8 minutes ago, dkw said:

Jesus you really have turned into a try hard clown. On to ignore you go.

No rebuttal, just reacting with emotion (again). You know I'm right.

2 hours ago, GarnachoCheese said:

Give the man a Puskas, I swear you’ll never see anything like this again.

Is there a reason you posted images when there's a clear video available from the very same people you got the images from?

5 hours ago, Remodez said:

Is there a reason you posted images when there's a clear video available from the very same people you got the images from?

Yes ^

If I could upload the video, I would. The pictures highlight the open goal and being unchallenged on his right foot. The video doesn’t show anything the still images show at various points. Unless there’s a bicycle kick somewhere that I must have blinked and missed.

Edited December 5, 2025Dec 5 by GarnachoCheese

11 hours ago, GarnachoCheese said:

Yes ^

If I could upload the video, I would. The pictures highlight the open goal and being unchallenged on his right foot. The video doesn’t show anything the still images show at various points. Unless there’s a bicycle kick somewhere that I must have blinked and missed.

The video shows the ball being contested for and a missed clearance by the defender, which clearly tells you why he couldn't have hit it first time.

I did not get the same context from your images.

And I could be wrong as been a while since ive done it but don't believe you have to upload it, should be able to embed the video via a link.

The my two cents in……I thought it was a good finish against Leeds. One of those ones I was actually surprised we scored as it all seemed to happen so quickly.

I’m not a Gittens fan, but the one time he got to the byline we got space and in behind them. Credit there, and good cross. Thought Neto took it well given how quick defenders and goalie were shuffling across.

Never even considered it was an easy tap in until reading comments here - after years of Timo and Jackson, I didn’t think those existed anymore!!

Edited December 6, 2025Dec 6 by PhilH930

4 hours ago, Remodez said:

The video shows the ball being contested for and a missed clearance by the defender, which clearly tells you why he couldn't have hit it first time.

I did not get the same context from your images.

And I could be wrong as been a while since ive done it but don't believe you have to upload it, should be able to embed the video via a link.

Did the defender touch the ball? Why would a ball being completely missed stop you being able to hit it first time? So he can control the ball but opening your foot to direct it towards goal is a physical impossibility? What.

1 hour ago, GarnachoCheese said:

Did the defender touch the ball? Why would a ball being completely missed stop you being able to hit it first time? So he can control the ball but opening your foot to direct it towards goal is a physical impossibility? What.

Are you being difficult on purpose or have you never played football?

He does not know the defender will miss a relatively easy clearance, he is just gambling at the back post just in case, so when the ball arrives to him it is not expected so can’t hit it first time but you can however get it under control fairly quickly which is what he did.

He would have to be able to predict the future for him to set himself up for a first time hit.

7 hours ago, Remodez said:

Are you being difficult on purpose or have you never played football?

He does not know the defender will miss a relatively easy clearance, he is just gambling at the back post just in case, so when the ball arrives to him it is not expected so can’t hit it first time but you can however get it under control fairly quickly which is what he did.

He would have to be able to predict the future for him to set himself up for a first time hit.

Played for Derby academy until I was 17 so I’d say I have a pretty good idea what I’m talking about x

If he’s gambling at the back post for it then why isn’t he ready? Your logic falls on itself.

Edited December 6, 2025Dec 6 by GarnachoCheese

27 minutes ago, GarnachoCheese said:

Played for Derby academy until I was 17 so I’d say I have a pretty good idea what I’m talking about x

If he’s gambling at the back post for it then why isn’t he ready? Your logic falls on itself.

He is ready, hence why he was able to control the ball and score.

You don't set yourself up for a first time hit in this situation as any small nick that moves the ball away from where you anticipated will leave you off balance.

As for today's game I felt he was quite frustrating and I think he missed a relitively good chance as well if I remember right.

Edited December 6, 2025Dec 6 by Remodez

35 minutes ago, Remodez said:

As for today's game I felt he was quite frustrating and I think he missed a relitively good chance as well if I remember right.

Agreed.
On the other hand, my main issue today wasn't with the misses but the overall performance; we simply did not play well enough.

I’ll repeat the point I made in the other thread, but now on the right thread: Neto’s role at Chelsea isn't purely attacking, and that naturally comes with a cost — in concentration, stamina, and how much freedom he can actually take in the final third. I’m not arguing that he deserves a free role; for me, he’s already operating in the role that suits his game best. If he wanted that creative license, he’d realistically need to step down a tier club wise.

The point is that teams always need a player of his profile, someone who blends attacking contribution with the discipline and physical commitment to support the structure. And in that sense, I think he’s a very good version of that player. Garnacho on the left plays with far more direct aggression, same w/ Estevão on the right. Neto complements them by adding that quasi-midfielder presence managers emphasize so often — the wide player who helps bind the side together.

There will be matches where that balance he offers is essential. I have no qualms with the attacking players aside from the fact that some are either too young, still green (not necessarily the same thing), or perhaps not quite as good as we think they will turn out to be. If we go back to D and goalie, the player and roster quality is really very different; the center D is really Everton, Brighton, etc quality. They would at most sit for title contenders, IMO.

Edited December 6, 2025Dec 6 by acaeus

10 hours ago, Remodez said:

He is ready, hence why he was able to control the ball and score.

You don't set yourself up for a first time hit in this situation as any small nick that moves the ball away from where you anticipated will leave you off balance.

I don’t know why reactions are so hard for people to comprehend.

His 2nd half reminded me of Willian today. Brilliant at bringing the ball out of defence and countering, but got everything wrong with the end product.

Just like with Willian, fans will be fooled into thinking this is enough to win fans player of the year, but the goals he has scored isn't enough for me. His lack of consistent quality throughout 90 minutes is still a big problem with his game.

4 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

His 2nd half reminded me of Willian today. Brilliant at bringing the ball out of defence and countering, but got everything wrong with the end product.

Just like with Willian, fans will be fooled into thinking this is enough to win fans player of the year, but the goals he has scored isn't enough for me. His lack of consistent quality throughout 90 minutes is still a big problem with his game.

No denying he isn't top drawer but as it stands, given Maresca is excessively limiting Estevao's playing time, he is the best of a bad bunch. Head and shoulders ahead of Gittens and Garnacho.

On 21/12/2025 at 02:22, Scott Harris said:

His 2nd half reminded me of Willian today. Brilliant at bringing the ball out of defence and countering, but got everything wrong with the end product.

Just like with Willian, fans will be fooled into thinking this is enough to win fans player of the year, but the goals he has scored isn't enough for me. His lack of consistent quality throughout 90 minutes is still a big problem with his game.

Willian is a great comparison, but Willian was ultimately a 3rd choice who on his day could be as good as Hazard, Mata or Pedro i.e he was basically the floor for the quality of wide attackers in the squad.

In this squad, Pedro Neto is apparently the ceiling, and the other two who are better also play best in the exact same position.

I'm seeing some people online say there is beef between Neto and Palmer because Neto won't pass the ball to him. I think that is a load of crap to be honest, the problem is the Neto's decision making.

4 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

I'm seeing some people online say there is beef between Neto and Palmer because Neto won't pass the ball to him. I think that is a load of crap to be honest, the problem is the Neto's decision making.

Wouldn't surprise me, Neto's ego is through the roof. You can see it with his stupid fingers in the ears celebration even when we're losing and throwing his arms in the air whenever he doesn't get the ball passed to him.

14 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

I'm seeing some people online say there is beef between Neto and Palmer because Neto won't pass the ball to him. I think that is a load of crap to be honest, the problem is the Neto's decision making.

Easy solution to this is to ship Neto out in the summer then.

Maresca obviously rates him but he plays RW, the same position as our two best attacking players (CP & Stevie), he’s limiting CP’s efficiency and Stevies minutes.

He’s old by Chelsea standards, the BlueCo PR machine has already been out in force ‘turned down multiple offers etc’ and if we are to challenge seriously he’s the floor of the standard of player we should be looking at (This is a RW chat no need to bring up the shambles that is our LW)

Also as the Cheesey one said seems to have a proper ego.

His stock must be at an all time high, which surely makes him ripe for a sale that will hopefully cover his book value ?

Hopefully we can sell before anyone realises that his output is actually pretty poor. He's having a career year and he might just make double figures in goals at current trajectory.

world Cup year so player valuations can be silly, see Enz Fernandez price... If he and others have a good world cup then the board will call bingo.

Who would actually sign him though? Maybe someone like Utd would be silly enough to offer us big money.

Can't believe the criticism. I know he had a shocker against Newcastle but he's arguably our player of the season so far.

24 minutes ago, Andy North said:

Can't believe the criticism. I know he had a shocker against Newcastle but he's arguably our player of the season so far.

He's certainly doing much better than Gittens and Garnacho, but I think it is a bit of a stretch to say he's player of the season ...

1 hour ago, Andy North said:

Can't believe the criticism. I know he had a shocker against Newcastle but he's arguably our player of the season so far.

Why though? because he's finally popping up with the odd goal and runs a lot? His decision making is horrible. There were two moments I remember vividly against Newcastle that was typical Neto. He got the ball in the area, the Newcastle defender was unbalanced in a direction that would favour taking it around the defender on the outside to get a shot or cross away, but Neto cut inside into a crowded area and shot into that crowd.

Then there was the moment with Palmer that I have seen others talk about online where Neto is running straight through the middle at the Newcastle defence, Palmer is free on the right in his best position but Neto ignores him completely.

He also never gets his head up, he just puts his head down and runs. This is probably why he makes so many bad decisions, like the two I mentioned above. If he would actually look what is going on around him, he would spot these things easily.

If the season ends with Neto as our player of the season, it will have more do with us having a poor season than Neto being good. Same as when Willian won it in 2016.

Edited December 22, 2025Dec 22 by Scott Harris

No player should ever be above criticism and Neto is far from perfect.

However if I had to pick 10 players in our squad who had been very disappointing this season Neto wouldn't be in the top 15.

Love Pythagoras