1 hour ago, GarnachoCheese said:

I’ll just assume you’re a new era fan that didn’t actually watch us back then saying this.

You’re probably wrong. He’s a twat supporting another team coming here because he thinks he’s going to get some minutes of fame and w**k over it and all. The prick.

L

On 09/12/2025 at 22:12, C0ck said:

It was a masterclass of sorts, in how to win ugly on a weekly basis. You can't say we played with flair back then though.

We were the second highest goal scorers when we won our first PL title.. People only concentrate on our superb defensive, never going to be beaten goals conceded record..

On 09/12/2025 at 18:39, C0ck said:

Running a successful football club is easy if you have endless kremlin money to throw at it. Not so easy without it, is it?

Actually our owners HAVE thrown endless money at it. It took Roman 20 years and endless trophies to rack up £1.5 billion debt.

Took Clearlake 2 years to beat that debt and ruin the club.

Kyril Louis-Dreyfus, the 27 year old majority shareholder and owner of Sunderland has the transfer strategy figured out better than our duo.

Firstly, they’ve studied the fact that lots of teams get promoted to the premier league and go back down immediately. They injected £180m to sign 14 players because according to him, you have to do something extraordinary to survive the premier league.

Before the season also started, himself and his team have planned what January transfer would look like:

1. If we’re in the bottom 3, there are certain players we would get

2. If we’re in the top 10, there are certain players we would also get.

Now, his master strategy is to recruit young players, and maintain an average age. Sunderland were the youngest team in League one, the youngest in the championship and now the 3rd youngest in the premier league, only behind Chelsea & Brentford.

Despite this master strategy, it’s just like in agile project management framework, your plan needs to be flexible to accommodate changes, he’s recruited “experience” in Xhaka and Reinildo, to guide the youth. Yes, I know I only want youth, but in this league, a little adjustment might be needed, I’ll add one or two experience players to guide them, and that’s what he’s done. Irrespective, his team is still the 3rd youngest in the league.

The Winstewart duo are yet again embarrassing the club in the transfer business, this time briefing their "inquiry" on Semenyo.

Here's what I fail to comprehend. We've been told time and again that they're very concerned with keeping our wage structure and having a relatively low wage bill and that's why the Olise/Osimhen/Semenyo etc transfers have no real chance of happening. I think it probably has more to do with an ability to sell players much easier when they're young and have low wages. But by that logic, if our best talents Palmer/Caicedo/Estevao in a few years improve to a point where they'll be entering their prime years wouldn't they demand the very same top wages the club refuses to offer to big names in the transfer market? Otherwise they'll simply force the move to other top clubs, no?

6 hours ago, abramovich said:

The Winstewart duo are yet again embarrassing the club in the transfer business, this time briefing their "inquiry" on Semenyo.

Here's what I fail to comprehend. We've been told time and again that they're very concerned with keeping our wage structure and having a relatively low wage bill and that's why the Olise/Osimhen/Semenyo etc transfers have no real chance of happening. I think it probably has more to do with an ability to sell players much easier when they're young and have low wages. But by that logic, if our best talents Palmer/Caicedo/Estevao in a few years improve to a point where they'll be entering their prime years wouldn't they demand the very same top wages the club refuses to offer to big names in the transfer market? Otherwise they'll simply force the move to other top clubs, no?

All it takes is for Palmer or Caicedo to request a move because they were fed the lie that the club were going to build themselves into a title challenging team.

We have yet again, for the 3rd straight season, stood still.

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

All it takes is for Palmer or Caicedo to request a move because they were fed the lie that the club were going to build themselves into a title challenging team.

We have yet again, for the 3rd straight season, stood still.

There is enough evidence there for them do so already.

You can be 100% certain that, if they became available, both of them, and Reece James, would be wanted by the best clubs in Europe.

Meaning the chance to compete for the biggest honors most seasons.

Champions league every season guaranteed.

Bigger wages by far for Moi and Cole, possibly for Reece too though he is on pre wage cap 250k a week.

Honestly I don't know why they have not started pushing for moves. Well i know why Reece hasn't he is Chelsea through and through and had injury issues.

But Moi and Cole why? For the money spent this squad is a joke, the first team laughably has players like Garnacho, Fofana and Joao Pedro in it and we are being turned down by Bournemouth players!

Whole thing is a right mess.

On 09/12/2025 at 18:43, C0ck said:

Just to be clear though, you couldn't pay me enough (LOL) to return to the 2000's RA/JM era either. Trophies aside, a style of play which quite literally left me sedated at times.

Boom ..."trophies aside".... gotta be a spuds troll.😂

Winstanley are a plague.. anyone could have told you gittens won’t make it .. buy we paid 60mil on him?? We don’t need CBs because we have badsh*t who hit balls straight at opponents and can’t defend 1v1.. embarrassing to see how much they have spent .. fair to say this experiment has been a joke and it’s falling flat on their face.. 150 mil on wingers to end up with garnacho gittens and Neto ?? You gotta be kidding me.. how are they an upgrade on Madueke Neto Sancho .. spent more money to end up weaker .. fck offf

Board aren't going anywhere so we need to get those out who are responsible for building this squad.

A protest needs to start because this is as the title says DIABOLICAL.

4 years and 2 billion spent with no progress is criminal.

I'm so demotivated. I have to work every day to make a living and be good at my job to keep my job.

These directors are on 6 figure salaries to kill a football club. I could've done no worse with no Sporting Director experience.

Fuming.

Eghbali needs to clock that these f**kers just threw away £100m for Garnacho and Gittens. Flushed it down the toilet.

They also need to realize the squad they built, the one they promised of standards raising with Champions League football, is going backwards. Backwards because of the players they signed and the manager they selected.

13 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Eghbali needs to clock that these f**kers just threw away £100m for Garnacho and Gittens. Flushed it down the toilet.

They also need to realize the squad they built, the one they promised of standards raising with Champions League football, is going backwards. Backwards because of the players they signed and the manager they selected.

They're still about £70m behind Eghbali though LOL, as he was front and central for the signings of Fernandez and Mudryk 🤠

Anybody thinking these two clowns aren't diabolical at their job needs to give their head a wobble. What they have amassed is a crime against football. How do you get that much money and you throw it away on so much trash? Anybody that has watched football would know that signing Garnacho and Gittens has too much of a risk factor applied to it. It was always going to fail and now we are worse off than last season.

How the f**k does the floor keep getting lower? From Sterling, to Mudryk, to Sancho, to Garnacho, to Gittens. This is just one position, and not a single one of them are better than the guy we replaced, Pulisic. Quenda is coming in next season, another embryo that will get the Estevao treatment.

Up front and the CB's are no better. Guiu, Jackson, Pedro, Delap. One Barcelona reject, two players that we're not sure are even real strikers, and a Championship level footballer that thinks just throwing his weight around is good football.

Then there is the untouchable twat in midfield that moves like a 35 midfielder who's legs have gone.

Just an unbelievable amount of incompetence.

Everyone makes mistakes in all walks of life, however these morons seem to repeat their failings again and again. They keep paying over the odds for limited players and to compound matters they keep buying players for positions we already have an abundance of, I mean how many wingers do we need or are they trying to buy up the whole market so they are in short supply.

Then when it comes to decent strikers which are genuinely in short supply they just gloss over the issue and bring more wide men rather than paying top dollar for an experienced quality striker.

It ok having a buying model we've all done it but you must have some flexibility - there's no such thing as a 17 year old seasoned player.

They have high hopes for all the youngsters stashed at Strasbourg and the like but I wouldn't want to depend on it.

The future looks like more of the same and I don't think anyone ( bar themselves) are impressed by the name dropping of Bellingham.

Every transfer window going forward is focussed on offloading failures before bringing players in. How the hell did we get here, it's madness and incompetence of the first order.

On 09/12/2025 at 21:51, C0ck said:

United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City, Newcastle Utd, Spurs. That's 6 right off the bat that are certainly bigger than us in terms of support, revenue, financial backing and as you've said, stadiums.

West Ham and Everton also potentially have claims to be bigger (although less than the above), especially when income generation is taken into account (West Ham especially - for reasons which seem a bit - hmmmm).

The last aspect which marked us as a 'big club' was international visibility/marketing but that's been on the wane for years now. And far more clubs not just in La Liga but the Bundesliga and Ligue 1 growing on the international stage now.

Realistically we are simply a (bit) bigger than an average domestic top flight club now.

Hahaha.

Stadiums do not show the size of a club.

Would Estevao have signed for Tottenham, Everton, Newcastle, or West Ham? Of course he wouldn’t. We can attract a far better standard of player than those listed. It’s others perception of Chelsea as a big club that makes us a big club..

The Club from top to bottom is full of complacent mediocre twats that think themselves as the best this Club has ever seen. They’ve taken Chelsea from Champions of Europe to midtable fodder while paying top money. How incompetent can the board and SDs be? All the while the PR machine tells us (even on this forum) that there hasn’t been a more competent plan and clearer lines in the club until now.

Another amazing display of the dross they have accumulated right from manager to players.. happy new year!

Certainly they go with Maresca? It's all there to see on the pitch. Their work.

On 27/12/2025 at 19:59, Scott Harris said:

Anybody thinking these two clowns aren't diabolical at their job needs to give their head a wobble. What they have amassed is a crime against football. How do you get that much money and you throw it away on so much trash? Anybody that has watched football would know that signing Garnacho and Gittens has too much of a risk factor applied to it. It was always going to fail and now we are worse off than last season.

How the f**k does the floor keep getting lower? From Sterling, to Mudryk, to Sancho, to Garnacho, to Gittens. This is just one position, and not a single one of them are better than the guy we replaced, Pulisic. Quenda is coming in next season, another embryo that will get the Estevao treatment.

Up front and the CB's are no better. Guiu, Jackson, Pedro, Delap. One Barcelona reject, two players that we're not sure are even real strikers, and a Championship level footballer that thinks just throwing his weight around is good football.

Then there is the untouchable twat in midfield that moves like a 35 midfielder who's legs have gone.

Just an unbelievable amount of incompetence.

Chelsea fans have a different opinion of the Sporting Directors to that of the owners. .

We KNOW their work has been awful.

The owners on the other hand are so pleased with them that as a reward, they extended their contracts by 6 years..

Obviously multi youngster player trading is the the owners priority . Improving the team isn't. . New SDs will still have to be on board with the owners ridiculous "plan" . .

We shouldn’t be surprised when you really think about it.

From the very beginning it was said this board all about trading.

We pluck a manager from a championship team who kept most of their players after relegation so there was a good chance they’d get promoted whoever is in charge.

And our number 2 is a goalkeeper who spent most of his career on the bench.

There is literally no winning mentality at this club anymore.

We’ve finally turned into a version of Brighton, apart we spend 100’s of millions of pounds to be an average team.

Their continued employment shows BlueCo does not care about building a winning team.

The ownership decided to hire these guys. All the blame should go on them for hiring them. There were top sporting directors out there, but no, this ownership went with whatever we have now. So called football experts, apparently. This all goes back to the ownership and their hiring decisions.

Lost for words about these clowns!!