4 minutes ago, Caps_Lock_King said:

Manchester city wanted maresca back to hold Peps cigar, no way is Pep leaving

Thought it was just a smoke screen to get our city obsessed owners to keep the inept one. Even Pep doesn’t play boring Pep ball anymore.

14 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

f**ked hell, a few unattributable pieces from the usual suspects and everyone is hating Maresca.

Why is everyone falling for this ?

Why don't the club actually say what happened?? All a diversion from the atrocious Ownership and it's ridiculous decision making

Yeah, why can't the Eghbali come out and speak to us instead of going through certain mouthpieces? If it's true, then let Maresca have his say and we'll make our own minds up. Damage control, PR, sh*te!

I know it’s not popular opinion here but the manager isn’t the problem under maresca we bossed top teams in the world the style of play is there what’s not is the experience in the squad and an ownership that dictate who plays and comes on, the sad reality we will learn is we over performed under him. You can see form the players messages they clearly liked him and rated him as a coach

I don’t think a lot of fans truly appreciate

HOW f**kED WE ARE!!!!!!

There isn’t a single World class manager who would come within 100 miles of us. We will never attract an elite manager again as long as these clowns are making the decisions NEVER.

All we will get are managers looking for the next setup after us.

How I miss Marina and co now!!

20 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

f**ked hell, a few unattributable pieces from the usual suspects and everyone is hating Maresca.

Why is everyone falling for this ?

Why don't the club actually say what happened?? All a diversion from the atrocious Ownership and it's ridiculous decision making

Tale as old as time. By next week, Rosenior will havea Chelsea Magazine spread and an interview about the impact he wants to make at the club etc to quell all the frustrated fans (Same as Maresca and everyone before him), we will have a new manager bump for a good number of games, fans will love him or at least be okay with him and then we will be back to square one until the club drops form again and the cycle repeats itself.

This club is a bad joke. Oh for the Abramovich era, we had it good then.

6 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

Tale as old as time. By next week, Rosenior will havea Chelsea Magazine spread and an interview about the impact he wants to make at the club etc to quell all the frustrated fans (Same as Maresca and everyone before him), we will have a new manager bump for a good number of games, fans will love him or at least be okay with him and then we will be back to square one until the club drops form again and the cycle repeats itself.

There will be no new manager bump with this guy I honestly don’t see him getting a single win.

You think players like James, Cole, Enzo , Cucu etc will actually take this guy seriously?

At least Maresca had a decent playing career and was a £land version of Pep.

Liam has nothing going for him zero.

Edited January 1Jan 1 by El regreso

HAPPY NEW YEAR to All Posters !!

These are screenshots from aunty beeb coverage of his resignation

Seems as though are hunches were correct the owners do want a say on game day line ups , subs etc can’t blame Maresca for walking. Still I for one am not sorry to see him depart, however it does appear to be an ‘out of the 🍳 into the 🔥’ situation currently.

Never a dull moment following the Mighty Blues.

So if he hadn't talked to other clubs and tried to hold the board hostage, he would still be manager ??

Really?? f**king scumbag owners, just tell us the truth .

Will only get a manager who will say yes to everything asked by the owners. Will probably be Rosenior as the next candidate

Whoever it is they’ll get my backing. Rosenior is unlikely to get the fans looking forward to our games but from what I’ve seen of Strasbourg this season (only 3 games) I don’t think he plays anywhere close to the way Maresca did. The mad inversions weren’t happening for instance. He played a more traditional 4-2-3-1 with full backs staying wide.

He also played players in their natural position.

I genuinely believe our players heads were done in from too much tactical responsibility. The best football is often the simplest so I’m confident whoever gets the job will have a tactical system that’s much easier to carry out.

Chillwell was told he didn’t fit our system yet he does at Strasbourg? Probably because he struggles in centre midfield 😀 and Rosenior doesn’t demand he plays there.

Edited January 1Jan 1 by 19seventyone

Some absolutely damning stuff coming out regarding ownership/SD’s input, it’s funny how Palmer was continuously subbed off, and we naturally blame Maresca, when that was essentially coming from the top. This principle also proves without doubt Josh is here PURELY for re-sale as a homegrown player, and not someone who is in future plans at the club, which is sad.

30 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

Tale as old as time. By next week, Rosenior will havea Chelsea Magazine spread and an interview about the impact he wants to make at the club etc to quell all the frustrated fans (Same as Maresca and everyone before him), we will have a new manager bump for a good number of games, fans will love him or at least be okay with him and then we will be back to square one until the club drops form again and the cycle repeats itself.

Don't hold your breath for the bump. This guy got, and currently is, 7th in Ligue 1 which is comparable to our League One as well

24 minutes ago, El regreso said:

There will be no new manager bump with this guy I honestly don’t see him getting a single win.

You think players like James, Cole, Enzo , Cucu etc will actually take this guy seriously?

At least Maresca had a decent playing career and was a £land version of Pep.

Liam has nothing going for him zero.

His dad had a better playing career and that was bang average

14 minutes ago, Term_X said:

Some absolutely damning stuff coming out regarding ownership/SD’s input, it’s funny how Palmer was continuously subbed off, and we naturally blame Maresca, when that was essentially coming from the top. This principle also proves without doubt Josh is here PURELY for re-sale as a homegrown player, and not someone who is in future plans at the club, which is sad.

I assume you saw the same from Ben Jacobs:

"Enzo Maresca clashed with Chelsea over team selection, he didnt want decisions on line-ups or substitutions taken out of his hands. Chelsea insist their model hasnt changed and that any input on rotation came only from the medical staff, focused on player workload. Maresca believed the problems went deeper, he felt pressure from above to rotate and boost the value of several young players."

While Maresca may have had some paranoia it aligns with a lot of suspicions on here.

1 hour ago, JM7 said:

I actually back the club to dictate to the manager regarding players minutes and I injures. Managers are selfish and will kill players for their own benefit without regarding to the player - see Kante under Sarri.

31 minutes ago, General said:

HAPPY NEW YEAR to All Posters !!

These are screenshots from aunty beeb coverage of his resignation

Seems as though are hunches were correct the owners do want a say on game day line ups , subs etc can’t blame Maresca for walking. Still I for one am not sorry to see him depart, however it does appear to be an ‘out of the 🍳 into the 🔥’ situation currently.

Never a dull moment following the Mighty Blues.

Doesn’t seem to me it’s the owners influencing or picking the team from that. More the medical department advising minutes for injured players which is understandable. Maybe overstepping the mark or maybe Enzos using it as an excuse for the recent bad results. It would be more understandable if the medical team was forcing him to put right backs in midfield or not playing Estevao or Santos.

2 minutes ago, forbzy said:

I assume you saw the same from Ben Jacobs:

"Enzo Maresca clashed with Chelsea over team selection, he didnt want decisions on line-ups or substitutions taken out of his hands. Chelsea insist their model hasnt changed and that any input on rotation came only from the medical staff, focused on player workload. Maresca believed the problems went deeper, he felt pressure from above to rotate and boost the value of several young players."

While Maresca may have had some paranoia it aligns with a lot of suspicions on here.

I struggle to see how anyone can think this was all down to Maresca — but I suppose that’s wishful thinking. It’s comforting to believe there’s an easy fix, rather than acknowledging a much deeper problem.

I genuinely can’t imagine a scenario where these owners bring in a huge number of young players without promising them — and their agents (often the same agents…) — meaningful game time for development and valuation.

The medical side is more nuanced and honestly a bit controversial. People complain when there’s too much medical influence, and they complain just as loudly when there’s too little. Personally, I fully understand the caution around Cole — groin injuries are notorious for tricking you into thinking they’re gone, and the last thing you want is a recurrence that sets him back months.

17 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

Don't hold your breath for the bump. This guy got, and currently is, 7th in Ligue 1 which is comparable to our League One as well

Come on now that’s very harsh. If you were talking about the Scottish Premier then I’d agree but the French league is levels above that sh*t. There are some good teams with good players in France. Strasbourg seem to be struggling to cope with added European games which happens to almost every club who don’t normally play in European competitions.

I don’t know enough to know whether he’s any good. I hope he doesn’t get the job based on he’s not proven at our level but if he does he has to be given a chance by the support and more importantly the players.

One thing is clear though, with City flirting with him, he did NOT want to manage that game, it was, and still is, lining up to rival Sarri’s 6-0 defeat.

Le Bris worth a shout? He can bring Mukiele with him too.

16 minutes ago, acaeus said:

I struggle to see how anyone can think this was all down to Maresca — but I suppose that’s wishful thinking. It’s comforting to believe there’s an easy fix, rather than acknowledging a much deeper problem.

I genuinely can’t imagine a scenario where these owners bring in a huge number of young players without promising them — and their agents (often the same agents…) — meaningful game time for development and valuation.

The medical side is more nuanced and honestly a bit controversial. People complain when there’s too much medical influence, and they complain just as loudly when there’s too little. Personally, I fully understand the caution around Cole — groin injuries are notorious for tricking you into thinking they’re gone, and the last thing you want is a recurrence that sets him back months.

Agreed. I have no issues with managing minutes for players as they return from injuries. we have seen some recent success with players like Reece by taking that approach. However, the suggestion is that the control over selection went beyond that. You make a good point about bringing in these players with a promise of minutes. Especially when you consider that the wages are now heavily set up based on incentives. Apart from injury concerns, the manager should have full control over team selection.

13 minutes ago, 19seventyone said:

Come on now that’s very harsh. If you were talking about the Scottish Premier then I’d agree but the French league is levels above that sh*t. There are some good teams with good players in France. Strasbourg seem to be struggling to cope with added European games which happens to almost every club who don’t normally play in European competitions.

I don’t know enough to know whether he’s any good. I hope he doesn’t get the job based on he’s not proven at our level but if he does he has to be given a chance by the support and more importantly the players.

Okay, maybe a little harsh. Mid Championship level.

And with regards your last point about support and buy in from the players, life just doesn't work like that. Everybody pre judges. Everybody has ego. Liam Rosenior had a playing career of 393 league matches and a total of 4 goals, 2 of which were for Bristol City in the second Division. He won the FL trophy with Bristol City. Had a total of 11 international caps at U21 and U20 level. He's going to be coaching the likes of Caicedo, world cup winner Fernandez (yeah well its still a fact) big game assassin Cole Palmer, England's best RB Reece James, England U21 Euro winner Levi Colwill, inevitable Ballon D'or winner, at some point, Estevao. Some of these guys have as their other managers Thomas Tuchel, Ancelotti, Deschamps, Scaloni. Will these players listen and support him when it starts going tits? Not convinced tbh.

1 minute ago, WhiteWall said:

Okay, maybe a little harsh. Mid Championship level.

And with regards your last point about support and buy in from the players, life just doesn't work like that. Everybody pre judges. Everybody has ego. Liam Rosenior had a playing career of 393 league matches and a total of 4 goals, 2 of which were for Bristol City in the second Division. He won the FL trophy with Bristol City. Had a total of 11 international caps at U21 and U20 level. He's going to be coaching the likes of Caicedo, world cup winner Fernandez (yeah well its still a fact) big game assassin Cole Palmer, England's best RB Reece James, England U21 Euro winner Levi Colwill, inevitable Ballon D'or winner, at some point, Estevao. Some of these guys have as their other managers Thomas Tuchel, Ancelotti, Deschamps, Scaloni. Will these players listen and support him when it starts going tits? Not convinced tbh.

i see your point but often the best players don’t make the best managers. Zidane is an exception rather than the rule.

By all accounts, Resenoir has done a good job wherever he has been. Even at Hull, he overachieved but fell just short. I’m not saying that means he deserves the Chelsea job but hopefully shows with the right support, he could be decent.