28 minutes ago, terraloon said:

They are a National League ( non league) club and it’s that league that has suspended them.

The problem is that clubs at NL level will idc come under the control of the Football Regulatory Control the next level down won’t and there are dozens of clubs at that level that are under threat.

The EFL moan like hell about getting a bigger handout from the PL yet the EFL give nothing to the NL its only because the PL contributes significant money to the non league structure.

I saw a stat somewhere that for a club can’t remember which one but when they were in EFL 2 the monies that they got from central funds subsidised the equivalent of 50% of the ticket price every one that attended in a season.

Sadly football outside the PL simply can’t pay its way.

The costs involved at say Morecambe just to pay to run their club are costing on average £30k each week more than they earn. Or what about Yeovil another NL club who have over 140 on their payroll.

They're NL now, they were EFL when the current fiasco developed. An owner with a history of liquidated and bankrupt businesses.

28 minutes ago, dermott said:

They're NL now, they were EFL when the current fiasco developed. An owner with a history of liquidated and bankrupt businesses.

The problem with company law in this country it affords almost immunity to directors. The companies liability is limited hence why its called a Limited Company

In the day the Inland Revenue and or Customs and Excise would work hand in hand to do all they could to get directors with a history of winding up companies to be barred from being appointed to other companies boards but from what I gather that role is near enough exclusively know the domain of Companies House who do little to bar individuals.

We need to be careful because companies can be wound up under what’s called Members Voluntary and again there are different types of administration such as pre packed administration. Similarly apparently not sending in a confirmation statement or accounts on time may not be fact as Companies house often have the required forms but don’t process them on time

The football authorities would be incredibly exposed if they barred someone who may have had issues but none of the regulatory bodies have done anything about.

I wonder why people invest in lower league football they rarely come out of it even close to breaking even and unlike the PL there is little chance of asset growth that is usually unless there is land involved

Edited August 6, 2025Aug 6 by terraloon

2 hours ago, Nibs said:

Have to disagree. Might now always agree with him but Stelling is a decent presenter / pundit. Has raised a sh*t-load for charity and is a whole lot better than majority of presenters / pundits - especially the likes of Carragher and Ferdinand and some of the female ones.

Hes bitter as hell about us, always dumb little digs when he gets the chance.

Plus hes from hartlepool, stupid monkey hanger, they're all so weird.

1 hour ago, terraloon said:

The problem with company law in this country it affords almost immunity to directors. The companies liability is limited hence why its called a Limited Company

In the day the Inland Revenue and or Customs and Excise would work hand in hand to do all they could to get directors with a history of winding up companies to be barred from being appointed to other companies boards but from what I gather that role is near enough exclusively know the domain of Companies House who do little to bar individuals.

We need to be careful because companies can be wound up under what’s called Members Voluntary and again there are different types of administration such as pre packed administration. Similarly apparently not sending in a confirmation statement or accounts on time may not be fact as Companies house often have the required forms but don’t process them on time

The football authorities would be incredibly exposed if they barred someone who may have had issues but none of the regulatory bodies have done anything about.

I wonder why people invest in lower league football they rarely come out of it even close to breaking even and unlike the PL there is little chance of asset growth that is usually unless there is land involved

The whole "fit and proper person test" seems hollow. About the only reason the Reading situation was resolved was because Yongee was convicted of offences in China. Myriad reasons why people invest in lower leagues. Genuine passion, local lad made good, ego, whatever. Some seem to know what they're in for and are prepared to dig in - eg, Andy Holt at Accrington - but most, sadly, don't.

5 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

United spending 200m+ on forwards this summer but Sir Jim said they can't afford to pay the lunch ladies.

How is this possible

8 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

How is this possible

But PSR/FFP is supposed to level things, Utd are proof just how dogsh*t that is.

8 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

How is this possible

Exactly. Their financial situation was made out to be bleak and that they would need to make sales before they buy yet they are some how able to finance Cunha, Mbuemo and now Sesko deal and looking into Baleba... yet not one sale made and they have several players on ridiculous wages still on their books.... seems really suspect.

2 minutes ago, STATS said:

Exactly. Their financial situation was made out to be bleak and that they would need to make sales before they buy yet they are some how able to finance Cunha, Mbuemo and now Sesko deal and looking into Baleba... yet not one sale made and they have several players on ridiculous wages still on their books.... seems really suspect.

Their issue was far more to do with the availability of cash as opposed to PSR/FFP issues . They still generate over £600m but it’s their debt and obligations over the 25/26 is their problem. Scruffy Jim injected cash which will mean that over a 3 year cycle for PSR can loss up to £105 million

Interestingly they have in the last month entered into a new agreement with the bank of America who have taken significant charge over Man Utd’s assets so may well be able to increase their borrowings

1 minute ago, terraloon said:

Their issue was far more to do with the availability of cash as opposed to PSR/FFP issues . They still generate over £600m but it’s their debt and obligations over the 25/26 is their problem. Scruffy Jim injected cash which will mean that over a 3 year cycle for PSR can loss up to £105 million

Interestingly they have in the last month entered into a new agreement with the bank of America who have taken significant charge over Man Utd’s assets so may well be able to increase their borrowings

Thanks for clarifying. Still makes a joke of FFP. Why don't other teams do the same thing then with hope they get into UCL footy next season to make more money. FFP is a joke.

Villa can’t spend without selling & Newcastle can’t compete against a club that finished 16th despite qualifying for the Champions League.

Arsenal fans freaking out again.

Noni missed pen.

Gyokeres 4 touches all game.

Can’t create open play chances.

Kepa short arms.

Long may it continue.

3 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Arsenal fans freaking out again.

Noni missed pen.

Gyokeres 4 touches all game.

Can’t create open play chances.

Kepa short arms.

Long may it continue.

Failed Brighton striker

6 hours ago, STATS said:

Thanks for clarifying. Still makes a joke of FFP. Why don't other teams do the same thing then with hope they get into UCL footy next season to make more money. FFP is a joke.

We predicted this sort of thing would happen back in 2009 when Platini first started his bluster about it. 16 years later there's no evidence it even works to make football clubs more sustainable. The rules were designed to preserve the present order and to ensure that "doing a Chelsea" would never happen again. The rule change to "squad cost ratio" will be even more favourable to teams like Manchester United because they are such revenue behemoths. To be absolutely fair, they did "earn" it to an extent by being successful on the pitch in yesteryear.

As for why other teams don't do the same thing, it's about risk vs reward. A Newcastle or Villa could spend more money with the assumption of CL football but with 8 clubs vying for 4-5 CL places, and the drop-off in revenue being so massive if you miss out, it could lead to sporting obliteration if a club missed the target. We have already seen this in La Liga with Barcelona, who despite their recent domestic success and increased revenue are still so crippled by their league's FFP restrictions they cannot register players. Barcelona have the funds, reputation and means (La Masia) to just manage to cope, but clubs a tier below like Newcastle or Villa have no hope.

United, Arsenal, Pool, City all have strengthened significantly on paper.

Tight race this year. The first that can put it all together will win the PL. I hope that's us

Arsenal won't amount to anything. Their mentality isn't what's required to go the distance it all stems from their utterly pathetic manager.

2 hours ago, BordeauxBlue said:

Arsenal won't amount to anything. Their mentality isn't what's required to go the distance it all stems from their utterly pathetic manager.

Definitely, they are frauds. The flukiest team's I've ever watched tbh but on paper they have something there to make a proper go

Spurs narrowly beaten by Bayern 4-0 😂

17 hours ago, OneTommyLangley said:

Spurs narrowly beaten by Bayern 4-0 😂

Could’ve been 6 or 7-0

17 hours ago, OneTommyLangley said:

Spurs narrowly beaten by Bayern 4-0 😂

And they have to play PSG in the Super Cup soon..................!

11 hours ago, Nibs said:

And they have to play PSG in the Super Cup soon..................!

And after that CWC humiliation, they are going to be fired up to beat a team in England from London 😁

Will leave this here with the feeling that I will quote myself in a couple of years.

On United - I see their fans rubbing it in everyone's face saying "You said we would not be able to spend, look how we buy players for fun, never underestimate United you fools".

Well, nobody said the can't spend any money. They can't spend how much they want, even 1B, the problem is that they will have to balance that at some point.

They spend big this summer (as they do now), but also balance it - perfect scenario.

They spend big this summer, do not balance it, but get back to UCL football - that is also a good scenario.

But. And now comes the problem for them. If they spend big now, their players flop and do not balance any of it and also are out of CL football, then they are cooked.

If they also miss CL football for consecutive seasons, then good luck to them because they will need a lot if they want to buy shiny new toys.

What they are doing this summer is basically gambling on this season to be a successful one. They are putting all their eggs into one basket. Get top four and win the gamble and invest even more next summer, without having to sell a lot, or fail to get CL football this season and start selling some big names next summer.

My take is (and it was the initial thought when I started to write this post) that in two years Cunha and Mbeumo will be hated more than Sancho is at the moment by the United fan base.

This is their two power moves that they keep bragging about on every singe social media app and make them look like these world class players. But I just can't see it with them. I simply don't.

Both will be 28 in a couple of seasons and both under long contracts still. The United fan base will call them all the names under the sun, saying they are stealing a living at the club and won't find better contracts anywhere else, that being the reason they can't get rid of them. Mark my words.

Crystanbul again today hopefully🤞

Edited August 10, 2025Aug 10 by OneTommyLangley

This Ekitike will be a big problem.

So that's Guehi out for the first half of the season