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Everton v Chelsea (PL) 12/09/2015 KO 12:45 BST

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I haven't watched the game as went out. What is going on? What is the score? Haven't got much battery on phone.

Edited by enigma

we are an absolute shambles and I can't see an end to this dismal form any time soon, Europa League here we come, that is if we can finish inside the top 6, who knows to be honest. I do know that I enjoyed the international break and I only wish there was one again next week, to save me from having to watch this absolute trash. As for Jose, I have a lot of respect for him, but maybe it's time to move on.

Our Premier League title defence is over now

 

Wtf is going on? How have we gone from easily the best defence in the league to among the worst in a few months?

 

Ivanovic has been terrible all season, we're constantly losing the ball down the middle giving sides a clear run at our and we endlessly do short passes in and around the box, never looking like we're going to create a decent chance.

f**k this formation. f**k this tactics. We need Ancelotti's formation and tactics. Mourinho is losing it. He had been known and he won't change his way of playing. Bring back Ancelotti.

You are supposed to support the manager win and lose.

Fergie didn't get sacked every time things got difficult. He went back to the drawing board and built new teams.

Fans today are so spoilt!

Maybe last season took more out f these players than we realised. We looked leggy from November onwards, and by Jan we looked dead. That's 5 months of running on empty, I don't know what that does to a player or if even preseason is enough to physically and mentally recover.

Yes I believe it's tiredness, they look like they don't give a f**k but it could just be the fact that we went a whole season with little to no rotation.

Which is why players who weren't considered undroppable looked better in the early games like Oscar and Ramires, and others like RLC and Kenedy

The problem is our attacking players are completely out of form. Hazard, Cesc, Costa all terrible. It says something when an unknown 19 year old kid is outperforming them.

 

Actually Kenedy was pretty sh!te today.

We've played well enough in parts. We have the talent, but the glue is missing - at the moment.

 The talent is there alright, but the players have lost their bottle and have gone into hiding. We would never have seen this with Mourinho's last team. This Chelsea side is the most mentally weak side in the Abramovic era i think.

And Kalas? who looked fine against Liverpool last season or so?

 

Still have no idea why we loaned Moses. One of the only guys who seemed like he gave a damn. At current form he's better than Hazard...

You are supposed to support the manager win and lose.

Fergie didn't get sacked every time things got difficult. He went back to the drawing board and built new teams.

Fans today are so spoilt!

Exactly that.

Still have no idea why we loaned Moses. One of the only guys who seemed like he gave a damn. At current form he's better than Hazard...

Same reason why Ivan constantly starts. He was not rated or wanted by Jose. Ivan on the other hand....

Well Players are playing as per managers instructions and if Manager dont like it he ruthlessly changes it.

It's pretty obvious it's a player issue. The Eva thing got in their heads.

This must be how Man Utd fans felt

Not at all. You have still got a world class manager and players.

We had Moyes and an ageing squad plus an awful midfield.

At least wait until around Xmas until you write off your title hopes. Things in football change VERY quickly.

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