Just now, TheCeleryKing said:

Well, that first half was pretty fcucking dull.  Nothing happening for England.  Take Galagher off and put Palmer on.

I would take Foden off and put on Gordon surely Palmer would be for Saka.

Just now, strider6004 said:

I would take Foden off and put on Gordon surely Palmer would be for Saka.

Really? Foden is the only player out there playing. We need MORE creativity. Palmer is the answer.

Slovenia and Denmark were in Northern Ireland's qualifying group. I saw them both in Belfast. Northern Ireland beat Denmark 2-0 comfortably and lost one nil to Slovenia against the run of play. They have some technically competent players and were well drilled but I can't understand how England aren't pulling them apart.  

3 minutes ago, strider6004 said:

I would take Foden off and put on Gordon surely Palmer would be for Saka.

I would take Gallagher off. Move Bellingham into midfield, Foden behind the striker, Gordon on the wing. Take Saka off too and put Palmer in there.

Bit of an insult to the Irish having Declan 'up the RA' Rice and a bloke called Gallagher as our midfield two. Particularly when they brayed along just as gormlessly to the inbred tribute dirge as the rest of the team.

Also I agree with Sunak, we'd have much more urgency in our performance had these kids done (or were doing in Mainoo's case I suppose) national service.

Just now, Scott Harris said:

I would take Gallagher off. Move Bellingham into midfield, Foden behind the striker, Gordon on the wing. Take Saka off too and put Palmer in there.

The only time I saw Saka run at them was because Gallagher's run takes a defender away from him. 

4 minutes ago, strider6004 said:

I would take Foden off and put on Gordon surely Palmer would be for Saka.

I'd get Gordon and Palmer on too apart from anything else they need some game time in the tournament, 

Kane is all over the place apart from defensive corners I do not see why he has to drift back.

11 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

I really don't understand the purpose of co-commentators. Lee Dixon:

"You don't realise its hard playing against 442. And Slovenia have got some good players"

Of course they're good players, its an international team, you feeble minded, Ian Wright groupie, cretinous tw@t.

Pundits are required to talk too much anyway.

I remember the olden days when we didn't have pundits talking sh*te.

I'm pretty sure Kenneth Wolstanholme wasn't analysing the sh*t out of the world cup final in '66

This is just rubbish. It's so boring, predictable and bereft of ideas.

Its easy for things to wrong I know  but Southgate has turned bad management into an artform. 

We must make big changes .

5 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

Bit of an insult to the Irish having Declan 'up the RA' Rice and a bloke called Gallagher as our midfield two. Particularly when they brayed along just as gormlessly to the inbred tribute dirge as the rest of the team.

Also I agree with Sunak, we'd have much more urgency in our performance had these kids done (or were doing in Mainoo's case I suppose) national service.

So some marching drills and belly crawling under barbed wire is what's needed ? 😜

 

3 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Pundits are required to talk too much anyway.

I remember the olden days when we didn't have pundits talking sh*te.

I'm pretty sure Kenneth Wolstanholme wasn't analysing the sh*t out of the world cup final in '66

I'm convinced that the pundits are paid by the word. As you say, back in the day the pundits didn't talk sh*te and only spoke when really necessary. 

As for the game, the title of one of Marvin Gaye's finest songs sums it up.

Just now, The Rising Sun said:

So some marching drills and belly crawling under barbed wire is what's needed ? 😜

 

I always assumed his conception of national service was more along the lines of handing out canapés at Conservative Party fundraising events.

Just now, Boyne said:

I'm convinced that the pundits are paid by the word. As you say, back in the day the pundits didn't talk sh*te and only spoke when really necessary. 

As for the game, the title of one of Marvin Gaye's finest songs sums it up.

Don't tell me, I'll get the song eventually but I've got " heard it through the grapevine" stuck on repeat in my head!

Was always gonna be Gallagher off first.

Like I said unless it went perfectly he’d be the fall guy.

Hiding to nothing.

England showed up for 2 minutes just now

I just want to vomit.

Not watching the game (or listening).

Have we had any shots on target yet ?

 

21 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

I think England will win comfortably in the end, but we are playing dull uninspiring, boring football. It's gotta improve surely ? 

This game was the chance to give some players a rest and use the squad. 

It'll be criminal if Palmer doesn't get on, and I don't mean with a few minutes either.

 

This.

Someone is going to be needed at short notice. Someone will get injured, stack up cards, something will happen and then we will through in someone whop hasn't touched a ball and expect them to be the difference maker when it matters. This is not club football, every player on the bench should have exactly the same impact as anyone in the starting 11. We are already qualified ffs. 

1 minute ago, Andy North said:

I just want to vomit.

Just go for it Andy, it'll a) be more satisfying and b) you wont miss anything anyway

Watching on RTE here and Ronnie Whelan is commentating, he is delighted Gallagher didn’t do a great deal. That answered the TAA question he says. 

The BBC are on form for a change ... 

this is a bit better - might be a goal coming

@Boyne Have you tried any of the independent English whisk(e)ys which have been popping up recently? Maybe if I were to drink a somewhat more patriotic/southern dra(h)m while watching England we'd do better.