30 minutes ago, BolaBall said:

That's a lie. He only had 3 full seasons with Chelsea so far. Previous one definitely poor, 2nd one is pretty good but not in world class cat. Only the first one that would be just enough to be classified as world class.

And what do you mean 'attracted' to neto? in what way?

Last season he scored 10 PL goals, for reference this would be double Neto's highest ever PL goal tally in a single season (8th season). If 10 goals for Palmer is 'poor', then 5 goals for Neto is absolutely abysmal. Thank you for proving my point.

By attracted i mean there must be some form of arousal to defend someone so painfully average. Hope this clears up any confusion.

Doesnt offer enough end product. I dont really have an issue with him as he has survived the summer cull and the manager obviously see's something in his game. Im genuinely interested to see what Alonso can do.

IMO Neto is a far less effective Willian. Dare I say it, but I'd much rather have kept George, who on here wasnt good enough, but had more redeeming qualities than Neto and would have saved us spending on Gittens, Garnacho and Neto (circa 150 million).

Always do this, but probably good to compare how both George and Pedro handle the season and finish with the better stats. Put George in my Fantasy team ahead of Neto so that's my take on it.

It's also why Im keen for Alonso to work some magic with the squad he has (if possible) and be given 18 months to sort out the mess he has inherited from the past 3 seasons.

Madueke hasnt kicked on since moving to Arsenal, didnt really impress at the world cup, glad he's no longer here, think I'll eventually say the same about Neto, but hope he can up his game while he's here, he's probably a demon on the five a side kick abouts.

3 hours ago, All Barco no bite said:

Is this the Palmer thread? Palmer has multiple world class seasons to fall back on if he has a quiet game, i genuinely can't remember a single game where Neto was the stand out player in a Chelsea shirt. Anywho, Palmer actually manager 2 shots on target in the game, Neto managed a grand total of zero. He lost the ball less, which is impressive seeing as he played 20 minutes longer than Neto (10 times v 14 times). Carried the ball further. Even on his bad day, he's still head and shoulders above Netonyahu.

Look, its okay to be attracted to Neto, that won't make him a good player though. Just lock yourself in a dark room and whisper sweet nothings to your Neto shrine, one day the voice in your head may reply.

Wow, so having two shots on target constitutes having a good game. Fantatic analysis. Let’s praise anyone who takes a shot outside the area and gets it on target as having a good game…

No it is not the Palmer thread but how about you show the same level of criticism to other players who don’t turn up.

So our best player who has had multiple ‘world class’ seasons gets a reprieve because of this. He should be able to live to those standards and perform in big games. Name me one big game Palmer has performed in the league away from home? I dont mean Tottenham btw…

You just any reason you criticise him. Doing so yesterday is just petulant.

Anyway, it doesn’t surprise me coming from someone who thought Garnacho was going to be a top player.

I don’t swing that way but I am assuming you envy is looks or he stole your missus…

Edited Monday at 13:193 days by STATS

1 hour ago, STATS said:

Wow, so having two shots on target constitutes having a good game. Fantatic analysis. Let’s praise anyone who takes a shot outside the area and gets it on target as having a good game…

No it is not the Palmer thread but how about you show the same level of criticism to other players who don’t turn up.

So our best player who has had multiple ‘world class’ seasons gets a reprieve because of this. He should be able to live to those standards and perform in big games. Name me one big game Palmer has performed in the league away from home? I dont mean Tottenham btw…

You just any reason you criticise him. Doing so yesterday is just petulant.

Anyway, it doesn’t surprise me coming from someone who thought Garnacho was going to be a top player.

I don’t swing that way but I am assuming you envy is looks or he stole your missus…

Well apparently having ZERO shots on target constitutes one of the best players on the pitch for us. Just going to ignore the rest of it? Oh i forgot, running in a straight line and losing the ball is all that really matters.

PSG club world cup final. Away from home. 2 goals 1 assist. MOTM. Now show me Lomba's MOTM performance.

Look, of all the players to die on the hill protecting you've picked the funniest one.

Of the 4 PL seasons Garnacho has under his belt, he scored more than Neto's best ever PL total lmao. I'm happy to say Garnacho was ass, you're the one still tugging one out over someone who can't even match his stats as a 19 year old.

"he stole your missus" f**kin hell mate you got me there, not sure how i'll recover from that one. Bet they love that at the mental asylum.

13 minutes ago, All Barco no bite said:

Well apparently having ZERO shots on target constitutes one of the best players on the pitch for us. Just going to ignore the rest of it? Oh i forgot, running in a straight line and losing the ball is all that really matters.

PSG club world cup final. Away from home. 2 goals 1 assist. MOTM. Now show me Lomba's MOTM performance.

Look, of all the players to die on the hill protecting you've picked the funniest one.

Of the 4 PL seasons Garnacho has under his belt, he scored more than Neto's best ever PL total lmao. I'm happy to say Garnacho was ass, you're the one still tugging one out over someone who can't even match his stats as a 19 year old.

"he stole your missus" f**kin hell mate you got me there, not sure how i'll recover from that one. Bet they love that at the mental asylum.

I am not out here stating Neto is world class. We agree Palmer is, however you are saying it is acceptable because Palmer has produced constant world class performances.

In the league, I genuinely don’t remember one game where Palmer has had a top performance against any of the top teams. It should be expected he does more than Neto yesterday.

He played RWB you absolute buffoon. Is it a surprise he had 0 shots on target? He had a good effort that was unlucky not to go in.

Yes I am defending him from imbeciles like you who troll this thread, still behaving like the class clown, and rather than give encouragement, just write nonsense.

Maybe your wife will take you back when you mature a bit. Or maybe she thinks your username reflects your real life ability…

I was hoping he was going to be this seasons Victor Moses. Bang average winger turned brilliant wingback. Not looking likely....

37 minutes ago, STATS said:

I am not out here stating Neto is world class. We agree Palmer is, however you are saying it is acceptable because Palmer has produced constant world class performances.

In the league, I genuinely don’t remember one game where Palmer has had a top performance against any of the top teams. It should be expected he does more than Neto yesterday.

He played RWB you absolute buffoon. Is it a surprise he had 0 shots on target? He had a good effort that was unlucky not to go in.

Yes I am defending him from imbeciles like you who troll this thread, still behaving like the class clown, and rather than give encouragement, just write nonsense.

Maybe your wife will take you back when you mature a bit. Or maybe she thinks your username reflects your real life ability…

You are out here stating Neto was one of the best players on the pitch. I have given you proof that he wasn't. Your response was "yeah but he goes brrrrr in straight line and Palmer was bad!!!!!".

Stop moving the goal posts. 4-1 win against Villa. 3-1 against Liverpool. 3-0 win against Villa. Hat trick against Utd. Every time we play Spurs. Still waiting for a single good Neto game.

He played wing back (apparently) yet spent more time closer to the Arsenal goal than Palmer. One shot OFF TARGET is f**king awful.

Why would i give encouragement to someone making us worse? Lets encourage Bakayoko and Cuadrado while we're at it. f**k it, bring back Badiashile from his loan.

Maybe Neto will read your posts and let you watch him shower one day. Keep praying for it buddy.

40 minutes ago, AJMurphy said:

I was hoping he was going to be this seasons Victor Moses. Bang average winger turned brilliant wingback. Not looking likely....

Portuguese Baba Rahaman

27 minutes ago, All Barco no bite said:

You are out here stating Neto was one of the best players on the pitch. I have given you proof that he wasn't. Your response was "yeah but he goes brrrrr in straight line and Palmer was bad!!!!!".

Stop moving the goal posts. 4-1 win against Villa. 3-1 against Liverpool. 3-0 win against Villa. Hat trick against Utd. Every time we play Spurs. Still waiting for a single good Neto game.

He played wing back (apparently) yet spent more time closer to the Arsenal goal than Palmer. One shot OFF TARGET is f**king awful.

Why would i give encouragement to someone making us worse? Lets encourage Bakayoko and Cuadrado while we're at it. f**k it, bring back Badiashile from his loan.

Maybe Neto will read your posts and let you watch him shower one day. Keep praying for it buddy.

Yes, he was one of our better players, facts. He also tracked back twice, won the ball and started attacks. Your comment was just a usual ‘class clown’ comment.

He worked his socks off yesterday and I acknowledged his crossing was poor but to say he had a terrible game is ridiculous. Especially when you dig out one player.

Btw last season Neto actually scored and assisted in quite a few games. You obviously will choose not to remember.

So all these reports seem to unanimously agree with Neto or were they watching a different game. Both the Standard and Guardian rated him as our best/one of best attackers.

Lol I asked to name a big away game in the league and you brought up those games. Please try Arsenal away, Liverpool away, City away, United away. I love Palmer but seeing as he is our best player, he should be doing more and it is a regular thing that these type of games he does not make an impact.

Anyway, same way you show me these heat maps which does not paint a full narrative, let’s look at match reports from neutrals and Chelsea fans.

You want me to show more??

https://www.facebook.com/chelseabreakingnewsohume/posts/for-me-pedro-neto-was-chelseas-best-player-against-arsenal-yesterdayhe-worked-ha/1525644656245582/

https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2026/sep/06/arsenal-v-chelsea-premier-league-live

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-fc-ratings-vs-arsenal-rogers-joao-pedro-martinez-b1295945.html

Edited Monday at 16:373 days by STATS

1 hour ago, STATS said:

Yes, he was one of our better players, facts. He also tracked back twice, won the ball and started attacks. Your comment was just a usual ‘class clown’ comment.

He worked his socks off yesterday and I acknowledged his crossing was poor but to say he had a terrible game is ridiculous. Especially when you dig out one player.

Btw last season Neto actually scored and assisted in quite a few games. You obviously will choose not to remember.

So all these reports seem to unanimously agree with Neto or were they watching a different game. Both the Standard and Guardian rated him as our best/one of best attackers.

Lol I asked to name a big away game in the league and you brought up those games. Please try Arsenal away, Liverpool away, City away, United away. I love Palmer but seeing as he is our best player, he should be doing more and it is a regular thing that these type of games he does not make an impact.

Anyway, same way you show me these heat maps which does not paint a full narrative, let’s look at match reports from neutrals and Chelsea fans.

You want me to show more??

https://www.facebook.com/chelseabreakingnewsohume/posts/for-me-pedro-neto-was-chelseas-best-player-against-arsenal-yesterdayhe-worked-ha/1525644656245582/

https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2026/sep/06/arsenal-v-chelsea-premier-league-live

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-fc-ratings-vs-arsenal-rogers-joao-pedro-martinez-b1295945.html

I'm not sure you know what a fact is. tracked back twice haha in 81 minutes haha as a wing back. GG give him another 200k a week. Name an attack he started pls

I dug out Fofana too, chill hombre.

1 hour ago, STATS said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2026/sep/06/arsenal-v-chelsea-premier-league-live

This link has nothing about ratings, the only time i see Neto mentioned is when the bloke writing the article forgot he even existed:

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-fc-ratings-vs-arsenal-rogers-joao-pedro-martinez-b1295945.html

This one also has Wes Fofana as our best defender, tells you everything you need to know. In short, what you're saying is statistical data is bad but random columnist opinion is good?

https://www.facebook.com/chelseabreakingnewsohume/posts/for-me-pedro-neto-was-chelseas-best-player-against-arsenal-yesterdayhe-worked-ha/1525644656245582/

This is a random african fan account on facebook? What are we doing here. I could post thousands of tweets about how ass he was.

You've moved the goalpost again whilst once again dodging the question of naming a Neto game. Keep sh*tting on our best player though.

3 hours ago, AJMurphy said:

I was hoping he was going to be this seasons Victor Moses. Bang average winger turned brilliant wingback. Not looking likely....

Closer to Victor Meldrew

6 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

Closer to Victor Meldrew

40 minutes ago, All Barco no bite said:

I'm not sure you know what a fact is. tracked back twice haha in 81 minutes haha as a wing back. GG give him another 200k a week. Name an attack he started pls

I dug out Fofana too, chill hombre.

This link has nothing about ratings, the only time i see Neto mentioned is when the bloke writing the article forgot he even existed:

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-fc-ratings-vs-arsenal-rogers-joao-pedro-martinez-b1295945.html

This one also has Wes Fofana as our best defender, tells you everything you need to know. In short, what you're saying is statistical data is bad but random columnist opinion is good?

https://www.facebook.com/chelseabreakingnewsohume/posts/for-me-pedro-neto-was-chelseas-best-player-against-arsenal-yesterdayhe-worked-ha/1525644656245582/

This is a random african fan account on facebook? What are we doing here. I could post thousands of tweets about how ass he was.

You've moved the goalpost again whilst once again dodging the question of naming a Neto game. Keep sh*tting on our best player though.

Maybe you need to go to Specsavers. "61 min Pedro Neto, who has been Chelsea’s best attacker from right wing-back, tees up Gusto on the edge of the area. He whips a first-time shot over the bar." Please read properly.

Both the Standard and Guardian rated his performance. You are talking nonsense. You mentioned Palmer having two shots. Anyone who saw that game knew he was ineffective.

Oh so because he is an African, it means that his opinion means nothing? He clearly is a Chelsea fan. You do realise Chelsea has a huge fanbase in Africa and they watch the exact same game.

Palmer, I am not sh*tting on. I am proving a point to show how you are selective. Palmer is a world class player but in big away games he does not turn up and is average and should be doing better. I am not talking about games at home. Away from home in league, he has never shown in any big league game.

I did not say Neto was great, but he definitely was not sh*t as you say. And he was up and down against the best Arsenal defence. I promise you, most Chelsea fans and Arsenal fans alone realise he put effort in and had a decent game. You are just nitpicking. Majority of ratings would defo tell you neto was decent. But your judging of players is by heatmaps.

We get you hate him and that is the real reason you are bashing him rather than actually thinking he was sh*t. I am sure you rated Garnacho for less last season.

11 hours ago, STATS said:

Maybe you need to go to Specsavers. "61 min Pedro Neto, who has been Chelsea’s best attacker from right wing-back, tees up Gusto on the edge of the area. He whips a first-time shot over the bar." Please read properly.

Both the Standard and Guardian rated his performance. You are talking nonsense. You mentioned Palmer having two shots. Anyone who saw that game knew he was ineffective.

Oh so because he is an African, it means that his opinion means nothing? He clearly is a Chelsea fan. You do realise Chelsea has a huge fanbase in Africa and they watch the exact same game.

Palmer, I am not sh*tting on. I am proving a point to show how you are selective. Palmer is a world class player but in big away games he does not turn up and is average and should be doing better. I am not talking about games at home. Away from home in league, he has never shown in any big league game.

I did not say Neto was great, but he definitely was not sh*t as you say. And he was up and down against the best Arsenal defence. I promise you, most Chelsea fans and Arsenal fans alone realise he put effort in and had a decent game. You are just nitpicking. Majority of ratings would defo tell you neto was decent. But your judging of players is by heatmaps.

We get you hate him and that is the real reason you are bashing him rather than actually thinking he was sh*t. I am sure you rated Garnacho for less last season.

Best attacker with checks notes zero shots on target and zero accurate crosses. Running fast in a straight line doesn’t mean a good performance. You may be easily fooled by someone looking busy, but watch and understand.

Yes his opinion means less, watching the game via YouTube highlights means less than people that go to games and are engrained in the culture. He’s a fan, I can post thousands of tweets of people sh*tting on Neto’s performances.

Maybe go and read the Garnacho thread and what I wrote about his performances at the time rather than making things up.

@Mod Can we move this thread to the Tedious Repetitive Rehash section?

47 minutes ago, dermott said:

@Mod Can we move this thread to the Tedious Repetitive Rehash section?

21 hours ago, All Barco no bite said:

Last season he scored 10 PL goals, for reference this would be double Neto's highest ever PL goal tally in a single season (8th season). If 10 goals for Palmer is 'poor', then 5 goals for Neto is absolutely abysmal. Thank you for proving my point.

By attracted i mean there must be some form of arousal to defend someone so painfully average. Hope this clears up any confusion.

What's your point exactly? You make it sound as if people saying neto is better than palmer in general which is obviously not the case but that doesn't mean palmer can not have a poorer game than neto. Take the arsenal game for example, while neto might not have a stellar game, he certainly had a decent game compared to other Chelsea players but your view is constant that he always played very poorly. You went hyperbole with praise for the player you like (or sexually attracted) and grossly criticize the player you don't fancy at every opportunity regardless of his performance. This only proves you're bias in your review.

Just out of curiosity, do you have a thing for males? Because you seem to be the only one here who view at player in sexual way.

vs Arsenal, Neto was the second worst Chelsea player on the pitch, just ahead of Fofana. He was poor defensively (which I struggle to have a go at him for as he’s a winger not a defender) and beyond wasteful going forward. Crossing was pathetic, passing and positioning were consistently poor and these are basics he should be excelling at in this system.

I think for a lot of people (Not El Cheesey obviously) the thought of Neto far exceeds the actual ability of Neto. You picture a quick direct winger, you get an out of position, terrible touch, unable to cross, poor decision making wide man. Essentially the Madeira Madueke.

The point is moot because at full strength he doesn’t start for us, he becomes the 4th choice RB (Palestra, Gusto & James) and 6th/7th choice attacking option (JP, CP, Rogers, Stevie, Quenda, Welbeck) and this whole thread can go to the Jackson graveyard.

He’s sh*t.

1 hour ago, dermott said:

@Mod Can we move this thread to the Tedious Repetitive Rehash section?

Never seen such pointless energy wasted on a player.

He’s a road runner with zero IQ. End thread.

What's quite funny is that the same rating system (Sofascore) being used to slate Neto also shows that Fofana was the best defender !

Probably why All Barco guillotined the screenshot to only show the front seven LOL

Josh fans ... look away 😇

Edited Tuesday at 10:453 days by Sexyfootball

Not really sure what the debate is all about, he's just an okay player who puts in a good shift. Against arsenal he was one of our best attackers but 1) that's not saying much seeing as all were poor and 2) every time he did something good he made a poor final decision as usual

3 hours ago, BolaBall said:

What's your point exactly? You make it sound as if people saying neto is better than palmer in general which is obviously not the case but that doesn't mean palmer can not have a poorer game than neto. Take the arsenal game for example, while neto might not have a stellar game, he certainly had a decent game compared to other Chelsea players but your view is constant that he always played very poorly. You went hyperbole with praise for the player you like (or sexually attracted) and grossly criticize the player you don't fancy at every opportunity regardless of his performance. This only proves you're bias in your review.

Just out of curiosity, do you have a thing for males? Because you seem to be the only one here who view at player in sexual way.

Show me who I have gone over the top in saying had a good game at the weekend. No one had a good game, I simply stated Neto is a bad player and offered nothing (as usual).

2 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

He’s sh*t.

No he’s not he’s our best player at running fast in a straight line!!!