think he will improve them like Cech did to gooners, should have forced him abroad imo

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/02/jose-mourinho-nemanja-matic-genius-manchester-united

other top 6 clubs wouldn't sell us a virus , Roman is a 'mug' sometimes over transfer dealings but still the best owner in the league

 

Chelsea just treats the players like human beings.

Roman must have been one of the nicest people in Russian maffia. Chopping your wife's arm off, but at least bring her to the hospital afterwards.

[mention=14600]wallosh[/mention] Just a heads up, friend.  You can multi-quote people using the + button on their post.  Will save you time and make things more readable!

Thanks. I have no idea how I did that!

Started for United today against Sampdoria, by reports his 45 minutes were excellent, he has impressed. 
If he will bring his form back and will do his best for United, we will have to worry because at his best, he is one of the best DM's in the league.

Regardless, he is not even close to the top 10 best DM in the world.

59 minutes ago, General said:

think he will improve them like Cech did to gooners, should have forced him abroad imo

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/02/jose-mourinho-nemanja-matic-genius-manchester-united

other top 6 clubs wouldn't sell us a virus , Roman is a 'mug' sometimes over transfer dealings but still the best owner in the league

 

I don't think cech did improve the gooners at all, he has had 2 pretty poor seasons well them.

On 8/2/2017 at 11:54, brakeit said:

Matic and Oscar sum was without addson. The pure sum was 60 + 40.

 

Matic 35 plus add ons 

I still haven't seen the exact reason why Matic wanted to leave the club. The papers are saying it's because he wanted to get back with Mourinho, but I thought he had more of a connection to the club rather than Mourinho. I'm thinking that he had a falling out with Conte. If that's true that shows poor man management, Conte could've told Matic to keep fighting for his place to keep the squad strong. 

I think he is going to prove to be an invaluable player for United and right now they are favourites for the title. 

11 minutes ago, ivorycoast said:

I still haven't seen the exact reason why Matic wanted to leave the club. The papers are saying it's because he wanted to get back with Mourinho, but I thought he had more of a connection to the club rather than Mourinho. I'm thinking that he had a falling out with Conte. If that's true that shows poor man management, Conte could've told Matic to keep fighting for his place to keep the squad strong. 

I think he is going to prove to be an invaluable player for United and right now they are favourites for the title. 

I think he realised that he wasn't good enough or hasn't the energy to play in a conte team and it's not like he's Cesc who brings something extra to the team. He's been band average with the exception of a few months at the start of the season and when it was obvious the Conte was looking another for that position he wasn't prepared to stay and fight and knew his time as a starter was up.

he will probably improve Utd a bit but he's hardly the second coming. You must be one of the only ones to think Utd favourites apart from there supporters. Every bookie has them 3rd at best. 

28 minutes ago, goose said:

He's been band average with the exception of a few months at the start of the season and when it was obvious the Conte was looking another for that position he wasn't prepared to stay and fight and knew his time as a starter was up.

I feel like I'm the crazy one who rates Matic. Let us not forget that Matic has been part of a PL winning midfield for 2 of the past 3 seasons. Even if he played very simple passes and was safe in possession, it seemed to work. Just because his game was very basic, it seemed to work. It seems crazy to me that we let him go and replaced him with a player who is completely unproven in the PL. He has been involved for the club since 2009, it's sad that someone with strong ties to us is booted out and the fans don't give a sh*t. 

I'm not 100% sure in Conte's transfer decisions. A large amount of luck was involved in having a title winning squad which defied expectations. If we perform poorly Conte won't take responsibility, he and fans will blame the board. And he will be happy to leave to Inter or Milan leaving us high and dry.

1 hour ago, goose said:

he will probably improve Utd a bit but he's hardly the second coming. You must be one of the only ones to think Utd favourites apart from there supporters. Every bookie has them 3rd at best. 

Let's hope so. They don't need to become a great team to win, they just need to be better than us.

What luck was involved?

Time to move this thread to the general football thread, with a re title I think. 

 

51 minutes ago, ivorycoast said:

I feel like I'm the crazy one who rates Matic. Let us not forget that Matic has been part of a PL winning midfield for 2 of the past 3 seasons. Even if he played very simple passes and was safe in possession, it seemed to work. Just because his game was very basic, it seemed to work. It seems crazy to me that we let him go and replaced him with a player who is completely unproven in the PL. He has been involved for the club since 2009, it's sad that someone with strong ties to us is booted out and the fans don't give a sh*t. 

I'm not 100% sure in Conte's transfer decisions. A large amount of luck was involved in having a title winning squad which defied expectations. If we perform poorly Conte won't take responsibility, he and fans will blame the board. And he will be happy to leave to Inter or Milan leaving us high and dry.

Who's being booted out. It appears that he wanted to go and the board in their generosity let him go to the team of his choice even though it may come back to bite us. 

Matic was a good enough player for us but was never outstanding. Did a job but I think others are capable. Don't get me wrong I think he did well with us and he was a part of a squad that won 2 titles, but him going for £40m does bother me that much it's not that I don't give a sh*t.

20 hours ago, General said:

think he will improve them like Cech did to gooners, should have forced him abroad imo

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/02/jose-mourinho-nemanja-matic-genius-manchester-united

other top 6 clubs wouldn't sell us a virus , Roman is a 'mug' sometimes over transfer dealings but still the best owner in the league

 

arsenal haven't made the champions league for the first time in 10+ years. has cech improved them? lol

Matic price is exactly 40m. Sky and BBC report it.

 

2 hours ago, ivorycoast said:

A large amount of luck was involved in having a title winning squad which defied expectations.

f**ks sake, what luck exactly?

Conte essentially saying in his presser the decision to sell Matic was the club's not his.

5 hours ago, ivorycoast said:

I still haven't seen the exact reason why Matic wanted to leave the club. The papers are saying it's because he wanted to get back with Mourinho, but I thought he had more of a connection to the club rather than Mourinho. I'm thinking that he had a falling out with Conte. If that's true that shows poor man management, Conte could've told Matic to keep fighting for his place to keep the squad strong. 

I think he is going to prove to be an invaluable player for United and right now they are favourites for the title. 

Really? They are nowhere near good enough to be considered favorites., even factoring in Jose's second season record.

16 hours ago, Spiller86 said:

Conte essentially saying in his presser the decision to sell Matic was the club's not his.

Vaishali Bhardwaj

 

@VaiBhardwaj

Conte is now asked about why he sold Nemanja Matic to Manchester Unitd. He simply says: "You must ask the club about this." #CFC #MUFC

12:46 AM - Aug 5, 2017

Can see why footballers prefer the relative anonimity of London to Manchester, now Nemanja has to deal with the press chasinig his wife and kid around town with cameras.

On 8/3/2017 at 09:39, wallosh said:

Regardless, he is not even close to the top 10 best DM in the world.

He doesn't need to be for them. They're good enough around him they wont need him to put in 8/10 performances every week. 

On 8/4/2017 at 03:00, ivorycoast said:

I still haven't seen the exact reason why Matic wanted to leave the club. The papers are saying it's because he wanted to get back with Mourinho, but I thought he had more of a connection to the club rather than Mourinho. I'm thinking that he had a falling out with Conte. If that's true that shows poor man management, Conte could've told Matic to keep fighting for his place to keep the squad strong. 

I think he is going to prove to be an invaluable player for United and right now they are favourites for the title. 

I agree about how important he'll be to them. However I don't think he had a falling out with Conte, rather he just isn't good enough to play in a 2 and his chances would be reduced unless we plan on playing with 3 in central midfield.

The Jose angle I think is partly true, I'm sure he'd love to play for a familiar manager but he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to agitate for a move. 

Matic looked good last night, have the board sold the title to united

How was he good? The player he was directly responsible for in Isco completely random the game, he tore utd to pieces and he was Matic's responsibility. There's a narrative being pushed here about matic, he really wasn't good last night, and I say that as someone who didn't want us to sell him.

3 hours ago, Brutos said:

Matic looked good last night, have the board sold the title to united

I'm sure they checked his bags before he left. Hard thing to smuggle out