Last couple of matches I've noticed Moses break into the penalty box with just the keeper to beat yet instead of having a crack, he pauses looks up to see who is available for the cross one more touch and then gets clattered. Have a go man, Gronkjaer couldn't cross either yet he had a decent shot and would often score.

just finished watching the Poland vs Nigeria match - Moses put in an ok shift & scored the winning goal for the Super Eagles, but that was a PK that was given to him for diving - I don't know what to say - when it works I guess its ok but I am not a fan of divers

2 hours ago, robdog said:

just finished watching the Poland vs Nigeria match - Moses put in an ok shift & scored the winning goal for the Super Eagles, but that was a PK that was given to him for diving - I don't know what to say - when it works I guess its ok but I am not a fan of divers

Got to say Moses is getting a bad habit of diving recently, wish he’d cut it out.

On ‎19‎/‎03‎/‎2018 at 12:16, Strider6003 said:

Last couple of matches I've noticed Moses break into the penalty box with just the keeper to beat yet instead of having a crack, he pauses looks up to see who is available for the cross one more touch and then gets clattered. Have a go man, Gronkjaer couldn't cross either yet he had a decent shot and would often score.

Looks up for the cross

 

We all know that cross is never reaching it's target

Dont like getting at our players but Sorry but this man has not been good enough for Chelsea for a long time, what does he bring to the team..  Give zappacosta a run in the side

23 minutes ago, Armagh jose said:

Dont like getting at our players but Sorry but this man has not been good enough for Chelsea for a long time, what does he bring to the team..  Give zappacosta a run in the side

Thats the problem though, Super Mario is just as bad. Even Conte who is Italian who bought him doesn't even seem to rate him over Moses.

2 hours ago, jack_super_class said:

Thats the problem though, Super Mario is just as bad. Even Conte who is Italian who bought him doesn't even seem to rate him over Moses.

Which is no surprise given he was not even on Conte's shortlist of wingbacks.

9 hours ago, Orpington_Blue said:

Which is no surprise given he was not even on Conte's shortlist of wingbacks.

I still think he is a Conte signing and not the clubs.

Certainly the narrative at the time was he was a recommendation from Conte after we missed out on Danilo, Meunier etc. and refused to buy Candreva.

Frankly you wonder how a guy like Odriozola, Ricardo Pereira etc. slipped through the net.

Moses decline is symptomatic of our season. Superb last season, he has well and truly reverted to the mean. Given his home grown status he might be hard to move on in the post season. In my mind Sterling should be used ahead of both players for the remainder of the year.

13 hours ago, jack_super_class said:

Thats the problem though, Super Mario is just as bad. Even Conte who is Italian who bought him doesn't even seem to rate him over Moses.

Yeah Im no fan of Moses, but he is miles better then Zappacosta

Conte said it he wanted Walker and Danilo. Also he wanted Mendy or Sandro for the left side.

Board give him Emerson and Zapacostta.

Enough said.

 

19 minutes ago, Xfaxtor said:

Yeah Im no fan of Moses, but he is miles better then Zappacosta

Funny that when Zappacosta has actually been playing better recently but then he probably don't know what the f**k is going on when you get picked for a few then you don't make the bench for a while. 

 

5 minutes ago, brakeit said:

Conte said it he wanted Walker and Danilo. Also he wanted Mendy or Sandro for the left side.

Board give him Emerson and Zapacostta.

Enough said.

 

Don't start talking BS, any manager can talk in the press and say they like players even if the club can't afford or have no intention of buying the player. Let's just say it's true, Mendy and Walker would never join Chelsea, City is the place to go. Danilo wanted to join City so there's 3 players Chelsea have NO chance of buying. No one knows what happened with the Sandro deal, we could have been talking absolutely ridiculous money.

Edited April 2, 20188 yr by Ernie_blue

8 minutes ago, brakeit said:

Conte said it he wanted Walker and Danilo. Also he wanted Mendy or Sandro for the left side.

Board give him Emerson and Zapacostta.

Enough said.

 

Im pleased we didnt get Danilo.

I don't see a future for Moses at Chelsea in all honestly

He's a decent wing back but nothing special, with Conte likely to leave we'll probably employ a manager who plays a back 4. I can't see Moses working as a RB and he's not good enough attacking wise to start on the wing for us

the only reason he is playing is because conte insists on that formation. if it was four at the back azpilicueta would be first choice. for me we should try with a back four of azpi, christensen, rudiger, alonso/palmieri. we won't though because conte refuses to change things. 

If we play a back 4 Azpi and Aina at RB, Emerson Alonso/Rahman LB. Centre backs Rudiger,Christensen, Zouma and a new signing.

5 minutes ago, jack_super_class said:

If we play a back 4 Azpi and Aina at RB, Emerson Alonso/Rahman LB. Centre backs Rudiger,Christensen, Zouma and a new signing.

Maybe koulibaly or romagnoli. Can't see Rahman ever coming back tbh. 

Looking forward to seeing 4 at the back again, 3 at the back worked well until teams adjusted, and while it is still a good option in some games, it has limitations imo. 

13 minutes ago, big blue said:

Maybe koulibaly or romagnoli. Can't see Rahman ever coming back tbh. 

. Looking forward to seeing 4 at the back again, 3 at the back worked well until teams adjusted, and while it is still a good option in some games, it has limitations imo

Doesn't every system?. We wont be signing the 2 names above, too much money for either. I reckon we will go for someone english we might not buy anyone if Luiz ends up staying but Cahill should definitely go.

4 minutes ago, jack_super_class said:

Doesn't every system?. We wont be signing the 2 names above, too much money for either. I reckon we will go for someone english we might not buy anyone if Luiz ends up staying but Cahill should definitely go.

What I meant was no top team has regularly played 3 at the back for 20 years, even conte's juve flopped in europe, and looked better in a 4 under allegri. So I would love to see the back of it. 

Lascelles has been linked today. He seems to be developing nicely. I like Maguire at Leicester aswell. 

He's started to look like a player that had underwhelming loan spells at Liverpool, West Ham and Stoke. 

On ‎02‎/‎04‎/‎2018 at 10:27, jack_super_class said:

I still think he is a Conte signing and not the clubs.

I vaguely remember Conte saying something to the effect of "I need to evaluate Zappacosta" when the club signed him. Clear sign of a player that Conte did not know much about.

26 minutes ago, Orpington_Blue said:

I vaguely remember Conte saying something to the effect of "I need to evaluate Zappacosta" when the club signed him. Clear sign of a player that Conte did not know much about.

He worked him in the national team though.

1 hour ago, jack_super_class said:

He worked him in the national team though.

And sent him back well before the final squad selection.

He failed to out perform Darmian in the trial. That's all one needs to know about the calibre of player we have here.

Moses is a great athlete, gets up and down the wing and has pace. His problem seems to be football intelligence, constantly makes the wrong decision and has no end product. 

Zappa seems to me to be an average but steady squad player. Decent enough depth and can come in and do a job when needed. 

In short, happy to keep one of them around, but only as back up and squad depth. I don't think either are the long term answer to the rwb first team spot.

The problem is, who is there available to come in , willing to transfer to a club not playing champions league and be better (consistently) than either of them? I can't see many viable options.

For that, I would guess that both Moses and Zappa will be kept around next year, and more urgent problems will be addressed before upgrading them.