Sorry to burst your bubble he already is good, just not for us, hence our scouts picked him because they can see a players talents better than you or me, he is world cup proven, and plays well for other clubs, diesel doesn't work in a petrol car that doesn't make it a bad fuel 

 

I'll grant you, that is a good analogy.

 

But Cuadrado is still f**king useless!!

Juve are starting him in a CL game, the same team that put out RM on their way to the finals last season, the same team that just beat city at home, who may I add recently thumped us 3-0, it's all relative.

It's not the same Juventus team though is it, they've lost Pirlo, Vidal and Tevez. If those three were still there I doubt that he'd be getting a sniff.

Last night they were up against a City side that is notoriously nervy and poor in Europe, despite their domestic success, that trend continued last night and I don't think our game against them has anything to do with it.

If only we hadn't sent Torres and Marin out on loan and given them more of a chance. We'd probably be top of the league.

Haha look at the bitter fools in this thread. Cuadrado put in a better performance yesterday than Willian has in his entire Chelsea career. Quality player, unfortunately it didn't work out for us. Mata, De Bruyne, Salah, Schurrle also "failed" under Jose, no big shame.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mt_t8yUspQ

 

Rabonas, tackles, shots, crosses, even winning free-kicks late on which was Hazard/Drogba esque. Quality, quality performance. Most Juve fans have him down as their best player after Buffon but yeah he was "pony".

Edited September 16, 201510 yr by Gilvorak

Haha look at the bitter fools in this thread. Cuadrado put in a better performance yesterday than Willian has in his entire Chelsea career. Quality player, unfortunately it didn't work out for us. Mata, De Bruyne, Salah, Schurrle also "failed" under Jose, no big shame.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mt_t8yUspQ

 

Rabonas, tackles, shots, crosses, even winning free-kicks late on which was Hazard/Drogba esque. Quality, quality performance. Most Juve fans have him down as their best player after Buffon but yeah he was "pony".

 

Fact of the matter is, every time he played for us, he was rubbish. Name one good thing he did in a Chelsea shirt. Some players just don't suit some clubs.

He could barely even control the ball when he played for us, I don't see how that is Jose's fault. Literally probably the 2nd worst player i've seen for us in the Roman era after Benayoun.

And it's not being bitter, if you look back through the thread before he was loaned out you'll see the same sentiments from me and nearly everyone else.

Edited September 16, 201510 yr by Jonty

I think he suits Italian football, that's about the best thing I can say about him.

Haha look at the bitter fools in this thread. Cuadrado put in a better performance yesterday than Willian has in his entire Chelsea career. Quality player, unfortunately it didn't work out for us. Mata, De Bruyne, Salah, Schurrle also "failed" under Jose, no big shame.

 

 

How am I bitter? 

 

For pointing out that he was absolute jank every time he played for Chelsea? 

 

I honestly couldn't give two sh*ts what he does in a Juventus shirt, doesn't change the fact that he is one of the worst players I have ever seen play for Chelsea. 

 

The fact that Mourinho/the board were happy to get rid of him after only 15 appearances speaks volumes about what they thought of him. 

 

Really don't understand why people are being so defensive about a player that clearly wasn't good enough. 

I give every foreign player who comes to the Premier league one year to adapt to the unique characteristics of English football, therefore I will not criticise him. Limited opportunities in a Chelsea side that was physically declining in the second half of the season. Good luck to him at Juventus, hopefully a good season there and we can recoup a large percentage of the transfer fee next summer.

Haha look at the bitter fools in this thread. Cuadrado put in a better performance yesterday than Willian has in his entire Chelsea career.

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Well that's just an outright lie.

If you thought that was a performance to rave about from Cuadrado last night then your knowledge on football could be scribbled on the back of a beer mat.

What do his Chelsea performances have to do with how he perfomed last night in any shape or form? He put in a quality perfomance, better than any player has for this season yet some of you are downplaying it because of insecurity and bitterness.

 

I'm just glad he was great against the supposedly unstoppable City side because the "he's playing in a sh*t League" card would've been brought up in no time. He came into a Chelsea team who's entire midfield/attack apart from Hazard was in appallingly poor form & played with doubt, fear nervousness with a huge pricetag on his head. You're not very bright if you confuse his poor performances at Chelsea with his normal level. He's proven at the World Cup, Serie A & yesterday in the Champions League he's a very good winger when confident.

 

Apart from Hazard who's a once in a generation type of talent (who would be far better in Arsenal, PSG, Bayern, Madrid or Barca's system for my money, his goal tally has not improved much) how many attacking players that aren't strikers have actually improved under Jose in his second spell? Mata, Salah, Schurrle, De Bruyne all failed. Willian's end product for us is laughable which is why he's lost his place & Oscar while great, his consistency, quality & contribution is constantly question by a large portion of our fanbase. Perhaps it's not the players, it's the manager & his system.

Edited September 16, 201510 yr by Gilvorak

If that was a quality performance, my god the standards are low. I guess it was though since he managed not to fall over every time he tried a dribble. Well done

Bottom line is he was one of the worst players we have ever had at our club.

He couldn't dribble, he couldn't pass, he couldn't shoot and he couldn't handle playing for us.

He's just not a very good footballer no matter how you try to spin it.

How was that a good performance? He lost the ball nearly every time he had it.

Haha look at the bitter fools in this thread. Cuadrado put in a better performance yesterday than Willian has in his entire Chelsea career.

No he didn't.

He came into a Chelsea team who's entire midfield/attack apart from Hazard was in appallingly poor form & played with doubt, fear nervousness with a huge pricetag on his head.

 

Right, a team that only lost 1 of the 15 games it played while Cuadrado was at the club. Why do you excuse Cuadrado for playing like absolute sh*te then say that everyone else was sh*te when clearly that wasn't the case?

 

That is called grasping at straws.

If that was a quality performance, my god the standards are low. I guess it was though since he managed not to fall over every time he tried a dribble. Well done

Fall over? He gave the ball away just twice in that video. I see him going past Fernandinho, Kolarov & De Bruyne with relative ease but yeah "well done" indeed.

How was that a good performance? He lost the ball nearly every time he had it.

He was disposssed just twice according to Whoscored & Squawka. How on earth did he lose it every time he got it? Hazard, Messi give the ball away too believe it or not. It happens.

 

Right, a team that only lost 1 of the 15 games it played while Cuadrado was at the club. Why do you excuse Cuadrado for playing like absolute sh*te then say that everyone else was sh*te when clearly that wasn't the case?

 

That is called grasping at straws.

Lost? We were w**k which is why a PSG team completely outplayed us with 10 men. It was a one-man show throuhout the 2nd half. You think our bad form this season hasn't been on the cards for months now? We literally have not played well since Swansea away in January.

 

Bottom line is he was one of the worst players we have ever had at our club.

He couldn't dribble, he couldn't pass, he couldn't shoot and he couldn't handle playing for us.

He's just not a very good footballer no matter how you try to spin it.

Very dumb post. "Not very good footballers" aren't courted by Juventus, a team easily better than us.

Good footballers don't trip up over their own feet and fail to beat defenders every single time they face up to them.

Cuadrado was an expensive dud who isn't very good at all, that's the reality and nothing you say is going to convince anything otherwise.

Very dumb post. "Not very good footballers" aren't courted by Juventus, a team easily better than us.

 

Manchester United under SAF signed Djemba-Djemba, Bebe, Massimo Taibi, Kleberson

 

Good clubs sign bad players. 

I’d also question that remark “Juventus a team easily better than us”.

We both won our respective leagues with ease last season

They went a round further in the CL

Both sides have had a poor start to the season

They have lost arguably their 3 best players from the past few years in Pirlo, Vidal and Tevez.

I’d not say Juve are ‘easily’ better than us at all…that’s a strange conclusion to make in my eyes.

I’d also question that remark “Juventus a team easily better than us”.

We both won our respective leagues with ease last season

They went a round further in the CL

Both sides have had a poor start to the season

They have lost arguably their 3 best players from the past few years in Pirlo, Vidal and Tevez.

I’d not say Juve are ‘easily’ better than us at all…that’s a strange conclusion to make in my eyes.

They don't have a better squad, but they do have better balance and play better football, they keep it very simple and do everything correctly, it's a joy to watch, I personally love italian football and think their style of play would suit us far better than this tica taca round the box bollox we do now, we just look like a lethargic Arsenal when we do that, Chelsea is about defence, power in the middle, a target man, and that's essentially what juve do and why a box to box CM like Pogba is key for us 

If you think Chelsea play "tica-taca" you probably don't understand football. I mean your comment smacks of the prevailing attitude on these forums "everyone likes attacking football so I'll be special and different and say I want defensive football".

Interesting points Gilvorak but while I agree Mourinho's system limits attackers to an extent, Cuadrado's skill level would never make him effective in the Premier League at a top club. Cuadrado is essentially a knock and run kind of player who needs passes played into space, not into feet with his back to goal. That works fine when you're Juve sitting back against an overcommitting, tactically naive City side but it won't be any use in 38 games of 10-men defenses.

Defensive football was in my time, today's game is so different. Last season we were recognised as the only team with worthwhile defence.

Bobby Moore! Untimely passing, wonder what he'd have made of the game today.

Defensive football has its place. Every great team needs to strike a balance.

Spending half a billion pounds to lump a ball to a target man is not only ludicrously wasteful but also ineffective.

There needs to be a synergy between attack and defense. The best teams always find a way to link the two, but we haven't.

And Cuadrado certainly is not that link.