3 hours ago, DumbYank said:

Actually that is not the case.  High ankle sprains are commonly misdiagnosed.  https://www.foothealthfacts.org/article/sprained-ankles-can-be-complicated-and-misdiagnose

 

 

Interesting. Thanks for the info!

2 hours ago, DumbYank said:

I've been told on here, presumably by Englishmen, that it is perfectly acceptable to refer to the game as association football, or the s word for short. 

Yeah we all call it association football, just rolls off the tongue.

4 hours ago, coco said:

Yeah we all call it association football, just rolls off the tongue.

Yeah but you guys say association and football funny.

Wait. Americans call it "Soccer" as a shortened abbreviation of "Association Football" ??

Edited October 21, 20214 yr by CaitlinCFC

2 hours ago, CaitlinCFC said:

Wait. Americans call it "Soccer" as a shortened abbreviation of "Association Football" ??

It's what I read on the net one time so it must be true.

Apparently, there was Ruggers Football and Association Football.  I guess for short back then they would say assocca or something which became soccer.  I guess Brits used the term.  Ruggers Football obviously became Rugby.

Here's a blurb from Wikipedia

"Football is one of a family of football codes, which emerged from various ball games played worldwide since antiquity.

The term soccer comes from Oxford "-er" slang, which was prevalent at Oxford University in England from about 1875, and is thought to have been borrowed from the slang of Rugby School. The slang also gave rise to rugger for Rugby football, fiver and tenner for a five-pound and ten-pound note, and the now archaic footer for association football.^[9] The word soccer (which arrived at its final form in 1895) was first recorded in 1889 in the earlier form of socca.^[10]

Within the English-speaking world, association football is now usually called "football" in the United Kingdom, whereas people usually call it "soccer" in countries where other codes of football are prevalent, such as Australia,^[11] Canada, South Africa and the United States. A notable exception is New Zealand, where in the first two decades of the 21st century, under the influence of international television, "football" has been gaining prevalence, despite the dominance of other codes of football, namely rugby union, and rugby league.^[12]"

 

2 hours ago, CaitlinCFC said:

Wait. Americans call it "Soccer" as a shortened abbreviation of "Association Football" ??

The rules of association football were codified in England by the Football Association in 1863, and the nickname association football was coined in England to distinguish the game from the  versions of football played at the time, in particular rugby football. The word soccer is an abbreviation of association (from assoc.) and first appeared in English private schools and universities in the 1880s (sometimes using the variant spelling "socker").^[1][2][3][4] The word is sometimes credited to Charles Wreford-Brown, an Oxford University student said to have been fond of shortened forms such as brekkers for breakfast and rugger for rugby football (see Oxford -er). However, the attribution to Wreford-Brown in particular is generally considered to be spurious. Clive Toye noted "they took the third, fourth and fifth letters of Association and called it SOCcer."^[5]

The term association football has never been widely used, although in Britain some clubs in rugby football strongholds adopted the suffix Association Football Club (A.F.C.) to avoid confusion with the dominant sport in their area, and FIFA, the world governing body for the sport, is a French-language acronym of "Fédération Internationale de Football Association" – the International Federation of Association Football. "Soccer football" is used less often than it once was: the United States Soccer Federation was known as the United States Soccer Football Association from 1945 until 1974, when it adopted its current name and the Canadian Soccer Association was known as the Canadian Soccer Football Association from 1958 to 1971.

Reaction against soccer[edit]

For nearly a hundred years after it was coined, soccer was an accepted and uncontroversial alternative in Britain to football, often in colloquial and juvenile contexts, but was also widely used in formal speech and in writing about the game.^[6] "Soccer" was a term used by the upper class whereas the working and middle class preferred the word "football"; as the upper class lost influence in British society from the 1960s on, "football" supplanted "soccer" as the most commonly used and accepted word. There is evidence that the use of soccer is declining in Britain and is now considered there as an American English term.^[6] Since the early twenty-first century, the peak association football bodies in soccer-speaking Australia and New Zealand have actively promoted the use of football to mirror international usage and, at least in the Australian case, to rebrand a sport that had been experiencing difficulties.^[7] Both bodies dropped soccer from their names.^[8] These efforts have met with considerable success in New Zealand.^[9]

 

 

I found this on Wiki too.  Interestingly, soccer here in America is still an upper middle class game.  It's one of the main reasons why we are behind other countries.  You pretty much need money to become well trained in soccer here. Or the willingness to sacrifice. The game is largely unavailable to lower middle and lower classes here, with the exception of Mexican-American communities, many of which have plenty of Dads who can get the kids started.  Here very few Dads have any clue about this game.  It's getting better and in 10 or 20 years, most American communities will have Dad's who can get kids going with some decent knowledge.   I think it's the sport with most American youth participants.  But in the youth rec leagues for younger kids, it's mostly what I call Boosh Ball.   Just kick it and try to run past people.  Little to no competent coaching for free. 

 My youngest son is a decent player and his club fees and trips amount to several thousand annually for him as a U13.  It can be much more expensive than this.   It's a lot for us and a sacrifice. 

Afrikaans	sokker
Albanian	futboll
Arabic	كرة القدم (kurat alqadam)
Armenian	ֆուտբոլ
Bengali	সকার / ফুটবল (sakāra / phuṭabala)
Bosnian	nogomet
Cantonese	足球 (juk1 kau4)
Catalan	futbol
Chinese (Simplified)	足球 (Zúqiú)
Chinese (Traditional)	足球 (Zúqiú : ㄗㄨˊ ㄑㄧㄡˊ)
Croatian	nogomet
Czech	kopaná
Danish	fodbold
Dutch	voetbal
English (American)	soccer
English (British)	football
Esperanto	futbalo
Finnish	jalkapallo
French	football
German	Fußball
Greek	ποδόσφαιρο (podósfairo)
Haitian Creole	foutbòl
Hindi	फुटबॉल (phutabol)
Hungarian	futball
Icelandic	fótbolti
Indonesian	sepak bola
Italian	calcio
Japanese	サッカー (sakkā )
Korean	축구 (chuggu)
Latin	pediludium
Latvian	futbols
Macedonian	фудбал (fudbal)
Norwegian	fotball
Polish	piłka nożna
Portuguese (Brazil)	futebol
Portuguese (Portugal)	futebol
Romanian	fotbal
Russian	футбол (futbol)
Serbian	fudbal
Slovak	futbal
Spanish (Latin America)	fútbol
Spanish (Spain)	fútbol
Swahili	soka
Swedish	fotboll
Taiwanese (MinNan)	that-kha-kiû (踢跤球)
Tamil	கால்பந்து (kālpantu)
Thai	ฟุตบอล (futbxl)
Turkish	futbol
Vietnamese	bóng đá
Welsh	pêl-droed

I have another son who plays American Football.  

My family use football a lot of times for both sports.  We say FOOTBALLLLL for the American game in a redneck, southern gravelly voice (if  you know what that means).

And we pronounce the FIFA game in a much more genteel way with a bad admixture of Toff English and Spanish.

 

But is definitely soccer here. 

24 minutes ago, DumbYank said:

It's what I read on the net one time so it must be true.

 

4 hours ago, CaitlinCFC said:

Wait. Americans call it "Soccer" as a shortened abbreviation of "Association Football" ??

I believe the term football came up because it was a sport played on foot as opposed to on horse.

 

So a lot of early sports were called football simply because they were not played on foot.  Hence the reason why it's used in the names of Association Football, Rugby (Rugby Football Union), American Football, Canadian Football, Aussie Rules football etc etc etc.

 

Soccer stuck here mainly because American football is also very popular.  

 

I heard somewhere that Pulisic trained alone today?

If true, first step to coming back.

 

 

8 hours ago, haviet1 said:

I heard somewhere that Pulisic trained alone today?

If true, first step to coming back.

 

 

I hope it was a careful step, he might have sprained his ankle otherwise.

13 hours ago, Valpo said:

Soccer stuck here mainly because American football is also very popular.  

Rest of the World Football is a bit of a mouthful 

Apparently soccer is used is South East Asia, Australia & South Africa so the whole ‘aMeRiCaNs StOoPiD!1!1!!!1!’ stereotype people like to throw around like monkeys flinging faeces is complete bollocks anyway.

Amazing what 10 seconds of googling can do!

15 hours ago, coco said:

Afrikaans	sokker
Albanian	futboll
Arabic	كرة القدم (kurat alqadam)
Armenian	ֆուտբոլ
Bengali	সকার / ফুটবল (sakāra / phuṭabala)
Bosnian	nogomet
Cantonese	足球 (juk1 kau4)
Catalan	futbol
Chinese (Simplified)	足球 (Zúqiú)
Chinese (Traditional)	足球 (Zúqiú : ㄗㄨˊ ㄑㄧㄡˊ)
Croatian	nogomet
Czech	kopaná
Danish	fodbold
Dutch	voetbal
English (American)	soccer
English (British)	football
Esperanto	futbalo
Finnish	jalkapallo
French	football
German	Fußball
Greek	ποδόσφαιρο (podósfairo)
Haitian Creole	foutbòl
Hindi	फुटबॉल (phutabol)
Hungarian	futball
Icelandic	fótbolti
Indonesian	sepak bola
Italian	calcio
Japanese	サッカー (sakkā )
Korean	축구 (chuggu)
Latin	pediludium
Latvian	futbols
Macedonian	фудбал (fudbal)
Norwegian	fotball
Polish	piłka nożna
Portuguese (Brazil)	futebol
Portuguese (Portugal)	futebol
Romanian	fotbal
Russian	футбол (futbol)
Serbian	fudbal
Slovak	futbal
Spanish (Latin America)	fútbol
Spanish (Spain)	fútbol
Swahili	soka
Swedish	fotboll
Taiwanese (MinNan)	that-kha-kiû (踢跤球)
Tamil	கால்பந்து (kālpantu)
Thai	ฟุตบอล (futbxl)
Turkish	futbol
Vietnamese	bóng đá
Welsh	pêl-droed

Viallinese: eet ees fudbol!

3 hours ago, Munkworth said:

Rest of the World Football is a bit of a mouthful 

Apparently soccer is used is South East Asia, Australia & South Africa so the whole ‘aMeRiCaNs StOoPiD!1!1!!!1!’ stereotype people like to throw around like monkeys flinging faeces is complete bollocks anyway.

Amazing what 10 seconds of googling can do!

Some of us are stupid.  Some of us aren’t.  Like me with the clever screen name.

 

 

 

Pulisic is giving off a very big Daniel Sturridge vibe at the moment.

26 minutes ago, DumbYank said:

Some of us are stupid.  Some of us aren’t.  Like me with the clever screen name.

Some people just have an annoying avatar 

3 hours ago, Munkworth said:

Some people just have an annoying avatar 

Puts me in a very vulnerable frame of mind.  Like I would do anything that damn cat tells me to do. 

Presumably a clone or some sort of advanced hologram:

See if he can make the bench, would be good to get him 20 minutes to replace CHO.

4 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

See if he can make the bench, would be good to get him 20 minutes to replace CHO.

Given the Werner and Lukaku injuries having him back is huge because we're getting a bit thin at forward.  

Hopefully after coming off the bench for 20 minutes they can maybe have him match fit for either the Champion's league tilt with Malmo or the EPL match with Burnley on Nov 6.  

On 21/10/2021 at 12:46, DumbYank said:

I have another son who plays American Football.  

My family use football a lot of times for both sports.  We say FOOTBALLLLL for the American game in a redneck, southern gravelly voice (if  you know what that means).

And we pronounce the FIFA game in a much more genteel way with a bad admixture of Toff English and Spanish.

 

But is definitely soccer here. 

LOL. I definitely say (MADDEN) FOOTBALL the same way you explained.  lol

30 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

Presumably a clone or some sort of advanced hologram:

This was literally the first picture on my facebook.  The USMNT will be needing him against Mexico.  Hopefully he can come back fit this time.  CONCACAF is pretty physical though.  

15 minutes ago, The Don Antonio said:

LOL. I definitely say (MADDEN) FOOTBALL the same way you explained.  lol

Funny story when I am watching American football and I see the ball pop out I always yell "FUMBLE" but my kids think I'm just randomly yelling "FOOTBALL!!!"

The whole soccer/football thing is confusing to them because they are watching Chelsea matches with me and it's being referred to as football by the people on TV and they like to listen to "Blue is the Color" after every win and that song refers to it as football.   But then I try telling them that Chelsea plays soccer and the Indianapolis Colts play football.  

23 minutes ago, Valpo said:

Funny story when I am watching American football and I see the ball pop out I always yell "FUMBLE" but my kids think I'm just randomly yelling "FOOTBALL!!!"

The whole soccer/football thing is confusing to them because they are watching Chelsea matches with me and it's being referred to as football by the people on TV and they like to listen to "Blue is the Color" after every win and that song refers to it as football.   But then I try telling them that Chelsea plays soccer and the Indianapolis Colts play football.  

Lol. I can relate. Never too late to switch to the Giants though.. lmfao