20 hours ago, Sheva said:

I honestly think his attitude is blown way out of proportion, he's no different to most modern footballers. He's the classic case of a english footballer who's been targeted by the scummy media to paint a bad rep of. 

 

 

Media has nothing to do with it.

Everybody dislikes him based on what they’ve seen in matches… Being greedy not squaring the ball like 5 times, not tracking back, generally not being arsed. He never looks like he’s putting in 100% effort apart from the Man City games.

I saw somebody made the motivation issue, it’s not an excuse really. He’s one of our most experienced players he should have seen this as a big responsibility to lead the team and show the young players what it takes to win games. He hasn’t done any of that.

13 hours ago, Richard P said:

Bogarde for me.  4 starts and 8 sub apps I think, but contracts work both ways. He has said since retirement that no other club would pay the wages he was on and he was looking after himself. 5 year contract back in 2000 on 50k a week was very good money.

Approx 10 million in wages. Training with the kids, being sent to Coventry, didn’t weaken his resolve. Hardly kicked a ball in anger in five years with us, and never signed for another club afterwards. Not a bad retirement plan.

He went into management. It must have been ethically difficult ,for him to turn on the thumbscrews in order to sell on unwanted players given his past behaviour.

52 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

Media has nothing to do with it.

Everybody dislikes him based on what they’ve seen in matches… Being greedy not squaring the ball like 5 times, not tracking back, generally not being arsed. He never looks like he’s putting in 100% effort apart from the Man City games.

I saw somebody made the motivation issue, it’s not an excuse really. He’s one of our most experienced players he should have seen this as a big responsibility to lead the team and show the young players what it takes to win games. He hasn’t done any of that.

The issue is magnified by those rare occasions when he does turn it on. 

45 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

Media has nothing to do with it.

Everybody dislikes him based on what they’ve seen in matches… Being greedy not squaring the ball like 5 times, not tracking back, generally not being arsed. He never looks like he’s putting in 100% effort apart from the Man City games.

I saw somebody made the motivation issue, it’s not an excuse really. He’s one of our most experienced players he should have seen this as a big responsibility to lead the team and show the young players what it takes to win games. He hasn’t done any of that.

I dont dislike him, I think he's been better than Noni and Mudryk but I dont dislike those either.

Maybe he's feeling the pressure? He's always been a player that's hot and cold in form and when things go well for him he looks a world beater and when things don't he stinks out the place. That's nothing new and I personally don't believe its to do with attitude as it strikes me a player who knows he's not liked here and he's making bad decisions because he's under pressure. Does his attitude stink in training? Is he bad egg around the club? Where are those stories? I don't think I've ever seen that from him when it comes to his past clubs. Happy to be shown otherwise. He's always been quiet on the pitch and off it as well and he's kept himself to himself, we knew that signing him and we also gave him that 300k a week.

He has won us games by the way and there's been on many occasions where his individual ability has won us decisions that change games but our team as a whole has been widly inconsistent. I could have told you that he's not the type of player that leads the team before he signed and the club probably knew that as well.

If he leaves next season I won't be bothered at all but if he stays I'll get behind him.

1 hour ago, dansubrosa said:

Media has nothing to do with it.

Everybody dislikes him based on what they’ve seen in matches… Being greedy not squaring the ball like 5 times, not tracking back, generally not being arsed. He never looks like he’s putting in 100% effort apart from the Man City games.

I saw somebody made the motivation issue, it’s not an excuse really. He’s one of our most experienced players he should have seen this as a big responsibility to lead the team and show the young players what it takes to win games. He hasn’t done any of that.

🤣🤣🤣 Is this the same media that hounded him for years ??

He buys a house or goes supermarket its front page news. Another player does it they are looking after their mom.

Most of Raheems hate comes from the sh*te rags in this country. 

21 hours ago, Sheva said:

I honestly think his attitude is blown way out of proportion, he's no different to most modern footballers. He's the classic case of a english footballer who's been targeted by the scummy media to paint a bad rep of. 

 

 

100% there as a time when he could leave his house without a sh*t rag outside looking for a front page. Majority of the hate towards him comes from those same sh*t rag.

1 hour ago, El regreso said:

🤣🤣🤣 Is this the same media that hounded him for years ??

He buys a house or goes supermarket its front page news. Another player does it they are looking after their mom.

Most of Raheems hate comes from the sh*te rags in this country. 

The sh*te rags don't make him unable to take a man on for the fifth game in a row, or stop him from passing the ball to a team mate for an open net...

Don’t ‘hate’ him but basically he’s crap for over £300,000 per week. How can anyone defend that?

1 hour ago, Kev56 said:

Don’t ‘hate’ him but basically he’s crap for over £300,000 per week. How can anyone defend that?

Torres was pants for most of his time here for over 300k a week and we got behind him. He was also playing in a much better team than Sterling is now.

Im not defending his form because that's poor but he doesn't have a bad attitude in my opinion which is what im defending, same with Torres and he loved a sulk also.

 

 

8 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

The sh*te rags don't make him unable to take a man on for the fifth game in a row, or stop him from passing the ball to a team mate for an open net...

I am not defending his selfishness when he should have pass for an easy tap in or his inconsistency but the disrespect he gets compared to others who are just as inconsistent is over the top.

The majority of his dislike comes from the sh*t rags. Name another player who has had the  amount of negative stories about him in the rags?

Whether we like to admit it or not these stories play a part In how he’s viewed. 

12 hours ago, El regreso said:

 

I am not defending his selfishness when he should have pass for an easy tap in or his inconsistency but the disrespect he gets compared to others who are just as inconsistent is over the top.

The majority of his dislike comes from the sh*t rags. Name another player who has had the  amount of negative stories about him in the rags?

Whether we like to admit it or not these stories play a part In how he’s viewed. 

I think he's a decent person off the field. I think he's a role model for how sportsmen should behave. 

I also think he's a sh*te footballer and massively overrated by the sports media. 

One of the reasons he is even here is because of the rags. They build him up constantly and so he's viewed as a star player that could be central to a club like ours, instead of the average player he has always been who is just very good positionally. 

I don't think Haaland is the reason City won the treble. I think selling Sterling is the difference for them. 

Even yesterday there were comments about "Sterling not selected" as if he should even be part of the conversation. 

So your point is true, the rags have caused me to hate him. But it's not because of the stories where they try to bring him down, but because of the stories where they build him up. 

Edited March 16, 20242 yr by bisright1

14 hours ago, El regreso said:

 

I am not defending his selfishness when he should have pass for an easy tap in or his inconsistency but the disrespect he gets compared to others who are just as inconsistent is over the top.

The majority of his dislike comes from the sh*t rags. Name another player who has had the  amount of negative stories about him in the rags?

Whether we like to admit it or not these stories play a part In how he’s viewed. 

The media have overrated Sterling, even now pundits and media alike won't call out his lackluster performances when he's the highest-paid player and most experienced. 

The pundits go on about him being our best player, which is absolutely not true.

Sterling is way too inconsistent and selfish in his play. I would argue he is worse now in those areas than he ever has been.

We keep getting told we have a billion pound squad, which isn't true if you take into account the current squad, what inflates that is the players like Aubameyang, Sterling, Koulibaly, Cucurella etc that we bought a few years back.

We have been able to offload quite a few but that doesn't change the media & pundit narratives towards our young squad. Sterling is definitely a player we need to move on.

2 hours ago, bisright1 said:

I think he's a decent person off the field. I think he's a role model for how sportsmen should behave. 

I also think he's a sh*te footballer and massively overrated by the sports media. 

One of the reasons he is even here is because of the rags. They build him up constantly and so he's viewed as a star player that could be central to a club like ours, instead of the average player he has always been who is just very good positionally. 

I don't think Haaland is the reason City won the treble. I think selling Sterling is the difference for them. 

Even yesterday there were comments about "Sterling not selected" as if he should even be part of the conversation. 

So your point is true, the rags have caused me to hate him. But it's not because of the stories where they try to bring him down, but because of the stories where they build him up. 

I get your point but not a single one of his managers care about how the media potray his ability, he's getting picked on merit throughout his career and rightly so and now he's not getting picked on merit by Southgate.

No manager worth their salt is looking to see how the media rates a player. As fans we can moan as much as we want but the managers see the players week in week out and know a heck of alot more than we do when it comes to picking a player.

Edited March 16, 20242 yr by Sheva

Ronay seems to disagree with the general consensus:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/16/raheem-sterlings-england-journey-may-be-ending-but-he-delivered-thrilling-ride

2 hours ago, Sheva said:

I get your point but not a single one of his managers care about how the media potray his ability, he's getting picked on merit throughout his career and rightly so and now he's not getting picked on merit by Southgate.

No manager worth their salt is looking to see how the media rates a player. As fans we can moan as much as we want but the managers see the players week in week out and know a heck of alot more than we do when it comes to picking a player.

And I'll never understand it. 

Liverpool and City both improved after he left. England are better without him. And we play better when he's on the bench. 

Don’t ‘hate’ him but basically he’s crap for over £300,000 per week. How can anyone defend that?

He really is crap, end of. The match going fans see it, he frustrates nearly everyone, similar to certain people defending the arsehole that is Lukaku. 

On 15/03/2024 at 09:34, Sheva said:

I dont dislike him, I think he's been better than Noni and Mudryk but I dont dislike those either.

Maybe he's feeling the pressure? He's always been a player that's hot and cold in form and when things go well for him he looks a world beater and when things don't he stinks out the place. That's nothing new and I personally don't believe its to do with attitude as it strikes me a player who knows he's not liked here and he's making bad decisions because he's under pressure. Does his attitude stink in training? Is he bad egg around the club? Where are those stories? I don't think I've ever seen that from him when it comes to his past clubs. Happy to be shown otherwise. He's always been quiet on the pitch and off it as well and he's kept himself to himself, we knew that signing him and we also gave him that 300k a week.

He has won us games by the way and there's been on many occasions where his individual ability has won us decisions that change games but our team as a whole has been widly inconsistent. I could have told you that he's not the type of player that leads the team before he signed and the club probably knew that as well.

If he leaves next season I won't be bothered at all but if he stays I'll get behind him.

Not sure how you think he has a good attitude when he bottles out of challenges or can't be arsed to chase back and cover? And that happens a lot with Sterling. 

On 13/03/2024 at 12:28, Valerie said:

Hate a football player who hasn't hurt anyone, as far as I know? Wow, how deep must your feelings run when it's someone like Putin, to name just one!

 

I have no ties to that regime and Putin does not influence my life, nor my feelings or anything that has to do with my daily existence. Whereas Sterling plays for the club I love and he is dog sh*te and gets on my nerves everytime I see him on the pitch.

His poor penalty is not a surprise. You look at those 3 examples this season when clean on goal and has a team mate to pass for a tap in but instead shoots at the keeper.

Poor decision making, not getting his head up, or just selfish play. Take your pick.

On 15/03/2024 at 19:08, El regreso said:

 

I am not defending his selfishness when he should have pass for an easy tap in or his inconsistency but the disrespect he gets compared to others who are just as inconsistent is over the top.

The majority of his dislike comes from the sh*t rags. Name another player who has had the  amount of negative stories about him in the rags?

Whether we like to admit it or not these stories play a part In how he’s viewed. 

That’s not where his ‘hate’ comes from, most of the people in the UK don’t read newspapers. The ‘hate’ comes from performances like today that we endure week in week out. Stealing a living. 

Absolute stinker of a performance. Madueke replaces him (45 minutes late!) and scores a worldie.

If there was ever a game that justified all the criticism towards Sterling this was it. Even with an assist that was a 2/10 performance, horrendous performance. 

No more Sterling for the rest of the season please, ship him off to Saudi at the end of the season. 

Sterling out, out, out.