33 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

I wonder if there is any scope in making a play for the corner of Battersea Park, right opposite the power station ? Where the athletics stadium and the tennis courts are ?

A hard up council might like a swap for the land at Stamford Bridge ?

Also, anyone know what the bit of "waste" ground to the south of Stamford Bridge is used for ? Utilities perhaps ? Certainly an area that looks big enough for a stadium the size of The Emirates ... 

 

Here is a rough and ready overview of our target area ... (the actual Chelsea boundary is the dotted red line) ... with The Emirates and The Toilet Bowl shown to scale

 

The perfect site unfortunately has the Royal Hospital and an annual flower show on it ... 🙂

 

If we want to develop a top stadium at the Bridges site we need to buy more land around it, make the land mass similar in size to Earls court.

11 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

If we want to develop a top stadium at the Bridges site we need to buy more land around it, make the land mass similar in size to Earls court.

I was thinking that when looking at the map ... basically the club needs to buy every building between the ground and the Fulham Road, which will probably take several decades !

7 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

I was thinking that when looking at the map ... basically the club needs to buy every building between the ground and the Fulham Road, which will probably take several decades !

Yup, which makes development at the Bridge not financially viable.

Planning permission was granted to our Roman to build an approx  60K stadium on the current footprint.

55 minutes ago, Nitro said:

Planning permission was granted to our Roman to build an approx  60K stadium on the current footprint.

Don't know why the current owners just build the old scheme? 

5 minutes ago, Andy North said:

Don't know why the current owners just build the old scheme? 

I wish they would. It looked so unique instead of those soulless boring bowls everyone else plumps for. 

14 minutes ago, Andy North said:

Don't know why the current owners just build the old scheme? 

Needs planning permission again, and they don't want just a football stadium, they want a state of the art entertainment center to get money from the NFL, concerts, Munkworth stadium gigs etc.

 

And it would cost a lot, I read somewhere between 1.5 to 2 billion quid, and take 6 years to complete. Meaning they lose money for 6 years while we play elsewhere, and then have 2 years before sale date.

We are getting left behind.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13094605/Tottenham-make-money-Premier-League-club-match-UEFA-report-two-teams-ahead-Europe-Man-United-Liverpool.html

9 hours ago, Kev56 said:

We are getting left behind.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13094605/Tottenham-make-money-Premier-League-club-match-UEFA-report-two-teams-ahead-Europe-Man-United-Liverpool.html

Strongly agree. if we can’t do anything at the Bridge we need to seriously consider other options even if they’re slightly further afield. Earls Court would’ve been perfect but that’s been ruled out. Anymore recent news on the situation at Old Oak Common?

7 hours ago, Chelsea1985 said:

Strongly agree. if we can’t do anything at the Bridge we need to seriously consider other options even if they’re slightly further afield. Earls Court would’ve been perfect but that’s been ruled out. Anymore recent news on the situation at Old Oak Common?

Old oak common? I'd be surprised if the CPO ever allowed that. 

1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

Old oak common? I'd be surprised if the CPO ever allowed that. 

I hear you. Old Oak is far from my first choice but i struggle to see how many viable options are left. Earls Court(my 1st choice) is seemingly off the table. Battersea is obviously a no-go now, same with White City. If there’s no way of redeveloping the Bridge we’re going to have to make a huge decision 

10 hours ago, Chelsea1985 said:

Strongly agree. if we can’t do anything at the Bridge we need to seriously consider other options even if they’re slightly further afield.

The year is 2035 - welcome to one of the biggest derby matches in football - MK Dons vs MK Blues. Venue - New Stamford Bridge, Milton Keynes.

I think the club should redevelop my house in to less of a sh*t tip as practice for redeveloping a stadium. Please email Boehly if you agree. 

2 hours ago, Chelsea1985 said:

I hear you. Old Oak is far from my first choice but i struggle to see how many viable options are left. Earls Court(my 1st choice) is seemingly off the table. Battersea is obviously a no-go now, same with White City. If there’s no way of redeveloping the Bridge we’re going to have to make a huge decision 

We can redevelop the bridge. 

Old oak common is a non starter for me. 

On 17/02/2024 at 13:59, Kev56 said:

We are getting left behind.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13094605/Tottenham-make-money-Premier-League-club-match-UEFA-report-two-teams-ahead-Europe-Man-United-Liverpool.html

I agree, we already have been. Arsenal, Man City, Man Utd, Tottenham, Liverpool,  Newcastle, West Ham all with bigger stadiums.

Heard Boehly is looking into bulldozing the Bridge and moving us to the Amex.

3 hours ago, bisright1 said:

We can redevelop the bridge. 

Old oak common is a non starter for me. 

If redeveloping is still an option that’s ideal. 

1 minute ago, Chelsea1985 said:

If redeveloping is still an option that’s ideal. 

It definitely is. It's just going to take a long time. Maybe 3+ years.

I'd hope we can work out a way to ground share with Fulham and use Wembley for that time. 

Spurs have gone from £45 million match day revenue to ,£100 million a year .

An extra £55 million a year BUT

they also are repaying a lot every year for the loan to build the stadium.  it's £37 million a year until 2042.

If our new stadium is going to cost £1.5 BILLION to £2 Billion, where's the financial sense in it, even if infrastructure costs don't count against FFP ?.

Has anyone seen figures for the extra income they now get from non mathday events ?

If that is substantial, then that is the only thing that would justify the outlay ?

Basically, this fan is not for moving!🤣

 

 

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Spurs have gone from £45 million match day revenue to ,£100 million a year .

An extra £55 million a year BUT

they also are repaying a lot every year for the loan to build the stadium.  it's £37 million a year until 2042.

If our new stadium is going to cost £1.5 BILLION to £2 Billion, where's the financial sense in it, even if infrastructure costs don't count against FFP ?.

Has anyone seen figures for the extra income they now get from non mathday events ?

If that is substantial, then that is the only thing that would justify the outlay ?

Basically, this fan is not for moving!🤣

I could never see how it was viable myself. 

If it's £1.5-2 billion, and you stand to make an extra £55m a year, then you're probably talking a 30-40 years payback period just to recoup the investment, let alone make any profit, at which point it's probably all falling down and you need to start all over again !

1 hour ago, The Rising Sun said:

Spurs have gone from £45 million match day revenue to ,£100 million a year .

An extra £55 million a year BUT

they also are repaying a lot every year for the loan to build the stadium.  it's £37 million a year until 2042.

If our new stadium is going to cost £1.5 BILLION to £2 Billion, where's the financial sense in it, even if infrastructure costs don't count against FFP ?.

Has anyone seen figures for the extra income they now get from non mathday events ?

If that is substantial, then that is the only thing that would justify the outlay ?

Basically, this fan is not for moving!🤣

 

 

 

 

 

I think they’ve started at the bars before and during the game. Two things I’ve bought, a small Cadbury twirl is £2 and a 500ml bottle of coke is £4.25!!

Clubs with bigger stadiums seems to get away with FFP, which is the main attraction of it despite the club has to take a huge loan to build it, and it isn't going to build itself in 6 months. Roman with all the cash couldn't ( or didn't) get it done, so be curious to see how the new owners could do it.  You take a huge mortgage, you get the rest of your life ( or longer) to pay for it. Unlike a house, I doubt a club could sell the stadium

Well, I won’t be seeing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13161629/Chelsea-fear-homeless-SIX-YEARS-ahead-Stamford-Bridge-revamp-frustration-growing-lack-progress-new-owners.html

On 04/03/2024 at 20:14, The Rising Sun said:

Spurs have gone from £45 million match day revenue to ,£100 million a year .

An extra £55 million a year BUT

they also are repaying a lot every year for the loan to build the stadium.  it's £37 million a year until 2042.

If our new stadium is going to cost £1.5 BILLION to £2 Billion, where's the financial sense in it, even if infrastructure costs don't count against FFP ?.

Has anyone seen figures for the extra income they now get from non mathday events ?

If that is substantial, then that is the only thing that would justify the outlay ?

Basically, this fan is not for moving!🤣

Yes. They've also gone from 152m commercial revenue to 261 commercial revenue. So an additional 110m. 

Moving stadium isn't about matchday. It's about commercial. 

11 hours ago, bisright1 said:

Yes. They've also gone from 152m commercial revenue to 261 commercial revenue. So an additional 110m. 

Moving stadium isn't about matchday. It's about commercial. 

That's true , but a £2 billion layout for an additional £110 m a year which we usually throw away on just one player doesn't seem to make sense . 

Plus the loan has to be repayed Tottenham are paying £37 million a year back  on a £600million loan ( I think ) for another 25 years.

Our borrowing is likely to be a lot more isn't it ? I can't remember the latest estimates but we'll be away from the Bridge for a lot longer than Spurs were away from WHL as they were able to build a large part of one end of the new stadium while still playing at WHL.

I don't know what our owners have in mind for us , what's the options for playing somewhere else for a few years dya reckon ?

Thanks for your reply mate