (Lorient) and even got them relegated to Ligue 2 before he was sacked there, so maybe Rosenior can surprise us all ?

Fair point, as is our current fanbase mentality if it happens they've crucified him before a balls kicked in anger. Fingers crossed 🤞

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39 minutes ago, Blue Pete said:

Fair point, as is our current fanbase mentality if it happens they've crucified him before a balls kicked in anger. Fingers crossed 🤞

Oh no, not like the fanbase has gone through this very same thing 4 times in 3 years. Signing an inexperienced manager well and truly out of his depth. With each one being more inexperienced than the previous.

If Rosenoir doesn’t hit the ground running, I’ll be f**king on him like flies to sh*t.

3 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Regis Le Bris has hit the ground running in the PL and he came from Ligue 1 (Lorient) and even got them relegated to Ligue 2 before he was sacked there, so maybe Rosenior can surprise us all ?

Difference is that Le Bris took over at Sunderland when they were in the Championship with low expectations. So he had some time to settle in without the pressure and build something. Sunderland surprised most people by making it into the playoffs and then getting promoted, and they haven't looked back. Rosenior won't have the luxury of time as he will go straight into the fire. 9 games ahead in January alone.

2 minutes ago, forbzy said:

Difference is that Le Bris took over at Sunderland when they were in the Championship with low expectations. So he had some time to settle in without the pressure and build something. Sunderland surprised most people by making it into the playoffs and then getting promoted, and they haven't looked back. Rosenior won't have the luxury of time as he will go straight into the fire. 9 games ahead in January alone.

And we need someone who can handle the 100m plus personalities and build a tightly knit group of players who will play as a f**king team.

For me, a big one of our "team" problems is Enzo - acts as if he is the captain in waiting and an undroppable player because he's been made to believe that - either by Maresca or the clowns upstairs!

Yes he won the World with Argentina but he's a million miles away from being the next Frank Lampard.