8 hours ago, USATim said:

Pulisic still looks injured. And it looked like he was limping at the end of Burnley. Hope it wasn't Chelsea that rushed him back too quick. That would be ironic now.

Werent you the one complaining there was a conspiracy that we werent playing him, and we were covering something up. Cant have it both ways.

On 07/11/2021 at 10:42, USATim said:

Uhhhh... no. There is this event, pretty important, called the Olympics. And, if Pulisic ever has a good World Cup showing, he would rake in the endorsement dollars here in the US big time. So, you couldn't be more wrong.

You would be right if this was still 1982.

The Olympics, commericially and socially, are sadly a fast-declining property. In mens football, the Olympics is a meaningless youth tournament especially when compared to the womens' game.

Pulisic's performances for Chelsea, not the USMNT, are what will rake in the dollars for Chelsea - just as it was for Fulham with Dempsey or Everton with Tim Howard. As an Australian, i've seen this happen over and over again with our own players.

 

On 05/11/2021 at 17:56, sonic90 said:

This is gol15 in the Jorginho thread all over again, but worse!

At least @gol15 is a Chelsea supporter. This guy is a borderline trol.  God forbid if a Chelsea plane crashed all he would care about is if Pulisic survived.

On 06/11/2021 at 17:33, SydneyChelsea said:

It's important to the USMNT, but as I said, they don't pay his wages - or his medical bills. There is little if any reward for Chelsea when Pulisic plays for the US.

No other job in the world requires an employer to risk their employee assets for no reward. 

In no other job other than professional athletics are the employee's bodies themselves the assets.

FIFA has a an important interest in making the international game a big part of the sport as well. 

Is the Transfer window open yet ? Hear Eddie Howe's minted now and looking to spend spend spend!

Is there any room for him when everyone is fit? Callum, Kai, Werner, Ziyech and Mount are currently ahead of him for those two positions, possibly even Barkley aswell. If he ended last season the way the ended 19/20 I'd be inclined to say put him back in from the start but after his last season I wouldn't blink even if he's not on the bench. He's going to have to do what Callum, Ruben and Ross did and really really make the most of the little minutes he gets.

His best chance of breaking into this side at this point is reinventing himself as a wingback.

Kind of think Pulisic's main issue will be getting and staying fit, isn't he injured again?

On 05/11/2021 at 04:22, wizardous said:

Calm down. You are in a good position to qualify and there are still a lot of games left. I don't think it would be smart to play him for more than 15-20 minutes.

I'm sorry to inform you that this is a Chelsea forum, not a US national team forum.

Not accurate. This window is a MUST GET six points. Later on we travel to Mexico, to Canada, and end at Costa Rica. Our manager sucks, so we will probably drop points in all three. Nothing is given. US soccer can't  survive another 4 years of no WC.

8 hours ago, The Don Antonio said:

At least @gol15 is a Chelsea supporter. This guy is a borderline trol.  God forbid if a Chelsea plane crashed all he would care about is if Pulisic 

Uhhhhh... no. I like Mason Mount too. He is a stud.

It must be nearly Christmas, @coco hasn't hit any buttons yet!

17 minutes ago, USATim said:

Uhhhhh... no. I like Mason Mount too. He is a stud.

SMFH

6 minutes ago, Mod Stark said:

It must be nearly Christmas, @coco hasn't hit any buttons yet!

5 hours ago, Argo said:

Is there any room for him when everyone is fit? Callum, Kai, Werner, Ziyech and Mount are currently ahead of him for those two positions, possibly even Barkley aswell. If he ended last season the way the ended 19/20 I'd be inclined to say put him back in from the start but after his last season I wouldn't blink even if he's not on the bench. He's going to have to do what Callum, Ruben and Ross did and really really make the most of the little minutes he gets.

His best chance of breaking into this side at this point is reinventing himself as a wingback.

The team could use more goal scoring eventually probably.  But CP probably needs to be a wide player and I think he gets knocked off the ball to much for wingback.  That said I thought he looked good in the first match back.  
 

I think he could be dangerous playing off and into Lukaku.  

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22 minutes ago, coco said:

We should poll it, who stays, Tim or a Tottenham fan!

37 minutes ago, Mod Stark said:

We should poll it, who stays, Tim or a Tottenham fan!

 

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Ah it'll be alright, a few months and Christian will be at Genoa.

11 hours ago, Valpo said:

In no other job other than professional athletics are the employee's bodies themselves the assets.

FIFA has a an vested interest in making the international game a big part of the sport as well. 

Only FIFA and its member associations profit from a World Cup/tournaments. The World Cup or Euros make no money for professional clubs. In most member associations, the 'trickle-down' effect into grass roots is negligible due to poor adminstration at best, and at worst, outright corruption. 

Commercially, FIFA and international football are a competitor to the domestic leagues. And only in football do we expect clubs to loan their players risk-free to a competitor for no reward, like a McDonalds loaning their staff to Taco Bell free of charge. Chelsea pay for the player's development, training, transfer fee, wages and medical treatment; national teams don't pay a cent.

When Pulisic plays for the USMNT he makes no tangible or intangible economic benefit for Chelsea. Chelsea only release him because they are contractually obligated to do so by virtue of FIFA laws. 

6 hours ago, The Don Antonio said:

SMFH

He is clearly being sarcastic. If he were being serious he would have said he wishes Mason played for the USMNT.

1 hour ago, SydneyChelsea said:

Only FIFA and its member associations profit from a World Cup/tournaments. The World Cup or Euros make no money for professional clubs. In most member associations, the 'trickle-down' effect into grass roots is negligible due to poor adminstration at best, and at worst, outright corruption. 

Commercially, FIFA and international football are a competitor to the domestic leagues. And only in football do we expect clubs to loan their players risk-free to a competitor for no reward, like a McDonalds loaning their staff to Taco Bell free of charge. Chelsea pay for the player's development, training, transfer fee, wages and medical treatment; national teams don't pay a cent.

When Pulisic plays for the USMNT he makes no tangible or intangible economic benefit for Chelsea. Chelsea only release him because they are contractually obligated to do so by virtue of FIFA laws. 

Indeed, all the fall back we had on greedy clubs for the super league yet we put up with Fifa and Uefa doing worse.

16 hours ago, Argo said:

Is there any room for him when everyone is fit? Callum, Kai, Werner, Ziyech and Mount are currently ahead of him for those two positions, possibly even Barkley aswell. If he ended last season the way the ended 19/20 I'd be inclined to say put him back in from the start but after his last season I wouldn't blink even if he's not on the bench. He's going to have to do what Callum, Ruben and Ross did and really really make the most of the little minutes he gets.

His best chance of breaking into this side at this point is reinventing himself as a wingback.

See this I'm not sure about, a fully fit Pulisic can be an excellent player, especially as he has that x factor where he can dribble past players and take them on. I admit its super frustrating seeing him always injured, but lets not remember how good he can be for us. He can hopefully get back up to speed soon and start making the difference for us in those tight games. 

46 minutes ago, Oli said:

See this I'm not sure about, a fully fit Pulisic can be an excellent player, especially as he has that x factor where he can dribble past players and take them on. I admit its super frustrating seeing him always injured, but lets not remember how good he can be for us. He can hopefully get back up to speed soon and start making the difference for us in those tight games. 

While I don't disagree he's excellent on form the problem is how often do we see it? He low-key had an absolute stinker of a season last season, the credit he built from the restart form protected him from a lot of criticism in my opinion.

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20 hours ago, The Don Antonio said:

At least @gol15 is a Chelsea supporter. This guy is a borderline trol.  God forbid if a Chelsea plane crashed all he would care about is if Pulisic survived.

At least. Though you will find that it's no surprise that from my perspective it's rather debatable regarding who made the Jorginho thread bad, the repeatedly seen negativity towards Jorginho vanished as it was proven to be altogether a weak display all in its due time, much like a gloomy morning fog that evaporates once the Sun comes up.

I do hope that Pulisic comes back after a heavy loss to México as a stronger player, that will finally find some consistency under Tuchel. I remember Ronaldo when he was just a bit younger than Pulisic is right now, he was already working out on his physique and could take hits every game, an example is this:

If Pulisic wants to survive that kind of a tackle, if you ask me he will need to gain some muscle mass and improve physically because he can't expect to take on players regularly if his body can't take some hits.

2 hours ago, Argo said:

While I don't disagree he's excellent on form the problem is how often do we see it? He low-key had an absolute stinker of a season last season, the credit he built from the restart form protected him from a lot of criticism in my opinion.

I think it’s because Tuchel plays him on his weaker right, where he has to cross the ball in. Even his little cameo on the weekend was on the right, find it bizarre for a manager who pays attention to the finer details.

10 hours ago, axman2526 said:

He is clearly being sarcastic. If he were being serious he would have said he wishes Mason played for the USMNT.

Indeed, all the fall back we had on greedy clubs for the super league yet we put up with Fifa and Uefa doing worse.

Obviously I know he was being sarcastic. I was SMFH at the troling

4 hours ago, Gol15 said:

At least. Though you will find that it's no surprise that from my perspective it's rather debatable regarding who made the Jorginho thread bad, the repeatedly seen negativity towards Jorginho vanished as it was proven to be altogether a weak display all in its due time, much like a gloomy morning fog that evaporates once the Sun comes up.

I do hope that Pulisic comes back after a heavy loss to México as a stronger player, that will finally find some consistency under Tuchel. I remember Ronaldo when he was just a bit younger than Pulisic is right now, he was already working out on his physique and could take hits every game, an example is this:

If Pulisic wants to survive that kind of a tackle, if you ask me he will need to gain some muscle mass and improve physically because he can't expect to take on players regularly if his body can't take some hits.

Totally agree about him improving his physique but I also remember Ronaldo ( in Madrid) saying he also learnt not to go into all challenges and also learning to fall when anticipating contact so as to minimize injury... 

P.s there is a big difference in falling and diving.

We all know how devastating Pulisic can be when healthy like after project restart when he carried us over the line in the race for top 4. I actually feel like he would be a better foil to Lukaku than Havertz but we still haven't had the luxury of seeing them combine in a blue shirt.

Also props to you for seeing the talent and how crucial Jorginho was to the team when others were just hating due to agendas and not really understanding what he brought to the team

6 hours ago, Gol15 said:

At least. Though you will find that it's no surprise that from my perspective it's rather debatable regarding who made the Jorginho thread bad, the repeatedly seen negativity towards Jorginho vanished as it was proven to be altogether a weak display all in its due time, much like a gloomy morning fog that evaporates once the Sun comes up.

I do hope that Pulisic comes back after a heavy loss to México as a stronger player, that will finally find some consistency under Tuchel. I remember Ronaldo when he was just a bit younger than Pulisic is right now, he was already working out on his physique and could take hits every game, an example is this:

If Pulisic wants to survive that kind of a tackle, if you ask me he will need to gain some muscle mass and improve physically because he can't expect to take on players regularly if his body can't take some hits.

Thing is that Ronaldo is 6'2" tall or 187 CM and has a much bigger frame.  Pulisic is 5'10" or 177 CM

By weight Ronaldo has 26 pounds (11.79 kg) on Pulisic.  (161 (73 kg) to 187 (84.82 kg) according to google)  

I'm not sure if Pulisic is capable of being as big as Ronaldo weight wise and still being competitive.