2 minutes ago, Famous CFC said:

Just pulling your leg. I bet the the guy who tweeted that feels a little silly right now. 

I'm not the only one who thought Bakayoko played well that match, just look at these quotes from that match day thread:

On 11/5/2017 at 20:32, goose said:

Bakayoko was a monster in our midfield and caused them loads of problems with his forward runs. It’s a pity about his finishing, don’t think he’ll be a Lampard but he can improve.

 

On 11/5/2017 at 18:54, Brutos said:

On 11/5/2017 at 18:33, enigma said:

bakayoko was tremendous as well today. apart from his shooting and decision making in the final third at times, he was fantastic. the whole midfield was brilliant. 

He ran rings around Matic

 

On 11/5/2017 at 18:33, enigma said:

bakayoko was tremendous as well today. apart from his shooting and decision making in the final third at times, he was fantastic. the whole midfield was brilliant. 

 

On 11/5/2017 at 18:37, Leonon said:

Baka - Showed what he's capable of, power house performance bossed Matic and Herrara and got forward brilliantly, should be man of the match but man, take shooting classes :s

 

On 11/5/2017 at 18:23, The Don Antonio said:

Honestly BAKA was better than Matic and that even after an early yellow and wasting numerous chances

 

12 minutes ago, TomCFC85 said:

 

We must remember it differently then because if memory serves me right, he had a pretty decent game. 

Bakayoko was lauded for his performance in that game.  I think he missed an opportunity on goal early, but he won the ball back for us pretty frequently.  Bakayoko is a destroyer...that's all he is at this stage.  I actually think he's pretty good at sticking his foot in and winning the ball back for us.  Every once in a while he can even carry the ball forward.  

But we ask of him to take the ball from defense and transition to offense.  He is not technical enough for this. He is dispossessed so easily and his passes are not accurate enough.  As soon as he wins the ball he needs to get rid...

4 minutes ago, TomCFC85 said:

I'm not the only one who thought Bakayoko played well that match, just look at these quotes from that match day thread:

 

 

 

 

 

My memory of him from that game was his miscues in front of goal. Decent game? Yeah I'll give you that. Brilliant, class or great- NO!!

Edited March 5, 20188 yr by Famous CFC

Just now, Famous CFC said:

My memory of him from that game was his miscues in front of goal. 

I understand that gripe, a player must take his chances.
But at the end of the day, he's a defensive midfielder and his main role of dominating the midfield was fulfilled that match.

12 hours ago, fiel said:

When you sit and really think about it, no top club of the past 15 years has consistently had as much drama as our club. We can at least take solace in that terrible fact.

Yes it's great isn't it, Chelsea will always steal the headlines, that's why we have always pissed other teams off, headlines aren't always positive but we as a club, either get on the back page or sometimes the front, mid 70's we were headlines because of the financial crises at club, late 70's and 80's it was the hooligans, 90's it was all the foreign imports coming in ( first club to field a total non British team) 2000's Roman and all the money, lots of other dramas in the club, but it keeps us on our toes, carefree

10 minutes ago, TomCFC85 said:

I'm not the only one who thought Bakayoko played well that match, just look at these quotes from that match day thread:

 

 

 

 

 

Funny how Baka and Morata have been sh*t since that day, but i stand by comments that day he was immense

6 minutes ago, TomCFC85 said:

I understand that gripe, a player must take his chances.
But at the end of the day, he's a defensive midfielder and his main role of dominating the midfield was fulfilled that match.

I wouldn't say he dominated the midfield. He probably broke up a few plays, and because he was a new signing, people probably overpraised him. 

12 hours ago, Stim said:

Yeah sometimes I wish I supported Portsmouth instead.

Well they play in blue, but it would be totally boring supporting Pompey, through the years Chelsea have always kept us interested, absolutely box office we are and always will be. 

I am sure Bakayoko, Zappacosta, Alonso, Emerson, Morata were all Conte signings. Drove out Diego Costa, bald loser.

Conte is just terrible in everything except moaning. Please f**k off back to Italy

2 hours ago, ZAYN-CFC said:

I am sure Bakayoko, Zappacosta, Alonso, Emerson, Morata were all Conte signings. Drove out Diego Costa, bald loser.

Conte is just terrible in everything except moaning. Please f**k off back to Italy

I guess that's why we immediatley matched United's bid for Lukaku, bought Alonso and Zappacosta on deadline day and put in multiple bids for Alex Sandro before settling on Emerson then?
And don't give me that excuse about Costa.
Diego at times had a dreadful way of going about things, disappeared under Jose's second season, didn't get his wish to move back to China in the middle of a title chase and constantly talked about going back to Madrid. 

 

While it is hard to see much of a future for Conte at the bridge, it is equally wrong to blame for everything that is wrong right now. At best, even if the next manager repeats Conte's successful first season, there is a very good chance we will be back in the same predicament in a couple of years. 

3 hours ago, Famous CFC said:

Exactly what I thought. Bakayoko was in that game as he has been all season, extremely average. 

I'm not sure why people keep bringing up the United game. 

I was impressed with his dribbling, but he didn't have a better game than Kante or Fabregas, and he kept constantly losing the ball in good areas and killing off good chances. And this isn't me just being negative Bakayoko, I can recall two Bakayoko games where he was good but the United match definitely wasn't one of them. 

3 hours ago, TomCFC85 said:

I understand that gripe, a player must take his chances.
But at the end of the day, he's a defensive midfielder and his main role of dominating the midfield was fulfilled that match.

His defensive side of that game was average, that game we were very very good, Mikhi was anonymous and Kante was breaking up play consistently. Jose set up too defensively and their midfield was overrun, Matic & Herrera were awful. Fabregas and Kante were superb and Bakayoko had a lot of freedom to go forward, don't get me wrong he did whiz past Matic a few times but he didn't have him in his pocket. I did like his bursting runs forward but that game he reminded me of Ramires, Ramires could burst forward then he would do a sh*tty pass at the end or badly miss the goal. 

3 hours ago, TomCFC85 said:

I'm not the only one who thought Bakayoko played well that match, just look at these quotes from that match day thread:

 

 

 

 

 

That doesn't mean much, I was on rival forums after that match and from ArsenalMania to RAWK they were saying Bakayoko is sh*te. Obviously, we are more bias and at the time we had high hopes for Bakayoko so we were loving the idea of Bakayoko dominating Matic, in reality, it's quite different. 

55 minutes ago, Slojo said:

I'm not sure why people keep bringing up the United game. 

I was impressed with his dribbling, but he didn't have a better game than Kante or Fabregas, and he kept constantly losing the ball in good areas and killing off good chances. And this isn't me just being negative Bakayoko, I can recall two Bakayoko games where he was good but the United match definitely wasn't one of them. 

Like I said earlier, my lasting memory of him in that game was his poor finishing/shooting. In all honesty, he looks awkward at the best of times. Ball control, mental awareness and anticipation are not his strong points. Clearly shooting or passing isn't either. That game was frustrating because you knew if the ball came to him in a shooting situation, he'd either mish*t it, or Owen Farrell it over the posts. You can think of players in the team who've had great games, with him nothing honestly stands out, well apart from his mistakes and his constant knack of giving away fouls(Stupid fouls.) 

Edited March 6, 20188 yr by Famous CFC

10 hours ago, Ernie_blue said:

0-0 at half-time while the supporters of Chelsea are going mad in the stands and shouting sarcastic cheers when Chelsea eventually do something. Yeah all about the players why Chelsea have been a disaster since Christmas, there's no excuses for all the things Conte has done wrong this year and there has been plenty.

It never crossed Conte's mind to go more attacking even after City scored, teams at the bottom of the league had more shots on target. Like i said City played Thursday, travelled back that night, Conte has a whole week and delivers that sh*t. City never went up the extra gear as they never needed too.

It's all about the players though and Conte has done nothing wrong, if only Fab can be a better passer we would have won .

It's a wonder he hasn't been fired for all the bad choices and apparently being incompetent. Everyone in the squad will admit they've all been playing great but the tactics are poor. So when players say they haven't executed the gameplan they must be wrong

That’s what infuriated me most, we never tried to attack until it was too late. Why didn’t he get players on earlier? He’s made that same mistake in far too many games. He’s gotta go.

I blame Emenalo ☹

2 hours ago, Bobbywoodhogan said:

That’s what infuriated me most, we never tried to attack until it was too late. Why didn’t he get players on earlier? He’s made that same mistake in far too many games. He’s gotta go.

I think the reson he preferred damage control is he knows his limitations. But for a few times against lower class opposition and maybe a couple of times against similar level opposition as us, he finds it really difficult to rescue points with tactical intervention.

He can set up a team going into a game but unlike other managers that can rescue points from losing positions more likely than not we don't.

And to be fair to him it was the same "sh*t" style deployed in some big games he has been hailed as a tactical genius for. Spurs semi final for fa cup at Wembley comes to mind. Hold out for almost 65 mins then throw on everyone at same time. Only problem is here we were already behind and he doesn't believe in himself to turn it around.

9 hours ago, TheChelseaBlues said:

It's a wonder he hasn't been fired for all the bad choices and apparently being incompetent. Everyone in the squad will admit they've all been playing great but the tactics are poor. So when players say they haven't executed the gameplan they must be wrong

If Fabs passing was better and Moses somehow got his chance in we would have won, it was a great performance .

3 hours ago, Bobbywoodhogan said:

That’s what infuriated me most, we never tried to attack until it was too late. Why didn’t he get players on earlier? He’s made that same mistake in far too many games. He’s gotta go.

It was the same with subs last season, the games we was struggling in he would wait till the 80min to make a sub, if he was feeling sorry for Batman he might give him a 10min treat but normally it was 30 seconds.

1 hour ago, abister1 said:

I think the reson he preferred damage control is he knows his limitations. But for a few times against lower class opposition and maybe a couple of times against similar level opposition as us, he finds it really difficult to rescue points with tactical intervention.

He can set up a team going into a game but unlike other managers that can rescue points from losing positions more likely than not we don't.

And to be fair to him it was the same "sh*t" style deployed in some big games he has been hailed as a tactical genius for. Spurs semi final for fa cup at Wembley comes to mind. Hold out for almost 65 mins then throw on everyone at same time. Only problem is here we were already behind and he doesn't believe in himself to turn it around.

As much wrong as Conte's doing at the minute, we have rescued more late points under him than any other manager i remember.

34 minutes ago, Argo said:

As much wrong as Conte's doing at the minute, we have rescued more late points under him than any other manager i remember.

You sure of that?

3 hours ago, Ernie_blue said:

If Fabs passing was better and Moses somehow got his chance in we would have won, it was a great performance .

idk who you are laughing at, we agree it was a sh*t performance. 

18 hours ago, ZAYN-CFC said:

I am sure Bakayoko, Zappacosta, Alonso, Emerson, Morata were all Conte signings. Drove out Diego Costa, bald loser.

 

I think all but Bakayoko were. Conte consistently alludes to the fact that Bakayoko isn't ready for the top level (then why go for him, as an experienced manager?), and he'd have no reason to have been invested in the French league (and this was Bakayoko's only standout season, before we bought him). Just like Conte admits he didn't know about Emerson from his own back yard, I highly doubt he'd seen 50 minutes of Bakayoko. At no point do I believe Conte said anything similar to 'I like this player' re: Baka.

Edited March 6, 20188 yr by fiel