7 hours ago, Gol15 said:

The fact that you have Torres in your profile picture while constantly saying that he's our worst signing looks funny to me...I know it's not an argument, you can still be happy for that particular goal and still think he's our worst signing at the same time, but you're looking great as a poster because of it in ways I can't really explain ?

Hahaha that could say more for the fact I haven't updated my profile picture in 7 and a bit years!

Even that night I remember abusing him for not being behind the ball in the last few seconds (not forgetting the Iniesta disaster a few seasons before), all of a sudden the ball broke to him with only Valdes in front...

8 hours ago, DidierDrogbalala said:

 

Yup back to his normal self. Not only the lack of willingness to come and attack crosses but a powerpuff attempt to save a piss poor header.

As bad as the Burnley keeper last week on Tammy's goal.

Btw another appearance by Emerson. Another loss. Since we are finger pointing at Kante let's not forget our bad luck charm of a poor left back.

We always seem to lose to teams that are desperate for 3 points, it is almost like a mentality thing now. I'm not going to have a go but I think Frank needs to stick with the Kovacic - Jorginho midfield, Kante at the moment doesn't warrant his place in the team, and as much I love the little guy he doesn't really suit our current style.

It's 100% clear we need far more consistency performance wise and we need more of a killer instinct. We need players who can score from range, especially against teams that sit back and watch us pass it to death around their box.

If that result doesn't give us means to strengthen I don't know what will!.

11 hours ago, Gol15 said:

Another calculated loss mate ? Nobody won today, probably the only team around us to win will be Leicester tomorrow.

Pretty sure Newcastle won mate

well at least the bozos from north london helped chelsea remain in top 4. Only wolves seem to be a threat. Oh, btw, manure might get a draw at anfield at best. So chelsea are pretty much lucky that the competition isn't too fierce. Otherwise it would have been way worse.

Edited January 19, 20206 yr by Londonisblue

I reckon that Kanté's form/position is becoming problematic. Either build around the whole team or try putting him for the big games.

As the ball came in for their goal, I’m thinking there has to be at least a 50-50 chance of it reaching their man ... so why isn’t Kepa thinking that? He’s got to be preparing for a worst case scene scenario which is that the centre-backs don’t clear it ... instead he’s just waiting and is taken by complete surprise when their man has a free header! I’d rather bring back Czech ... no matter how old he is!

18 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

A joke of a performance. 

Basically, all teams need to do is defend against us, because 9 times out 10, they are going to get a result. Pathetic from nearly every player on the pitch today. They never f**king learn though, especially the older players. They have had a career at Chelsea playing against these teams and tactics, there really is no excuse for them to have not adjusted to it by now. 

I blame Lampard for sticking with this dogsh*t Kante and Jorginho combination, but when it comes to the approach to the game, I blame the players. We see this every season. I could understand it happening once or twice, but for years now, every time a team sets themselves up defensively against us, we just don't play with correct attitude. You cannot win games where your winger that sees so much ball can't be bothered to take on a defender in 1v1 situation, you can't win games when nobody wants to play quick passes and make clever movements off the ball. You can't win games if you're not going to take shots. You can't win games with a slow and lazy approach. Hazard used to save our asses so many times in these types of games, now that he isn't here, it really does show how poor the others are.

Today feels like a game that will really bite us on the ass. This is by far the toughest period of our season, and we are going into it with a defeat and poor performance.

Honestly I didn't think the actual performance yesterday was too bad. We restricted Newcastle to scraps and unfortunately weren't clinical enough.

I'm more wounded about losing James to be honest, absolute massive blow as he has been our best player of late and our other fullbacks aren't good enough.

5 minutes ago, Argo said:

Honestly I didn't think the actual performance yesterday was too bad. We restricted Newcastle to scraps and unfortunately weren't clinical enough.

I'm more wounded about losing James to be honest, absolute massive blow as he has been our best player of late and our other fullbacks aren't good enough.

Offensively it was awful and appalling to watch.

10 minutes ago, Argo said:

Honestly I didn't think the actual performance yesterday was too bad. We restricted Newcastle to scraps and unfortunately weren't clinical enough.

I'm more wounded about losing James to be honest, absolute massive blow as he has been our best player of late and our other fullbacks aren't good enough.

But when you consider the fact that Newcastle's average possession this season is 34.4%, then you realise it's not that great. We did nothing for all that possession, for me it was same ole same ole. 

5 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Offensively it was awful and appalling to watch.

Point is there was still enough chances that we kept making bad decisions on, we got into positions to score.

As much as it wasn't the best performance in the world, that ends up a Newcastle win 1 time in 50.

3 minutes ago, Argo said:

Point is there was still enough chances that we kept making bad decisions on, we got into positions to score.

As much as it wasn't the best performance in the world, that ends up a Newcastle win 1 time in 50.

I disagree, I think we could've played that for about 10 hours and still wouldn't have scored. We never looked like scoring and we really weren't troubling their keeper at all. I think Newcastle had an easy game, the stats might not suggest that, but they had us pegged from the start, it was ultimately predictable. The only player they had a really hard time against was Reece James. 

Edited January 19, 20206 yr by Slojo

7 minutes ago, Slojo said:

I disagree, I think we could've played that for about 10 hours and still wouldn't have scored. We never looked like scoring and we really weren't troubling their keeper at all. I think Newcastle had an easy game, the stats might not suggest that, but they had us pegged from the start, it was ultimately predictable. The only player they had a really hard time against was Reece James. 

Completely agree with this. We could still be playing now and the only way we score is a pen. We were never getting past the Newcastle black and white wall because our attack was so inept and kept making the wrong choice.

Sure Kepa should have us a point. But really all he should have done is cost us a clean sheet because Mount (twice), Kante, Willian and tammy were all guilty of picking the wrong option. We never picked the right one and I doubt we would have by now had we still been playing.

1 minute ago, axman2526 said:

Completely agree with this. We could still be playing now and the only way we score is a pen. We were never getting past the Newcastle black and white wall because our attack was so inept and kept making the wrong choice.

Sure Kepa should have us a point. But really all he should have done is cost us a clean sheet because Mount (twice), Kante, Willian and tammy were all guilty of picking the wrong option. We never picked the right one and I doubt we would have by now had we still been playing.

It was the same all the time, CB's sideways passing, passing it to the full back, then the winger, then back to the full back, then back to the CB to the other full back etc. Then whenever it went to Jorginho, he was isolated, nobody free for him to pass forward to, every one of them high up the pitch all marked, Newcastle have had harder Cup games than that, it was so poor. Ross came on and we became less predictable, you could see a chain off attack starting in the middle and Newcastle finally had some work to do, but too little too late. 

Lampard f**ked this up by starting the same pivot that hasn't worked all season, I've been confidently saying this in the match day threads before it even kicks off and unfortunately, I'm yet to be proved wrong, I have to watch the predictable performance over and over again, I'm absolutely gutted.  

We are not hard to scout or set up against, let's us have all the possession and we generally dont create alot. We wasn't playing well last year but we had Hazard.

Daylight robbery,mugged,oh well.....UP THE CHELS !

I just can't understand Frank's reaction to a question Why didn't he try 2 strikers at the end of the game. WTF was so outstanding from Kante yesterday, really?

“In that case it would have meant bringing off maybe N’Golo Kante, who was outstanding all game Jorginho, who is at the base of our midfield and you have to be careful with their counter-attack.”

24 minutes ago, mojo said:

I just can't understand Frank's reaction to a question Why didn't he try 2 strikers at the end of the game. WTF was so outstanding from Kante yesterday, really?

“In that case it would have meant bringing off maybe N’Golo Kante, who was outstanding all game Jorginho, who is at the base of our midfield and you have to be careful with their counter-attack.”

For f**k sake... 

2 hours ago, Argo said:

Point is there was still enough chances that we kept making bad decisions on, we got into positions to score.

As much as it wasn't the best performance in the world, that ends up a Newcastle win 1 time in 50.

We've suffered from this kind of performance many times this season. It's too common to be a fluke or freak result 

1 minute ago, KonaKai Blue said:

We've suffered from this kind of performance many times this season. It's too common to be a fluke or freak result 

Type of inconsistency happens when you play such a young inexperienced team. Something people said they would gladly put up with ...

But nah. Buy a Tammy replacement buy a mount replacement buy buy buy

Edited January 19, 20206 yr by Stim

7 minutes ago, Stim said:

Type of inconsistency happens when you play such a young inexperienced team. Something people said they would gladly put up with ...

But nah. Buy a Tammy replacement buy a mount replacement buy buy buy

The thing is I don't think it's the youngsters who are causing it, they've been really good. We do need alternatives though, Michy is obviously not good enough and we need someone who can rotate with Tammy, and we definitely need a new attacker, preferably someone to rotate with on the RW. 

17 minutes ago, Stim said:

Type of inconsistency happens when you play such a young inexperienced team. Something people said they would gladly put up with ...

But nah. Buy a Tammy replacement buy a mount replacement buy buy buy

I have heard a few moans on Mount not being good enough or over-hyped but I think on the whole, the majority of us knew this was how it would be this season and are largely accepting of the inconsistent form. I was quite scathing in the player ratings thread and I thinks that's fair enough. The youngsters have been getting plenty of plaudits this season when things have gone well so I think they have to expect the flip side. Don't think too many are suggesting we discard them after a few bad performances but we do need more options when they are struggling. In Mounts case we already have Barkley and hopefully will have RLC again at some point but when Tammy has an off day, we DO need another DECENT striker. Not to replace him but as an option and rotate.

56 minutes ago, mojo said:

I just can't understand Frank's reaction to a question Why didn't he try 2 strikers at the end of the game. WTF was so outstanding from Kante yesterday, really?

“In that case it would have meant bringing off maybe N’Golo Kante, who was outstanding all game Jorginho, who is at the base of our midfield and you have to be careful with their counter-attack.”

 

32 minutes ago, Slojo said:

For f**k sake... 

Yup was my reaction too. Smart man. Dumb words and it did not really keep us protected did it?

1 hour ago, mojo said:

I just can't understand Frank's reaction to a question Why didn't he try 2 strikers at the end of the game. WTF was so outstanding from Kante yesterday, really?

“In that case it would have meant bringing off maybe N’Golo Kante, who was outstanding all game Jorginho, who is at the base of our midfield and you have to be careful with their counter-attack.”

I can't believe he said Kante was outstanding yesterday. I guess the problem is with lampard then and not Kate because all Kante is doing is following his managers orders

49 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

We've suffered from this kind of performance many times this season. It's too common to be a fluke or freak result 

Not like this. West Ham, Southampton and Everton created good chances and had a good game tactically.

Newcastle ventured into our third I think about three times over 90 minutes.