We are linked. Not what I think we need but clearly I know nothing. 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/01/09/chelsea-tottenham-want-thomas-lemar-loan-face-competition-european/

4 goals in 64 games for Leti, I know it's not all about goals as a winger but that's horrific.

The only justification for this would be if we've been told Sancho is available but not until the summer and he's merely a loan for additional squad depth until then.

9 hours ago, Argo said:

4 goals in 64 games for Leti, I know it's not all about goals as a winger but that's horrific.

The only justification for this would be if we've been told Sancho is available but not until the summer and he's merely a loan for additional squad depth until then.

I think if that’s the case with Sancho, then a loan like this is perfect. 6 months for squad depth. In the summer sign Sancho, hopefully get Willian back on a 1 year deal, and roll with Sancho-Willian-CHO-Pulisic as our 4 main wingers next season.

10 hours ago, Argo said:

4 goals in 64 games for Leti, I know it's not all about goals as a winger but that's horrific.

The only justification for this would be if we've been told Sancho is available but not until the summer and he's merely a loan for additional squad depth until then.

Don’t let them tell you different, it is strictly about goals & assists with Forwards & Wingers. If you are busy punishing the opposition, your defensive numbers wouldn’t matter.

He was a one season wonder at Monaco. I didn't want him then and I certainly don't want him now.

Bizarre how many players looked guns that season at Monaco and have since fallen away. Of that team I'd say only Mbappe, Silva and perhaps Fabinho have had a comparable season since. 

He's a no for me. I've always found him an interesting player who is quite creative and has a good cross/corner (left footed too), but beyond that season and perhaps one or two games for France I've never seen him be really consistent. He certainly isn't a Simeone player and from recent press conferences sounds like he would be happy to be rid of him.

Look he may not work... but to judge him as a player based on his stats at Atleti is silly.

He's left footed playing as a left midfielder in a 4-4-2, if his role was to score, he'd be on the right. A loan for him could be a nice boon, to get a chance to see what he could do as a left footed player as a right sided attacker. A lot of big clubs were tracking him early which means he has ability. The whole reason Atletico are open to a loan to buy makes sense, they think he's better than how he shows in their system. They could off load him now for a lessor fee, or recoup a lot more betting he will impress.

I don't think you find a left footed winger with big club experience unless something didn't fit somewhere. At the very least he'd give Frank a nice option off the bench. He checks 2 boxes people want here, a left footed attacker and someone whose dangerous from distance for the teams that pack it in. Here's a free kick from when he was 20: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ley48HrCDh8&feature=youtu.be&t=33s

19 minutes ago, Wearyourblue said:

Look he may not work... but to judge him as a player based on his stats at Atleti is silly.

He's left footed playing as a left midfielder in a 4-4-2, if his role was to score, he'd be on the right. A loan for him could be a nice boon, to get a chance to see what he could do as a left footed player as a right sided attacker. A lot of big clubs were tracking him early which means he has ability. The whole reason Atletico are open to a loan to buy makes sense, they think he's better than how he shows in their system. They could off load him now for a lessor fee, or recoup a lot more betting he will impress.

I don't think you find a left footed winger with big club experience unless something didn't fit somewhere. At the very least he'd give Frank a nice option off the bench. He checks 2 boxes people want here, a left footed attacker and someone whose dangerous from distance for the teams that pack it in. Here's a free kick from when he was 20: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ley48HrCDh8&feature=youtu.be&t=33s

I think that is fair though think where we are at the moment we need a back up striker as Bats isn't working and think we are well stocked in attacking midfield. 

41 minutes ago, Wearyourblue said:

Look he may not work... but to judge him as a player based on his stats at Atleti is silly.

He's left footed playing as a left midfielder in a 4-4-2, if his role was to score, he'd be on the right. A loan for him could be a nice boon, to get a chance to see what he could do as a left footed player as a right sided attacker. A lot of big clubs were tracking him early which means he has ability. The whole reason Atletico are open to a loan to buy makes sense, they think he's better than how he shows in their system. They could off load him now for a lessor fee, or recoup a lot more betting he will impress.

I don't think you find a left footed winger with big club experience unless something didn't fit somewhere. At the very least he'd give Frank a nice option off the bench. He checks 2 boxes people want here, a left footed attacker and someone whose dangerous from distance for the teams that pack it in. Here's a free kick from when he was 20: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ley48HrCDh8&feature=youtu.be&t=33s

Not judging him on his stats at all. A player I'd sign in a heartbeat from Atletico is Saul who doesn't score or assist that often but plays an 8/10 every week. Even when Simeone makes him play out of position.

Lemar played on the left in a similar 4-4-2 regularly with Jardim at Monaco where he played his best football (albeit they weren't as defensive). I watched his game against Betis recently. He played 50 odd minutes, misplaced passes and generally created nothing before being withdrawn.

I think he is one of those players where the theoretical idea of him and his underlying abilities is far better than the end result. His technical ability is superb but like lot of the French attackers in the last decade (Nasri, Ben Arfa, Payet etc.) he struggles to combine well with other players. 

The reason he is linked with us is because his agent his Mendes, who is obviously shopping him around.

Edited January 10, 20206 yr by Spiller86

I'd entertain the idea of a loan move.  It's minimal risk and we don't have to go through with a permanent deal if it doesn't work out.  He still has a skill set that could be useful, and the fact he's left footed is also handy.  We're not going to be getting absolute superstars in this transfer window, so this loan move could provide some depth until the end of the season where we look to launch into spending money on players such as Sancho, who would be ideal.

1 hour ago, Michael said:

I'd entertain the idea of a loan move.  It's minimal risk and we don't have to go through with a permanent deal if it doesn't work out.  He still has a skill set that could be useful, and the fact he's left footed is also handy.  We're not going to be getting absolute superstars in this transfer window, so this loan move could provide some depth until the end of the season where we look to launch into spending money on players such as Sancho, who would be ideal.

Won’t a loan move be pointless for a player like Lemar if he needs time to adapt or get used to the pace of the league. I can understand a loan move for a Cavani who has always scored goals, taking on a player low on confidence and rusty doesn’t usually work on the short term. 
I would stay away from this one as it reminds me of the Falcao move.

10 hours ago, Wearyourblue said:

Look he may not work... but to judge him as a player based on his stats at Atleti is silly.

He's left footed playing as a left midfielder in a 4-4-2, if his role was to score, he'd be on the right. A loan for him could be a nice boon, to get a chance to see what he could do as a left footed player as a right sided attacker. A lot of big clubs were tracking him early which means he has ability. The whole reason Atletico are open to a loan to buy makes sense, they think he's better than how he shows in their system. They could off load him now for a lessor fee, or recoup a lot more betting he will impress.

I don't think you find a left footed winger with big club experience unless something didn't fit somewhere. At the very least he'd give Frank a nice option off the bench. He checks 2 boxes people want here, a left footed attacker and someone whose dangerous from distance for the teams that pack it in. Here's a free kick from when he was 20: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ley48HrCDh8&feature=youtu.be&t=33s

Agree with @Spiller86, he is better left midfielder.

I honestly havent seen much off him at Atletico, but i watched a fair bit of him at Monaco, and he never really stood out to me. 

The season following the league title, he played more as a 10, and had more responsibly, and in all honesty, he never really stepped up. Which is why Monaco got less for him, than they turned down a year before. 

Would he really be a better option than pedro, especially when you take into account the adjustment period, and the fact he wont be starting every week. 

Its low risk because its a loan, but i actually think its pretty unlikely that he would be able to adjust quickly enough to have an impact. 

Lampard seems to shot down a lot of the rumours, he has said pedro isnt for sale, so may this lemar rumours is another for the bullsh*t pile. 

Edited January 11, 20206 yr by big blue

Hopefully. This is all Mendes in my view @big blue No interest on our side nor should their be

No thanks, didn't rate him at Monaco either.

A loan with an option to buy, i could see the club being keen.  He's an attacker like Frank wants, and is low risk. 

On the other hand, you also get the sense its a BS story and is just his reps hawking him around.   I think we will get 1 or 2 in, but i think they may be players who havent been mentioned yet

Never rated this guy. Was relieved when he went elsewhere the first time. 

Willian is better. Lemar has a worldie pass every now and then and that's it. He doesn't have pace, average vision and average skill. 

The 2 players we should ever buy from that Monaco side is Fabinho and Mbappe

3 minutes ago, Deino said:

Willian is better. Lemar has a worldie pass every now and then and that's it. He doesn't have pace, average vision and average skill. 

The 2 players we should ever buy from that Monaco side is Fabinho and Mbappe

I would have had Mendy too before his injury.

Agree on the rest though. A similar player who is left footed who I would have loved was Malcom. He chased every ball and was superb whenever he got on the pitch at Barca last season (check out the highlights of his game against Real Madrid for an example). Sadly Valverde never wanted him signed and so never played him. A lot of Barca fans were very angry when they sold him. He has been injured with Zenit but might be one to keep an eye on. Players can go to Russia and then be at a different team again quite quickly. 

2 hours ago, Deino said:

The 2 players we should ever buy from that Monaco side is Fabinho and Mbappe

That Bernardo Silva bloke isn't doing too badly at City. either.

It's incredible that out of that whole Monaco side, of all players, we went after Bakayoko. You didn't have to be a professional scout to see he was crap even back then, but somehow we ended up with him.

Edited January 14, 20206 yr by abramovich

10 minutes ago, abramovich said:

That Bernardo Silva bloke isn't doing too badly at City. either.

It's incredible that out of that whole Monaco side, of all players, we went after Bakayoko. You didn't have to be a professional scout to see he was crap even back then, but somehow we ended up with him.

And I said so before we bought him. Now he’s back there. At the time I thought Silva was the buy and ignored Mbappe. Ajax last year is the same sort of thing as Monaco then. Van der Beek?