Never seen what all the fuss is about when it comes to Ribery.

Never seen what all the fuss is about when it comes to Ribery.

Agreed, thought it was just me

Robben is a champions league final match winner, he's done it on all the top stages including world cups. He has multiple titles to his name in which he played a large part for his team's success. Of course he'd be rated higher than Hazard. 

 

Yeah and he bottled two massive finals before that.

 

Hazard is more talented than Robben, you described him as someone who cuts through the defence and boom it's a goal? You must not see the 50 shots he blazes way off target.

 

He has improved in the Guardiola system but he's not in the same class as Hazard.

But the issue with that is he looks for passes that aren't there and doesn't shoot when he has good chances to.

 

no, the passes are definitely there. he just needs better players around him

Robben is deservedly rated higher than Hazard.

So who would you rather have, a current Hazard or a current Robben in the side? I don't know how anyone could go with the latter.

So who would you rather have, a current Hazard or a current Robben in the side? I don't know how anyone could go with the latter.

Why not both 

So who would you rather have, a current Hazard or a current Robben in the side? I don't know how anyone could go with the latter.

Your argument is so stupid. People are saying Robben is better NOW! not that they would rather have him over Hazard...

Okay so current Robben is better but you wouldn't have him over current Hazard, yes that makes sense.

Okay so current Robben is better but you wouldn't have him over current Hazard, yes that makes sense.

yes, because Robben is 31 and Hazard is 24 you dumbass. Hazards value will keep appreciating whilst Robben will decline very soon. As a fan you want long term success so of course I would rather have Hazard, BUT that doesn't mean he's better than Robben you twat.

If Robben was the same age and in a similar physical condition, and I look at it in a cold ruthless way where both were for instance, Arsenal players (I'm not saying Liverpool because I probably wouldnt want them however good they were) and both available at the same time, it would Robben over Hazard.

Hazard, you have a natural affinity towards because he is a current Chelsea player, his style is very easy on the eye - you'd enjoy watching him play, he's a more creative, team player and he plays the game the right way without all the added dramas.

Robben, on the other hand, is electrifying - a pure, effective, direct attacking menace and persistant goal threat with the drive and single-minded winning mentality.

It's a Little like Messi and Ronaldo in a way for me. One has a style that is charming and devastatingly effective while the other has a style that is ruthless and devastatingly effective.

For me, Robben ahead, but Hazard's play this season is showing he is getting there and is not far behind at all.

Two of my favourites. Imagine both in the same team... Words can't describe.

 Apart from Robben having the opportunity to continually do it at the highest level by association alone i.e being a Bayern Munich player, it's difficult to categorically say he's better than Hazard and if he is, then there's not much in it. If Robben had been in Chelsea since 2012, he won't have gotten as much as exposure as he's had in the Champions league for example.

 

 Mourinho's defensive tactics would have minimized his impact pretty significantly. So, again, it's difficult to say he's better. In the Super Cup, the only time both players were on the pitch together, Robben couldn't get out of Ashley Cole's pocket all game while Hazard was the star of the show, humiliating Lahm, the best fullback in the world, for his goal. And that was Hazard at 22 not this current version. Robben plays for a much better, attacking team in an easier league and it's easier for him to show his quality. If both players could swap teams, I think the difference between them will be less clear. It's important to take all these factors to consideration when evaluating both players. 

Edited April 11, 201511 yr by The Liquidator

The best player at Munich and 3rd best player in the world imo is one of Lahm or Neuer.

It's very good point by liquidator, with regards to defensive responsiblities. This is one of my apprehensions when it comes to Hazard and his future here.

yes, because Robben is 31 and Hazard is 24 you dumbass. Hazards value will keep appreciating whilst Robben will decline very soon. As a fan you want long term success so of course I would rather have Hazard, BUT that doesn't mean he's better than Robben you twat.

 

Well name calling isn't necessary but agreed. 

It's very good point by liquidator, with regards to defensive responsiblities. This is one of my apprehensions when it comes to Hazard and his future here.

I think Robben does his fair share of defensive work. In Jupp Heynckes team, he was not only involved in attacking, but regularly pressed and harassed the opposing full back. 

yes, because Robben is 31 and Hazard is 24 you dumbass. Hazards value will keep appreciating whilst Robben will decline very soon. As a fan you want long term success so of course I would rather have Hazard, BUT that doesn't mean he's better than Robben you twat.

 

You're calling me a dumbass yet you are completely missing my point. Notice how I say 'current' that is the argument I'm making. If you could have one player right now for this 'current' time you would have Robben over Hazard? I'm not talking about long term I'm talking about the here and now which is why I'm using the word 'current' so many times.

 

If most people would choose Robben then I am very surprised with this forum.

 

Since you called me a name I guess I'm entitled to throw one back, so how about you go suck a cock you c**t. That should do it, cheers.

Edited April 12, 201511 yr by Slawth

This is just brilliant. The amount of chances he creates..

 

Im with Slawth on this one. I'd choose the best Hazard over the best Robben.

You're calling me a dumbass yet you are completely missing my point. Notice how I say 'current' that is the argument I'm making. If you could have one player right now for this 'current' time you would have Robben over Hazard? I'm not talking about long term I'm talking about the here and now which is why I'm using the word 'current' so many times.

 

If most people would choose Robben then I am very surprised with this forum.

 

Since you called me a name I guess I'm entitled to throw one back, so how about you go suck a cock you c**t. That should do it, cheers.

Why is it that surprising? The difference between the two is minimal at best, both are at the same level I would say.

Scary to think Hazard probably isn't anywhere near his best. Cannot wait for him to grow and reach his best at Chelsea.

Great article by Henry Winter explaining why Hazard should win PFA player of the year:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11530301/It-will-be-a-travesty-beyond-compare-if-Chelseas-Eden-Hazard-is-not-named-Player-of-the-Year.html

In all honesty I think Lionel Messi is the only player on the planet I'd swap Hazard for right now, and even then I'd be worrying about whether I'd underestimated his ceiling. Simply unbelievable young player, and without him we wouldn't be anywhere near where we are now.

Not his best game, but showed his work rate and anticipation to get our goal out of nothing. 1-2 years ago he would not close down the defender like that. Even on his bad day, he still created a number of chances which should have been converted, or at least test the goal keeper.

The anticipation to nick the ball and the combination for the assist could just have won us the league! Top man.