24 minutes ago, Zeta said:

Sanchez will be off to City or PSG.

I can dream lol. Chelsea still need another winger let alone replacing Willian.

1 hour ago, Zeta said:

My idea would be to buy someone good who actually plays that position.

Well that would be ideal yes but that did not go so well in  the summer and it does not help us now so in case we mess up in January I was looking at other alternatives conte could try.

20 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Victor Moses was an average striker, poor often as a winger but boy he made a difference for us as a wing back. Hands up how many of us saw that coming?

 

Time to try see how willian does as a lwb I feel. His technique is better than Moses and he has as much if not more energy and pace. Got to be worth a go surely as we have no Alonso alternatives.

Conte has seen him on the training ground, and has clearly come to the conclusion he doesn't have the skillset to do it. The fact Pedro's played there a fair bit but Willian hasn't once says everything you need to know.

Edited December 10, 20178 yr by Argo

You have a fair point there. Guess he must see something in baka in training we are not seeing in the games though.

On 07/12/2017 at 10:23, yorkleyblue said:

He was on for 17 minutes -FFS get a grip on reality, he wasn't a " Big reason why we didn't win, very poor."

He was pants, I'll give you that, but let's be a little bit sensible, shall we?

He clearly was a big reason we didn't win. He missed a guilt edged opportunity which was even easier than Morata's, he missed a very simple pass to put Pedro clean through on goal and then also missed another opportunity to put Batman through on goal as well.

Others missed opportunities as well, but if Hazard/Pedro had been on the edge of those chances or moments that Willian had, we would have won the game. Period.

I'm a very optimistic supporter when it comes to defending our players but sometimes Willian gets a massive by because I think he's seen as a bit of a cult hero due to the Spurs transfer debacle. Has to go in the summer. Keep Pedro as a squad player and upgrade on Willian.

 

 

Edited December 11, 20178 yr by JMaher94

8 hours ago, JMaher94 said:

He clearly was a big reason we didn't win. ..........................some other stuff.......................

 

 

He clearly wasn't.  But don't let the facts get in the way of a good moan about the current scapegoat.  Game should have been well won before he even took his tracksuit off.

Been poor for a while now. I'm sure he'll score a cross in a couple of games though and people will be trying to say he's brilliant again. 

Motm tonight, involved in everything. 

Nah Hazard for me was clear MOTM 

Nice to have a player like Willian who could seamlessly fit in the starting 11, even he's not an automatic pick anymore. He's not going to get to the next level, but out of every 10 games he play, he'd give 7/10 in 7-8 of them, we need the consistency in a long season. I'd keep him in the next 12-18 months unless we get a definite upgrade over him, which won't come easy.

9 hours ago, coco said:

Motm tonight, involved in everything. 

Hazard was MOTM.

26 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Hazard was MOTM.

And Hazard gave it straight to Willian, because he knows something about football and how it's played.

6 minutes ago, yorkleyblue said:

And Hazard gave it straight to Willian, because he knows something about football and how it's played.

Hazard joking around like usual. He would have done it to whichever player was stood next to him. He also said we are back in contention with City for the league title after this win. The lad knows how to have fun. Or perhaps we are genuine title contenders now that someone who knows something about football has said it??

30 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Hazard joking around like usual. He would have done it to whichever player was stood next to him. He also said we are back in contention with City for the league title after this win. The lad knows how to have fun. Or perhaps we are genuine title contenders now that someone who knows something about football has said it??

Willian was my MOTM. He had a major part in the game last night. He's constantly getting stick on here, so when he plays well it's only right it's acknowledged. 

Willian might be one of those players that needs a run before they can deliver their best. 

His physical condition and technique is always good and he's always ready to play. The only issue was decision making, I think he's calmed down a bit and starting to do the right things with the ball, not trying to impress too much and playing his natural game.

I also like the last 2 post match interviews with him and Hazard, it looks like he's giving Willian a lot of moral support.

Some players are meant to be subs, and some are not. If we keep Willian on the bench and demand him to go in and deliver a game changer performance - he is not doing it. He needs time, rhythm and lot's of combination to get himself into the game. Once he's done this, he is close to world class player. But if Conte doesn't think to make him a starter again, then we better keep Pedro than him. The spanish is better substitute. 

17 minutes ago, Pendergast said:

Some players are meant to be subs, and some are not. If we keep Willian on the bench and demand him to go in and deliver a game changer performance - he is not doing it. He needs time, rhythm and lot's of combination to get himself into the game. Once he's done this, he is close to world class player. But if Conte doesn't think to make him a starter again, then we better keep Pedro than him. The spanish is better substitute. 

Close to world class 

I've given him a lot of stick but credit is where credit is due. Terrific against Huddersfield

If there is one player I believe can score these days it is him. He had for sure a bad start to the season but would now consider him as one of the most important. Hazard and William is like playing with 2 nr. 10.

17 hours ago, Pendergast said:

Some players are meant to be subs, and some are not. If we keep Willian on the bench and demand him to go in and deliver a game changer performance - he is not doing it. He needs time, rhythm and lot's of combination to get himself into the game. Once he's done this, he is close to world class player. But if Conte doesn't think to make him a starter again, then we better keep Pedro than him. The spanish is better substitute. 

PMSL.

Willian's best season as a Chelsea player was last year under Conte when he was nothing more than an impact sub. He would score most games he came on. He doesn't offer enough to be starting games but coming on against tired legs is perfect. 

One thing about William is he is one of the few players who can receive the ball under pressure and not lose it. His work-rate has dropped a lot recently but I still trust him to hold onto the ball similar to Hazard.

Hazard, Kante, Alonso, 

Then Moses and Morata too, you could argue.

The rest seem to be poor at this.

Pedro especially.

Edited December 23, 20178 yr by Sun zhi

Willian was absolutely awful today, when the play keeps breaking down through one player so often its so frustrating.

 no no he scored a cross against the Scouse and hates Tottenham. He's a world class Chelsea legend. Shh.