So there are rumors in the major papers today that we have started enquirers on his availability for next season in case Jose doesn't turn things around. How would you feel about his appointment?

Jesus..... Not another one. 

 

I feel that your decision to start this thread in the GENERAL CHELSEA section is stupid. Absolutely stupid.

don't think i need to say much more than i have already regarding him, but i am a big advocate of guardiola, and i really like his training style/methods. i wanted him here after di matteo left, but it didn't happen and then the talk of jose coming back got me excited so was in two minds.

 

i think jose needs another month to sort things out and if he doesn't then we have no choice than to replace him with an interim until summer. with the way we're going we will be lucky to get a europa spot, let alone a 4th place spot.

 

i wouldn't be so bothered if the result of not getting 4th place meant it wouldn't affect us financially, our global appeal or general appeal to top players coming here, but somehow i might tarnish our reputation just a little bit. 

 

the pros of pep coming here would be: 

 

- young manager

- fresh ideas

- new playing style

- integrating youth a lot more

- no more negative drama surrounding the club

- competing in europe once again, and by that i mean actually focusing on winning the thing. 

 

the cons for me are only one, and that is:

 

-  never managed in england before

 

however, that con is negated by him having a full pre-season with the squad and implementing his ideals in time for the EPL season 2016/2017. 

Edited October 26, 201510 yr by enigma

Is it inappropriate for me to post this again?

 

ctually, thinking about it if we hired him it would be in time for the stadium change, so that bigger pitch would come in handy for that sexy posession based football. 

I think perhaps Abramovich should hire him, just so that he can sack him a couple of months later when it will all go pear shaped.

Then we can get rid of these threads and move on.

 

 

Is it inappropriate for me to post this again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9m7m8_2t4Y

Lol

Edited October 26, 201510 yr by Bigthrobberus

ctually, thinking about it if we hired him it would be in time for the stadium change, so that bigger pitch would come in handy for that sexy posession based football. 

Is it just me that dislikes his style of play? Can't stand the death-by-passing he uses. bores the defenders into making mistakes, and bores the hell out of me full stop. Bayern are far less watchable now than before he came when Heynckes had a direct attacking style

I don't think Pep is this amazing manager people make him out to be, however, it would be interesting to see if he can prove me wrong. Chelsea would be without a doubt his biggest test to date.

Don't think Guardiola would suit the PL particulary well. He hasn't been convincing against english opposition at Bayern and i think he would struggle. And he would also need a ridiculous amount of new players that suits his system.

People talking about they about they don't want guardiola as if we're some super elite club who can pick and choose any elite manager we want. Newsflash: we're not. Apart from the fact that there's a lack of quality managers out there we'd be getting a manager who's won pretty much everything there's to be won and still very very young.

Like Jose ?

I think people need to look up guardiola's tactics used in games. Of course he isn't infallible, but he's a brilliant young manager that is underrated severely on here. He done bloody well to reach the stages he did in the CL last season with the amount of injuries bayern had suffered. I think him wanting to come to the PL (if true of course) proves he's ambitious too. He could easily stay at bayern and win many trophies. I, for one, would give him massive credit if he was to come to this club when there's the safety of arsenal or cushy set up at city, or even utd with their financial power, to choose from instead.

Why would Pep even want the Chelsea job?

We're a complete mess right now, looking increasingly unlikely to not to have European football next season.

Why would he give up the stability of managing Barca and Bayern to take on this mess?

He took an incredible, exciting attacking Munich team and turned them into a boring, percentage passing tedious side. He ruined Munich.

I don't see the fuss with him.

He was given two ridiculously talented sides on a platter, as dkw pointed Pep out in his latest stint at Bayern made them far less effective than they were the season before he joined.

I also don't see him giving up his comfy job to come to a club in crisis either.

I don't see the fuss with him.

He was given two ridiculously talented sides on a platter, as dkw pointed Pep out in his latest stint at Bayern made them far less effective than they were the season before he joined.

I also don't see him giving up his comfy job to come to a club in crisis either.

I don't see the fuss with him.

He was given two ridiculously talented sides on a platter, as dkw pointed Pep out in his latest stint at Bayern made them far less effective than they were the season before he joined.

I also don't see him giving up his comfy job to come to a club in crisis either.

Bayern, I will give you and he hasn't been successful there.

He made that Barca team into what it was, don't take that away from him. He incorporated Messi into the side, getting rid of Zlatan and Henry in the process and playing David Villa out wide. That Barca side as much as I despise them from 09-12 was possibly the best team of all time. Lost it when Puyol retired.

Only the mighty Chels gave them a problem!

Ok so we want rid of Mourinho cause he treated his medical team poorly in public, but so too has Guardiola. Media didn't run a story for two months but I can see the video clips are apparently still quite memorable for some on this forum aside from me ( most respected doctor in the sport too, mind you)

Ok, so we want a style of play that the fans like because many don't like Mourinho's.... yet I hear many who openly claim that Guardiola's style is equally boring (sans Messi) and I agree, watching your CB's pass the ball in their own half for 40 minutes every game might be great possession but it's very dull.

Ok, we need a long term manager because Mourinho is a 3 year man.... well check Pep, he's actually pasted 4 years as his longest reign, that's our man for the longterm clealry.

Ok, so now the dressing room. Clearly Pep would do better than Mourinho, regardless of all the super star ex players who said they despised working with Pep and felt he was not only arrogant and rude, but as one so famously said, a coward too.

Of course Pep is a super nice guy at press conferences.... well until he starts to feel pressure but don't worry, aside from Mourinho every other manager is treated with massive respect by the media lol.

Oh but Guardiola will do wonders in the transfer market, he never buys huge money players who don't perform under him LOL.

Oh, and he always takes a team of under achievers and takes them to the next level. I mean look at Bayern, they had only won the Quadruple before Pep arrived.

In all seriousness, if Pep comes here its for 2 reasons. 1. Bayern doesn't want him any more and 2. He just wants to do o e on is arch rival Mourinho, the man who pressured him out of La Liga. Everything Pep has said he wants, when he went to Bayern, this club is not. He will not be at a stable club, he will not have complete control over the football issues and his play style will come second to results..... and this will be by far his toughest gig yet and I don't see him succeeding. It will be the toughest league he has worked in with the worst squad he'll have ever managed.

I disagree with that Rijkaard incorporated Messi for one. What Guardiola did do was take that team and turn it into a team that dominated like the AC Milan team of the early 90s though. The players he had were a perfect mix, Messi wasn't and isn't that good simply on his own either he had Iniesta and Xavi behind him.

In a similar situation though I would say Jose landed on his feet here when he came into a side with players like Frank Lampard and John Terry in. We even know it was Ranieri who had already gotten Cech and Robben in so he also inherited them.

I do think though comparing the two that Guardiola wouldn't have been able to take the Porto and Inter sides and did what Jose did. Yes there were exceptional players in those teams but I think it took abit more to get them to win all those trophies they did.

What actually bugs me about Pep is he said after he left Barca that he wanted to build a side as that would be the real challenge. Instead he went to Bayern where it was all there for him. He took over the best team in Europe.

Edited October 26, 201510 yr by Bobbywoodhogan

Ok so we want rid of Mourinho cause he treated his medical team poorly in public, but so too has Guardiola. Media didn't run a story for two months but I can see the video clips are apparently still quite memorable for some on this forum aside from me ( most respected doctor in the sport too, mind you)

Ok, so we want a style of play that the fans like because many don't like Mourinho's.... yet I hear many who openly claim that Guardiola's style is equally boring (sans Messi) and I agree, watching your CB's pass the ball in their own half for 40 minutes every game might be great possession but it's very dull.

Ok, we need a long term manager because Mourinho is a 3 year man.... well check Pep, he's actually pasted 4 years as his longest reign, that's our man for the longterm clealry.

Ok, so now the dressing room. Clearly Pep would do better than Mourinho, regardless of all the super star ex players who said they despised working with Pep and felt he was not only arrogant and rude, but as one so famously said, a coward too.

Of course Pep is a super nice guy at press conferences.... well until he starts to feel pressure but don't worry, aside from Mourinho every other manager is treated with massive respect by the media lol.

Oh but Guardiola will do wonders in the transfer market, he never buys huge money players who don't perform under him LOL.

Oh, and he always takes a team of under achievers and takes them to the next level. I mean look at Bayern, they had only won the Quadruple before Pep arrived.

In all seriousness, if Pep comes here its for 2 reasons. 1. Bayern doesn't want him any more and 2. He just wants to do o e on is arch rival Mourinho, the man who pressured him out of La Liga. Everything Pep has said he wants, when he went to Bayern, this club is not. He will not be at a stable club, he will not have complete control over the football issues and his play style will come second to results..... and this will be by far his toughest gig yet and I don't see him succeeding. It will be the toughest league he has worked in with the worst squad he'll have ever managed.

Agree he is a bit of a rock-star appointment. lots of glitz and glamour and ultimately not much of a legacy. 

 

some might say "he's all fart and no sh1te". 

 

trouble is, i think the days of any manager being afforded the opportunity to build something for a sustained period of time are gone. i cant see there ever being any manager coming in to chelsea and staying for 10 - 15 years. not with our current owner and board anyway if we look at recent history. 

 

im not sure about the guardiola fascination either to be honest. there are some good managers out there, just seems that the usual names get thrown around whenever there is a possible vacancy on the horizon. the likes of lopetegui, emery and conte tend to be overlooked when the reality is they could build something special if given the funds, structure, facilities etc. 

 

disappointingly predictable. 

 

meh guardiola. 

Bayern, I will give you and he hasn't been successful there.

He made that Barca team into what it was, don't take that away from him. He incorporated Messi into the side, getting rid of Zlatan and Henry in the process and playing David Villa out wide. That Barca side as much as I despise them from 09-12 was possibly the best team of all time. Lost it when Puyol retired.

Only the mighty Chels gave them a problem!

yes Pep got rid of Zlatan.... just a season after Pep has splashed about 70 million on him and used him ineffectively.

And when did this Pep discovered Messi myth begin? I was playing with Messi on FIFA with Argentina before Pep ever managed him (ya Riquelme and Crespo!).

Messi started making senior appearances in 2004. Pep started managing the senior team in 2008. Ronaldinho claimed Messi would be even better than him many years before Pep managed Barca's senior side.

I think people need to look up guardiola's tactics used in games. Of course he isn't infallible, but he's a brilliant young manager that is underrated severely on here. He done bloody well to reach the stages he did in the CL last season with the amount of injuries bayern had suffered. I think him wanting to come to the PL (if true of course) proves he's ambitious too. He could easily stay at bayern and win many trophies. I, for one, would give him massive credit if he was to come to this club when there's the safety of arsenal or cushy set up at city, or even utd with their financial power, to choose from instead.

I'm guessing they don't like him because mourinho doesn't like him. Lmao.

I think people need to look up guardiola's tactics used in games. Of course he isn't infallible, but he's a brilliant young manager that is underrated severely on here. He done bloody well to reach the stages he did in the CL last season with the amount of injuries bayern had suffered. I think him wanting to come to the PL (if true of course) proves he's ambitious too. He could easily stay at bayern and win many trophies. I, for one, would give him massive credit if he was to come to this club when there's the safety of arsenal or cushy set up at city, or even utd with their financial power, to choose from instead.

Im not sure where you come from and I could be wrong but do you come from Barcelona by any chance?