The end of 2014, I think it's possibly a good time to discuss the right side of our attack.

 

I really appreciate the job that Willian does but this has a detrimental effect to his attacking talents. Now I know he's never been a stats kind of player but everytime he gets on the ball in a dangerous area, I never expect him to put the ball in the back of the net or provide a stunning assist.

 

Schurrle is a different kind of player, he almost seems more like an inside forward looking to get in behind defences and finish. I just don't think he's been good enough when called upon and only looks most effective when he comes off the bench. Far too inconsistent, not as good at tracking as Willian with his defensive duties.

 

Don't get me wrong, we have been absolutely phenomenal this season and we deserve to be top of the table. I was just pointing out a possible slight weakness in this fantastic squad of players. Salah clearly won't be here after next summer so should there be a possibility of signing someone that can play on the right that will help us more.

 

What do you all think?

Im confused why do we have to pick? there both not good enough to hold down a starting place so rotate them on what games are best suited to there attributes.

If I had to pick one I'd go for Willian. He's good on the ball and tracks back like no other. He is always pretty consistant in his performances.

Schurrle just isn't good enough for me. Yes he probably provides a bigger goal threat than Willian but he is too inconsistant and just generally sloppy on the ball in my opinion. He loses it way too often.

At least with Willian you know what you're going to get, Schurrle is a bit of a gamble.

Both.

If I had to pick one I'd go for Willian. He's good on the ball and tracks back like no other. He is always pretty consistant in his performances.

Schurrle just isn't good enough for me. Yes he probably provides a bigger goal threat than Willian but he is too inconsistant and just generally sloppy on the ball in my opinion. He loses it way too often.

At least with Willian you know what you're going to get, Schurrle is a bit of a gamble.

 

Spot on this good post, I'm a big fan of Schurrle and was one on here that wanted us to buy him but he has struggled this season. Im even starting to think Mourinho has lost confidence in him.

Im confused why do we have to pick? there both not good enough to hold down a starting place so rotate them on what games are best suited to there attributes.

 

Hence why I put the part about buying someone else, also shows who people would rather get rid of.

Right now? Willian. He's not been outstanding since joining Chelsea and was certainly overpriced, but this season he's probably been marginally better than last as he's settled in. Schurrle on the other hand has just been a disappointment. I had hoped his WC heroics would propel him further, but instead he's struggled with inconsistency and illness. 

On their day Schurrle offers far more to the team but he's been off form since being ill.

If he doesn't improve then we can sell him for pretty much what we bought him for. God knows who would buy Willian. Been a massive disappointment to be honest and one of the least intuitive attacking midfielders I've ever seen.

Rotate them depending on form, fitness opponant.

I wonder how Remy would get on if he was asked to play wide.

Right now it's our biggest weak point, I would say unless we see an upturn in form from one or both that we will be in the market for a new winger either in January or the summer.

If the offer of Marco Reus for Schurrle and some cash in January I'd snap Dortmund's hand off.

In the system we play it's a no brainier, Willian

Willian suits our style better though he does need more end product. Schurrle has more end product but doesn't seem to fit into the way we play.

Out of interest, what was Willian's best game for us? What's the instinctive response? What game defines him as a player for us?

 

What's Schurrle's?

Really crazy how much debate there is between these 2. I'm in willian camp as we are top of the league and he's played the majority, so he must be doing something right.

I'm no particularly sold on either to be honest, I find schurrle utterly frustrating, he loses possession alot, I would be too disappointed if he left.

Willian flatters to deceive, but he is more consistent and links up better with the other players.

I think having marco rues at right wing would take us to a different level, however likely or unlikely that transfer is.

Willians biggest problem is his lack of goals, but as a team we score from everywhere, so I don't think it's a particular desperate need.

Out of interest, what was Willian's best game for us? What's the instinctive response? What game defines him as a player for us?

What's Schurrle's?

Schurrle Fulham away. Willian liverpool at home. The team seem to play better with Willian in it, were top of the league, so if it ain't broke...

Willian is good at keeping the ball and rarely gets it taken off him, unlike schurrle who also misplaces his pass a lot more, but i like schurrle as a player and he is far more dangerous in the final third on his day. When schurrle has a great game he is clinical, but when willian has a great game, he plays the same as always and offers virtually nothing in regards to assisting or scoring, but just a high work rate. However, neither of them are setting the world alight right now and it is getting frustrating. When I watch alexis at arsenal, he is so fecking dangerous around the box and sniffs around at any opportunity, and he knows where the goal is and can easily get on the score sheet at any given time.

Edited December 29, 201411 yr by enigma

Schurrle Fulham away. Willian liverpool at home. The team seem to play better with Willian in it, were top of the league, so if it ain't broke...

 

I thought he linked up well against Burnley, but Fulham is probably his most notable game because of the hat-trick. I actually liked him against Stoke and at home to Arsenal he was a key part of what was our most devastating team performance since Jose returned,

 

Willian is a trickier one. 

 

As for the 'if it ain't broke' thing, isn't it better to be proactive in looking to improve rather than being reactive? I agree that neither is perfect at the moment but I really think that Schurrle at his best gives us something more dangerous. Willian is a constant 6.5 player whereas Schurrle seems to oscillate between 4 to 8.

I thought he linked up well against Burnley, but Fulham is probably his most notable game because of the hat-trick. I actually liked him against Stoke and at home to Arsenal he was a key part of what was our most devastating team performance since Jose returned,

Willian is a trickier one.

As for the 'if it ain't broke' thing, isn't it better to be proactive in looking to improve rather than being reactive? I agree that neither is perfect at the moment but I really think that Schurrle at his best gives us something more dangerous. Willian is a constant 6.5 player whereas Schurrle seems to oscillate between 4 to 8.

I agree ots important to be pro active, but schurrle needs to earn his place back, he's been closer to 4 than 8 this season.

Willian hasnt done anything particularly worthy of getting dropped, nothing as bad as schurrles defensive error against city.

When schurrle has had a chance like today, he hasn't took it.

I agree ots important to be pro active, but schurrle needs to earn his place back, he's been closer to 4 than 8 this season.

Willian hasnt done anything particularly worthy of getting dropped, nothing as bad as schurrles defensive error against city.

When schurrle has had a chance like today, he hasn't took it.

 

That's the disheartening thing. I was screaming for him to be replaced against Arsenal because he was dire but I really think he hasn't had a chance to build any rhythm. When he's on the pitch he seems to be trying too hard to impress, but maybe that's too big a hurdle to surmount.

 

Willian is average, consistent and you know pretty much what you'll get with him. He won't lose you matches but he's unlikely to win you them whereas Schurrle has that ability to get key goals.

That's the disheartening thing. I was screaming for him to be replaced against Arsenal because he was dire but I really think he hasn't had a chance to build any rhythm. When he's on the pitch he seems to be trying too hard to impress, but maybe that's too big a hurdle to surmount.

Willian is average, consistent and you know pretty much what you'll get with him. He won't lose you matches but he's unlikely to win you them whereas Schurrle has that ability to get key goals.

I agree schurrle has it in his locker to score important goals, but until we either start losing games, willian has a number of stinkers, or schurrle plays a blinder, he won't displace willian in our starting 11.

As long as we're playing well, then I see no reason to change what has so far been a successful formula, especially to play schurrle who hasnt exactly lit the place up since he moved here.

Edited December 29, 201411 yr by big blue

Willian has the ability in his locker to do so much more for this team, attacking-wise anyway. Currently, it seems he's happy to be on the side and let Hazard and co. do the business. He's got the technique, pace, dribbling, tenacity, but I feel he's just lacking that extra spark (perhaps improving final ball) to make him an important component of this team. 

 

Both Willian and Schurlle have been poor to some degree this season in the sense that they haven't really met fan expectations, despite Willian perhaps meeting the standard, I think Schurrle is falling short. 

 

I also think if we were to view Willian as a Malouda-type player, then it should show that he has room for growth with regards to goal/assist production. Malouda was brilliant in our title winning season, but preceding seasons before Hiddink had come in, he was dire. Something drove him to step it up with Carlo and which led to him being regarded as the best left-winger in the league. I think Willian can do the same. Can he become better than a player like Reus? Probably not, but once he finds that spark to fuel him, he'll go from a good player to a superb one.  

 

As for Schurrle, it's a completely different case with him. I'm not even sure what to think of him, I just hope he gets his head right. 

I will go for the boring answer and say whoever Jose feels best suited to the task at hand.

 

Far as games against sides more likely to part the bus, would like to see Remy given a chance on the right of the 3 there. Has played wider positions before and we know he has an eye for goal. Makes us less defensively sound but could make the difference in breaking down the more stubborn defenses. 

As a team we played significantly better when Willian came on today, in a game like this where there is very little room for our forwards he is head and shoulders above Schurrle in his ability to keep possession, turn on the ball and get us moving forward.

 

Schurrle's best use is when the other team is pushing forward and leaving room in behind, however that has rarely been the case this season because Fabregas and Matic are just keeping the ball too well.

I'm also in the camp that we need someone else to take us to the very next level. Our weakest position hands down.