http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/27258633

Not what we need (if the quotes are 100% accurate)

My God... how could the thing happen like this ?  Things are going towards what the mainstream medias want ? 

Jose hits back at Hazard... seriously, but they couldn't make the article seem like he actually was.

He did come down pretty hard on him! Just right.

I worry about any potential tension. Should be kept in private I feel but I hope they sort everything out. Not sure what was the need to go out in public and say that. 

Edited May 2, 201412 yr by MANoWAR

It's just a bit of criticism, it's hardly a bad thing. Joe Cole was getting a lot of that under Mourinho. He worked on it and improved as a player. People need to understand that criticism isn't always a bad thing. If you are forever praising a player it is likely that that player will become complacent.

Begs the question; were Hazard's words actually twisted?

IMO there wasn't really much more Hazard could do considering he was coming back from an injury, and the game actually had to be won.

Criticism is fine; I expect that but why is he telling the media all this? As far as forever praising a player goes, I'm not sure if I've heard that publicly myself. 

 

It worked with Joe Cole but it's still a risk nonetheless. Hazard is really our best player too so I wouldn't want him to be pissed off like this when the issue can be address privately, no? Asking a lot of a player who probably has never had to defend as much before, to suddenly have to have defensive instincts to track player runs and be aware in those situations. Needs time to develop that too really. 

 

There's the fact that Hazard was rushing to be fit for this game as well. So I don't see why he's blaming him when he obviously tried his hardest to be ready for that game? 

Edited May 2, 201412 yr by MANoWAR

It hardly a big deal though. It's just the way Mourinho works. If Hazard can't take it then he really isn't in the right sport. Mourinho is trying to turn these players into winners like last time around and to do that he needs to improve them mentally, he isn't criticising Hazard for the sake of it.

I don't know what you mean by that -- Hazard isn't in the right sport? There are plenty of managers who don't don't do that kind of stuff publicly -- those who have a better record at developing players as well. It's the second time he's done this with Hazard. 

 

Mancini is also well known for doing this and the players eventually got fed up. I think he's being harsh and somewhat unreasonable with Hazard considering the circumstances. 

Edited May 2, 201412 yr by MANoWAR

There are plenty of managers who don't don't do that kind of stuff publicly -- those who have a better record at developing players as well.

Who?

Jose has turned various players into better players and that is FACT.

Developed JT and FL into winners.

Got Drogba who was a rough round the edges striker to be one of the best strikers in the world.

Made Ronaldo a more rounder player.

Gave Varne his chance and he looks the buisness.

Not to mention what he done with the Porto team and turned what many saw as average players into superstars at the time like Deco, Carvalho ect.

If you are honestly trying to question the best manager in world football in what would work best for his players then you are a fool.

If you don't like it don't watch it, no-one is forcing you to and frankly you come across as an ungrateful grub when you complain about us winning but not in the style you personally would like.

I think I'm free to give my opinions? And if you don't like just don't respond, no-one is forcing you to? Simple as that.

Edited May 2, 201412 yr by CFCBlue12

It's harsh but hardly surprising for anyone who knows Jose 

Usually players grow to love the man, because he instills team spirit - he felt Eden could do more defensively.

 

I personally felt it was a risk to play Eden from the start against Madrid and it didn't work out but if he hadn't played and we ended up losing it would also been a mistake and suddenly the media would generate a story about how he should have risked him. The media took things out of context with the Eden interview - while Jose used the opportunity to require a reaction from Hazard in terms of doing more to help his full back.

 

Anyhow I don't think there is even a 1% chance of Eden not being the first team next season.  

Who?

Jose has turned various players into better players and that is FACT.

Developed JT and FL into winners.

Got Drogba who was a rough round the edges striker to be one of the best strikers in the world.

Made Ronaldo a more rounder player.

Gave Varne his chance and he looks the buisness.

Not to mention what he done with the Porto team and turned what many saw as average players into superstars at the time like Deco, Carvalho ect.

If you are honestly trying to question the best manager in world football in what would work best for his players then you are a fool.

You forgot Sneijder, Milito, Ozil, Di Maria, Eto`o, Ibrahimovic

Who?

Jose has turned various players into better players and that is FACT.

Developed JT and FL into winners.

Got Drogba who was a rough round the edges striker to be one of the best strikers in the world.

Made Ronaldo a more rounder player.

Gave Varne his chance and he looks the buisness.

Not to mention what he done with the Porto team and turned what many saw as average players into superstars at the time like Deco, Carvalho ect.

If you are honestly trying to question the best manager in world football in what would work best for his players then you are a fool.

 

Pipe down. I'm free to give my opinions and there are plenty of people who would do the same with regards to Mourinho.

 

Where did I say he doesn't develop players? I'm saying there are other managers out there who are better at developing them who don't have a record of publicly going out & criticising them. But to answer your questions: 

 

Made Ronaldo into a better player; they then had a falling out with Mourinho constantly making some public criticisms. He lost the dressing room with Madrid. Great management there. 

 

Gave Varane his chance because he had no other option.

 

Average players? Mourinho inherited the golden generation of Portuguese players there who had great potential. No idea where you got that idea that they were all average. 

 

I've been playing pretty much every game for the whole season, to which I then got injured at some point. The game in which I come back from injury and rushed to come back from, I am then publically criticised by my manager for also doing things that is totally new to me. What would I do? I'd definitely be pissed off. 

Edited May 2, 201412 yr by MANoWAR

There isn't a single piece of information in what Jose has said that he hasn't said to Eden 1000 times in training. He said earlier in the season this virtually exactly. Hazard could be the best in the world but he needs to take the steps necessary to hit those highs.

Pipe down. I'm free to give my opinions and there are plenty of people who would do the same with regards to Mourinho.

 

Where did I say he doesn't develop players? I'm saying there are other managers out there who are better at developing them who don't have a record of publicly going out & criticising them. But to answer your questions: 

 

Made Ronaldo into a better player; they then had a falling out with Mourinho constantly making some public criticisms. He lost the dressing room with Madrid. Great management there. 

 

Gave Varane his chance because he had no other option.

 

Average players? Mourinho inherited the golden generation of Portuguese players there who had great potential. No idea where you got that idea that they were all average. 

 

I've been playing pretty much every game for the whole season, to which I then got injured at some point. The game in which I come back from injury and rushed to come back from, I am then publically criticised by my manager for also doing things that is totally new to me. What would I do? I'd definitely be pissed off. 

You didn't actually answer his question! He asked you who had a better record of developing players than jose

Jose is coming over as a boring bully this season. After the hanging out Mata to dry Hazard has carried us in the attacking 3rd at times this season. Not sure what purpose it serves to discuss it further than to try and apportion blame for a loss.

Slagging off your players in public is a f**kin' fast way to lose their support.

 

That was absolutely idiotic Jose, if it's true.

Hazard was fit I think but a bit match rusty and he was culpable on two of the goals. Oscar was on the bench but carrying an injury.

I don't think what Hazard said is that big of an issue as I've read the interview in it's full context and to me he didn't say anything controversial. He rather just stated the obvious about what kind of team we are.

 

However, what does bother me is how tactless Jose can sometimes be in these situations. The media prey off comments just like this and will ramp up the Hazard to PSG speculation tenfold. I know Mourinho only means this to improve Hazard as a team player but if you were him wouldn't you feel a little pissed off that your manager had to publically criticise you for something which he could have just said quietly in private?

 

I really hope this doesn't create a rift of any sort, really not what we need.

Edited May 2, 201412 yr by Celery1989

Jose just stating the facts , Hazard was culpable of letting his man go, he didnt really show up in one of the biggest matches of his  season

 

boy should keep his head down and mouth shut and work more on his defending, the main reason for the last few seasons we have been

nowhere in the league is because of poor defending, lots of flair but lots of goals conceded, Jose is attempting to correct this, the back 4 looks solid now and so the midfield must follow suit

 

its a team sport, Eden will take it on board, and next season we should be way more solid

Who? Just about every good manager out there? Ferguson? Wenger? Klopp? Has Ferguson ever gone and said Ronaldo doesn't do this for the team, especially when he'd been out for a while? 

 

Mourinho develops players who already were very good to start with anyways, but that's not important here. Ozil is a very odd example to give as well; that development and that expecting more responsibility from him is what Özil has missed in the last three years with Mourinho. He has become a world-class player, yes, but he hasn't developed as a player. In fact he's still the player he was at 21 with the same weaknesses - the same exaggerated altruism, the same adversity to taking risks in front of the goal, the same "shyness" to take responsibility in big games-, with the difference of being used to the big guys more and perhaps having brought a few backheel/bubble gum tricks to perfection. 

Edited May 2, 201412 yr by MANoWAR

Jose is coming over as a boring bully this season. After the hanging out Mata to dry Hazard has carried us in the attacking 3rd at times this season. Not sure what purpose it serves to discuss it further than to try and apportion blame for a loss.

 

He didn't leave Mata hanging out to dry. Jose said himself he wanted to keep him but Mata wanted to leave.

 

Slagging off your players in public is a f**kin' fast way to lose their support.

 

That was absolutely idiotic Jose, if it's true.

 

He didn't slag him off, he just gave out a bit of criticism. It's nothing major and to be honest i think people are going a bit overboard. Hazard isn't a child, he's a grown man, i am pretty sure he isn't crying about it.

So hazard should be treated with kid gloves cos he's our best player- nonsense. He stuffed up twice big time in our biggest game. He wants to be the best, perhaps he's believing g his own hype and needs a slap on the wrists? However you can tell media will hype this up...five live all afternoon been quoting story out or context, both hazards original quotes and now saying Jose is questioning his commitment, failing to clarify he's talking tactically and making it sound like its lack of committment to chelsea

If hazard has the attitude jose demands from his players he will take these comments onboard and learn from it. If he has the attitude most of you lot have he will be out out the door this time next year.

 

To be fair to hazard he has improved his defensive game this season and hopefully it will get even better next year.

Who? Just about every good manager out there? Ferguson? Wenger? Klopp? 

 

Mourinho develops players who already were very good to start with anyways, but that's not important here. Ozil is a very odd example to give as well; that development and that expecting more responsibility from him is what Özil has missed in the last three years with Mourinho. He has become a world-class player, yes, but he hasn't developed as a player. In fact he's still the player he was at 21 with the same weaknesses - the same exaggerated altruism, the same adversity to taking risks in front of the goal, the same "shyness" to take responsibility in big games-, with the difference of being used to the big guys more and perhaps having brought a few backheel/bubble gum tricks to perfection. 

 

Ferguson criticised his players a fair bit to get them to improve.